Better strap up. Realignment could be getting very serious very quickly.

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  1. TC

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    It's all about running to super teams these days. I blame LeBron.
     
  2. Jimmy the Saint

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    Yeah the old blue chip ratio is pretty outdated at this point. It's closer to being 60-70% than it is 50%.
     
  3. The Banks

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    At the same time, NIL has allowed largely irrelevant schools like Jackson State, Miami, Louisville, A&M, Tennessee, Michigan State, etc to recruit at levels where they can poach recruits from some of the Alabamas and Ohio States of the world.
     
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  4. The Banks

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    Doesn’t help that there are almost 400 4* now.
     
  5. TC

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    Sounds like someone wants equality of outcome, not equality of opportunity!
     
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  6. Odin

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    im drawn to college football because my hometown didnt have an nfl team.

    each week of the college regular season has never been meaningful.
     
  7. Saul Shabazz

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    not since Cooper
     
  8. PSU12

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    Last season was arguably the craziest one since ‘07 and we ended with an Alabama / Georgia final. It’s just what CFB is in the playoff era and the gap widens at the top every season. I feel extremely confident saying PSU will never win a national title again in our history and could say the same for about 25 other schools that are our peers. You recruit in the top ~3 every year and have the talent to compete or you don’t and can’t compete at the top.
     
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  9. Jimmy the Saint

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    Why do you say that? We just need to hit the magic button and we will be OSU.
     
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  10. Deuce

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    Clearly didn’t watch Alabama from 1993-2007
     
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  11. Jimmy the Saint

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    The 17 years without a national title must have been very difficult. I'm sorry you had to go through that.
     
  12. Corch

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    Trying to frame Penn State as a "have not" is a new level of sandbagging.

    Penn State has every resource they need to be successful at the highest level, that doesn't guarantee the program will operate at the highest level, which isn't a systemic issue that you initially referenced.
     
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  13. bro

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    ND should be target #1, but they need to add more west coast teams. I would be in favor of this.
     
  14. gowolverines8

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    Yep rankings are just so good, with the ease of film and travel, camps, all the sites etc. theres no secrets anymore. Also not some hidden development way like Nebraska had by having a substantially better strength and conditioning program than everyone.
     
  15. herb.burdette

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    In 2021, you were tied with us in the third quarter and down only three as we entered the fourth quarter, in Columbus.

    Since 2016, OSU is 5-1, but our largest margin is 13 and we needed absolute miracles to win 2017 and 2018, literally two of the greatest fourth quarter comebacks in the last 20 years.

    This whole, we can’t compete thing is ridiculous.
     
  16. GoodForAnother

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    PSU can definitely compete for playoff spots, the problem with the sport is they’re one of maybe 20 or so programs that can
     
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  17. Jimmy the Saint

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    The gap between getting a play off spot and winning it is an another enormous leap. It's pretty much agreed upon that expanding the play off would have benefitted us as much as any other program (I think Florida was right there too). Would have most likely been in every year 2016-19 in a 12-team field.
     
  18. steamengine

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    It’s wild that the fan bases of the two biggest anomalies in the sport in terms of consistent success want the rich to get richer!
     
  19. Odin

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    just for fun i wanted to know how many programs would have made the playoffs if we started with 16 and no auto bids. its 48, 29 of which had multiple appearances.

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  20. Jimmy the Saint

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    Look at all that inclusion, so bad for the sport.
     
  21. Constant

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    Interesting look. Is one of the Arizonas AZ St?
     
  22. Odin

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    no, just a dupe. corrected. ty.
     
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  23. PSU12

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    We can make a playoff but we can never win one. As was mentioned prior the blue chip ratio has never been more lopsided. I agree about 20 or so programs can make a playoff, but I’d say even that group is dwindling as the years go by. PSU’s program ceiling is a playoff berth. “Top 10 recruiting classes” don’t mean as much at number 10 as they used to due to the consolidation at the top. You need to have multiple top 3 or 4 classes to really compete for a title these days. Does NIL or an expanded playoff reverse that a little bit? Hopefully but I have my doubts and think it might be too far gone at this point.

    feel like we have seen this play out in the playoff numerous years with round 1 blowouts seemingly every year of the teams that have the every year top 3 recruiting classes blowing out the teams that recruit well, but not that well (ND, Michigan, MSU, Washington, Oklahoma etc etc). More often than not if OSU has a down year, the B1G representative in a playoff against those teams is going to get shelled just on a pure talent disadvantage. Everyone else in college football still operates as up and down as normal save those 3-4 super teams that recruit top 3-4 every year. CFB has always historically had dynasties, but they have never been this consistent or lasted this long historically.
     
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  24. WC

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    well this is depressing
     
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  25. Shiggityshwo

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    the satisfaction was real over here though
     
  26. GoodForAnother

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    that doesn’t sound fun at all, we should just stick with 4 and an arbitrary process designed to pick the same four teams every year no matter what
     
  27. Odin

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    nah, we should go back to having no playoff and crowning champs based on what your magazine of choice thinks
     
  28. Constant

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    As an AZ alum, I was astonished to see even one theoretical appearance.
     
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  29. GunsUpDump

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  30. Owsley

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    Not gonna lie, being part of a super team fan base is awesome :mulletsmug:
     
  31. VaxRule

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    This, but not ironically.

    Championships have always been a lie.
     
  32. OHW

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    You heard it here, folks. Michigan officially renounces any and all claims to the 1997 national championship. Nebraska now the eternal 1997 national championships of the world
     
  33. theregionsitter

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    From The Athletic in regards to ND tv deal, reminder ND gets roughly $20 million from the ACC as well


    What is a reasonable amount of money per year for Notre Dame to get for its broadcasting rights? Yes, it is a solo school, but it is also one of the biggest brands in college sports with the widest national audience.

    Christopher D.

    When there was a report a couple of weeks back about Notre Dame seeking $75 million per year from NBC on its next contract (the current one is up after 2025), my first reaction was uncontrollable laughter. How could one school with seven games of inventory command more than triple the revenue from a broadcast partner when the quality of its inventory has not changed?

    Then reports started to come out about the valuation of the Big Ten’s new media rights contract, with CBS willing to pay a reported $350 million for 13 or 14 games that are either the second or third choices in the Big Ten schedule. That means you’re not getting Ohio State-Michigan or Penn State-Ohio State or Michigan-Michigan State. Here are the second-best-rated Big Ten games from each week of last season, with total viewers in millions. (Week 3 was a strange one because most Big Ten teams were on the road.)

    Week 1: Penn State-Wisconsin (5.4)
    Week 2: Washington-Michigan (4.7)
    Week 3: Tulsa-Ohio State (1.8)
    Week 4: Rutgers-Michigan (2.8)
    Week 5: Indiana-Penn State (4.0)
    Week 6: Michigan-Nebraska (4.6)
    Week 7: Michigan State-Indiana (1.3)
    Week 8: Ohio State-Indiana (3.3)
    Week 9: Penn State-Ohio State (7.1)
    Week 10 Michigan State-Purdue (4.4)
    Week 11: Purdue-Ohio State (4.7)
    Week 12: Nebraska-Wisconsin (3.5)
    Week 13: Wisconsin-Minnesota (5.0)

    Head-to-head, the viewership for Notre Dame games holds up nicely in September while the Big Ten is playing through nonconference schedules. But once the conference season begins, the second-best Big Ten game drew a bigger audience than Notre Dame every week, often by a wide margin. Even Ohio State-Indiana did better than Notre Dame-USC in Week 8. And Penn State-Ohio State almost tripled the audience for Notre Dame-North Carolina. Indiana-Penn State got about the same audience as Notre Dame-Cincinnati. And yes, you could easily make the argument that Notre Dame’s viewership is being dragged down by ACC competition.

    But here’s my point. If you halve the $350 million figure because we’re only talking about Notre Dame’s home schedule, you’re down to $175 million. Then you’d need to adjust further downward because Notre Dame’s home schedule doesn’t draw like the Big Ten’s second-best game. So let’s halve that figure again. Now you’re at $87.5 million.

    Suddenly, that initial $75 million report feels more reasonable



    ND gets $75+ they easily stay independent that’s $100 mil a year to stay the course
     
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  34. VaxRule

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    What kind of $95 million >>> $350 million garbage is this?
     
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  35. Blu Tang Clan

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    I’m really happy for you, or sorry that happened.
     
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  36. theregionsitter

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    it’s not, but for ND to stay independent- $95 million a year would easily keep them independent since I believe that would give them more tv revenue than all but 16 schools nationwide until about 2030 when the SEC deal would limp ahead of ND
     
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  37. PSU12

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    It will be nice to have ND games as the pregame fluff content for the B1G primetime slot
     
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  38. theregionsitter

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    the traditional 2:30PM EST ND Game would time out pretty well for this
     
  39. Taques

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  42. Taques

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    does this person really want me to believe that syracuse football has a top 15 fanbase
     
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  43. Jimmy the Saint

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    Bama too low
     
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    wisky top ten???

    :yaoface:
     
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  46. Fran Tarkenton

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    just missing a Syracuse j-school jab

     
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  49. DeToxRox

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    The Regent that goes by the name Rutgers(c)Al
     
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  50. Jimmy the Saint

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    Dropping to D3 will certainly make paying off their stadium renovations (again, until 2112) rather interesting.
     
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