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  1. Daniel Ocean

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    I have no idea how you got that from what I wrote. I really need to know how you came to this conclusion.
     
  2. AIOLICOCK

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    I don't understand your question, I may have misread the article idk
     
  3. dblplay1212

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    Idk how else to read it when you say you're in favor of home ownership going down. Home ownership going down means renting goes up.
     
  4. dblplay1212

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    I've engaged every point. Supply is the biggest issue and needs to be addressed but doing so in a way that makes ownership impossible isn't a net positive imo.
     
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  5. NCHusker

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    Not really. It's not a discussion when you just keep repeating your position over and over. We get it.

    For example, Lyrtch posted several times about driving down the profitability of being a landlord. Your response every time was just about oligarchs owning all the property. Not a substantive response to what his point was, just you repeatedly pounding the table.

    I'm not well versed enough in this issue to have a strong opinion but your rhetorical tactics are fucking annoying sometimes
     
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  6. Lyrtch

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    supply goes up costs go down

    if costs go down housing is more affordable, less homeless, you're choosing some weird side argument to discount the very clear former argument
     
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  7. Duck70

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    Team France
     
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  8. dblplay1212

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    That's good!

    Most being forced to rent is bad. Why are you ignoring that side?

    I'm in favor of more affordable housing while also making ownership possible.
     
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  9. southlick

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  10. Lyrtch

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    i don't think renting is inherently bad. i don't think homeownership is inherently good.

    lower costs will also obviously lower the barrier to homeownership, so it even fits your weird framework
     
  11. kennypowers

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    Quite the melty
     
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  12. Daniel Ocean

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    maybe read and post the whole quote and not just the first sentence.

    this doesn’t say anything about home ownership or renting. It simply says we need to have more affordable housing regardless of it being rental or ownership.
     
  13. chuckmasterflex

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  14. BellottiBold

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    Good.

    Now somebody set him up with body guards.
     
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  15. Beeds07

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    The prosperity part is so true. On this shit smaller town I live in, the middle class is being phased out of the housing market. Housing prices have gone up 40/50% while wages of course remain stagnant. How can a group who have essentially been making pretty much the same the last 20 years buy when houses are basically only a well off persons game?
     
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  16. BellottiBold

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    EXPAND THE FUCKING COURT NOW.
     
  17. BudKilmer

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    Any Comey Barrett can’t wait to do some partisan hate mongering and I’m sure Breyer is texting with Chuck Todd right now about a media tour
     
  18. Doc Louis

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    I read that as him not verbalizing that it's not just more housing but more "starter housing", because companies don't want to build and sell at that price range since they would all rather build and sell homes at, say 700k instead of 100k-250k or whatever cheap first homes used to be priced at.
     
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  19. Pile Driving Miss Daisy

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    $12.24 an hour is pathetic given how insanely hard the job is. Our daughter's daycare must pay better since they've had very little staff turnover (only ~30 kids in the whole school). There's no way on hell I'd try to manage toddlers for 40 hours a week for less than a $50,000 salary.

     
  20. steamengine

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    That’s metal as hell
     
  21. pez

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  22. Josey Wales

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    Abbott murders ppl and then all but ends women’s ability to have safe abortions.

    Hopefully, ppl can get past Beto being a dork that curses and skateboards.
     
  23. THEBLUERAIDER

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    My mom was a teacher’s assistant in a special ed classroom for her whole career. She never made over $10,000 in a year. Ridiculous.
     
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  24. Sub-Zero

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    I didn't realize how little daycare teachers made until the director of ours said in an email that unemployment or something was affecting them. Then we remember they are private businesses and of course.

    I think their issue was on the secondary/floating teachers though and not the main one per classroom. But still I always assumed it was a better paying job than it is. Especially with how much it costs each family.
     
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  25. Name P. Redacted

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    My former daycare is owned by a private equity firm.
     
  26. dblplay1212

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    Yea we pay $275 per week and there's 12 kids in a class. That's $3300 for a class every week. That's $171k for a class for a year. 10 classes so $1.7m per year. Each class has 2 teachers. I'm sure their insurance has to be through the roof and they handle breakfast and lunch so there's those costs but still. Seems like $171k per class would be enough to pay each teacher $50k and have $71k leftover to pay for the other stuff. It's a franchise so I guess they have fees there too.
     
  27. Sub-Zero

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    Yeah similar enough to ours. Maybe a couple more kids per class but some are part time 2/3 days a week kids who pay less accordingly. But yeah smilialr enough thoughts.
     
  28. beerme

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    You forgot rent… but also forgot those classes are 3 hours, they can each teach two a day, so you’ve got a lot of money in there
     
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  29. dblplay1212

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    Na hers is all day. I think early drop-off is 7am and Kate pickup is 6pm. G is normally like 9-3 though. It's actual pre-school, not just daycare. They started doing alphabet and counting at 2 years. She's 3 and can add anything up to 5+5. Granted she's counting fingers but damn she's 3. I don't mind the cost, it's been well worth it. She's much more advanced verbally than most kids her age and that will help her going forward.
     
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  30. beerme

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    Gotcha. Yeah that’s not crazy anyway price wise. I’m fortunate there’s a high quality non profit community preschool our town so I’m paying 5500 for 3 days a week. Our other option was Montessori 4 days/week 3 hours was 16000
     
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  31. fucktx

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    one L wasn’t enough for this guy
     
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  32. chuckmasterflex

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    Yeah and it is real fucking annoying
     
  33. Bo Pelinis

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    Daycares and preschools pay dick which is why most of them are bad with turnover problems. This is why preschool has to be public and childcare has to be universal. The market is a failure and it hurts the smallest and poorest among us.
     
  34. Josey Wales

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    Moderates suck. We all know which pols we’re talking about. What are “cultural issues” vs. “material hardships” in this context?

    Because 2018 saw a larger wave of women and progressives and they keyed on healthcare and Trump and the Nazis made it about immigration too. It worked out well.
     
  35. kennypowers

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    Many of them are associated with churches (like ours) that don’t charge rent. I think the daycare is responsible for upkeep however. Of course the church is not taxed as we know…and additionally in Arizona you can choose where a portion of your tax dollars go. Including to individual schools or churches. Our daycare pushes hard for this and claims they use it for “scholarships” for their pre-k students in need, but in reality it likely goes to bonuses for the admins. There is of course no accountability or reporting on where that money goes.

    Childcare may be more broken than healthcare in this country, and that’s saying a hell of a lot.
     
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  36. steamengine

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    From Twitter it sounds like the senate parliamentarian did something shitty again that will screw over immigrants
     
  37. beerleagueman

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    screwing w Dreamers emotions every few months
     
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  38. BudKilmer

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    Post 9/11 brain rot was unlike anything I’ve ever seen

     
  39. Jay Jay Okocha

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    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-58619393.amp

     
  40. BudKilmer

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  41. chuckmasterflex

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    You're asking a hell of a lot for Americans to have the bandwidth to follow along a story about a Chinese property development company going bust. I mean, my fucking God.
     
  42. Bruce Wayne

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    I'm well aware of what this means and the repercussions at stake here, but could someone please explain it for some of our less educated posters?
     
  43. skiedfrillet

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    can we go back to the housing discussion
     
  44. chuckmasterflex

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    Here is a thread. Basically, Chinese real estate company is insolvent. It crashing would tank the Asian markets and so and so-forth
     
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  45. dblplay1212

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    https://www.bbc.com/news/business-58579833
     
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  46. steamengine

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    Socialize the losses! Socialize the losses!
     
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  47. IV

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    Capitalism when we win, socialism when we lose, eh comrade? Eh, eh?
     
  48. Bo Pelinis

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    It's almost like in practice nearly every economic system is gamed to favor the few while fucking over the many.
     
  49. IV

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    I mean things are better than ever, no thanks to the R’s that want to be tread on so bad

    huge fan of child labor laws and what not
     
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