To be fair, this is an absolutely terrible metric and the author has been dragged for a week for it. Not sure why it keeps getting reposted.
to be fair, Rutgers doesn’t pull shit of the nyc market which was the original point. I’d be surprised if they are even in the top half of the B10 for nyc eyeballs for college football games
Doesn’t directly equate to ratings, but this was from when we were in the depths of the Chris ash era and we were still number one in the poll: https://knoji.com/article/10-most-popular-college-football-teams-in-new-york-city/
A lot of the 2014 expansion money came from the mandatory addition of the B1G network to basic cable packages. In the Baltimore metro area every basic cable/satellite package increased by $5 and you could not opt out. I don't what it was for DC but I imagine that PG and Montgomery County residents faced the same increase. It would be interesting to see how this affected the NY metro even if it was just the surrounding NJ residents.
It was about exploiting their existing contracts with cable carriers to extract more money from residents of NY/NJ. That’s it. That’s why Rutgers was added.
You don’t need much to establish a party school. Low academic standards and proximity to some bars will do the trick
Change the age and add a deragatory word in there, and I get very TMB circa-2009 vibes from this post
This data is from 2015-2019, which I specifically carved out as historically bad, even for Rutgers. Look at data prior to this period when RU was either good to mediocre and it’s a different story. I barely went to or watched games from 2015-2019, and I’m not a casual. Boomers constitute the second largest age category in the country. Most of them have yet to cut the cord. Carriage fees are still a very real part of the equation.
Lucky? Fuck yea- I’d even venture to say luckier than the timing of Joe Pa’s death (may he rest in piss) At the time RU was admitted, cable was king (it still is it’s just not as large a gap) and RU brought those carriage fees. But I’m sure you guys know better than Delaney
Rutgers has been involved in all five of the all-time top-rated football games in New York City on ESPN2 and been part of four of the five all-time highest-rated football games in the New York City area on ESPN. A New York Times study of the 210 television markets found New York has about 3 million college football fans, and 20.9% of those chose Rutgers as their favorite team. That's almost equal to those naming Notre Dame (9.2%), Penn State (6.4) and Connecticut (5.2) combined
Him stanning buttgers instead of shitting on every other team is where he went wrong Go to the soccer forum to see how it’s done lad
Really looking forward to the Texas meltdown when y’all are in the sec and no one gives a fuck what your administration wants
UNC/NC State playing for absolutely nothing last year did 2.7 million viewers on ESPN on a Friday night, which is either 4.5x the number of Rutgers fans in New York City or about 15x the number of viewers Rutgers/Maryland had the next day at noon.
Watching Texas fall on their faces year after year is the one thing that can unite the Colorado and Nebraska fan bases. We have to enjoy the little things with how much our programs continually step on their own dicks.
I honestly think the “market” argument is pretty dated and not that relevant. There’s tons of factors that are weighed for a cfb brand. That said.. I’ve lived all over nyc for almost 15 years, I go out and watch games basically every Saturday during that.. and I can’t recall a single person asking for a Rutgers game to be put on or meeting Rutgers fans of any kind. There’s zero presence albeit in a city that isn’t super cfb-y compared to how horny everyone is on sundays for nfl. Imo the games that fill the bars and you encounter most in nyc is Penn state and Michigan by a mile.. you’ll see some notre dame too. Not sure after that
As Nielsen ratings continue to be exposed for what they are (ie. really shitty proxy metrics), the national media markets they created also matter less and less. There’s an easier way to measure audience reach and viewership with the advent of streaming, and those means aren’t geo-centric or biased at all. A user watching in Idaho is just as important as a user watching in NYC, and the new metrics properly track that. Ipso facto, you’ll be hearing way less about particular media markets moving forward and more about pure viewership numbers that are now more easily tracked and far more accurate than what Nielsen ever provided.
Seems each league has different things they need. B1G needs markets because of their network and SEC needs to get fanbases that will buy ESPN+
Listen fuckfaces- we are NYC’s team, our dicks are bigger (well not mine specifically but I blame that on marriage) and I have a grill to prep, thus don’t have time to explain why fans in NYC matter more than ones in whatever backwater your schools crawled out of. In Schiano man we trust. We B1G and we ain’t going nowhere. Joe Pa knew and probably watched.
Rutgers in the B1G is just a ghost of a long gone past where market size mattered instead of fanbase and matchup quality. They were only brought in so cable providers in NY and NJ would have to buy BTN. That’s rapidly going away and yes if they decide to kick teams out they will kick out Rutgers the things a conference should want in 2022 are 1) name brands 2) dedicated fanbases 3) football competitiveness Rutgers is none of those things people watch their teams and then they watch good games, that’s it
Rutgers was in the right place at the right time. If they were on the outside now they wouldn’t be getting an invite. They got lucky — simple as that.