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So where you guys think they're going to cut storm of swords now that it's official that it will be broken into 2 seasons? Red wedding is like 3/4 of the way through the book isn't it?
it's about 2/3 i think, but they could easily manipulate what you know from different storylines to hit that point
I think it'll be the Red Wedding. It's such a huge event it belongs at the end of a season instead of some middle episode. People will be pissed, but they'll be hooked by then and will come back.
Red Wedding will be the 9th episode. they won't end the season on that, just like they didn't end last season chopping off Ned's head.
man there will be some unprecedented tv rioting if they end the first half of season 3 with the red wedding
What about with Dany and the wall? Maybe when she acquires the Unsullied, and when the wildlings cross the wall or when Jon heads back to Castle Black?
I could see them doing that, but they couldn't end episode 10 with Ned's beheading as the book doesn't end with that. If they were telling the story of GoT in season 1, Ned's beheading happened when it was supposed to. With season 3 they're making an arbitrary cut and it doesn't matter what happens after the big event. Something like the Red Wedding is such a classic season ending event that it may be too hard to pass up.
It's pretty sad but I still get legitimately pissed when I think about the Red Wedding. Fucking Freys
I was just thinking. If they don't think showfags could tell the difference between Asha and Osha, how in the hell are they going to be able to keep up with all the Walders. I guess they just aren't going to introduce many of them at all. I remember having to reread certain parts just to be certain on which Freys they were talking about.
Yeah your probably right but I would assume they would introduce a few of them before the Red Wedding.
He's there for sure. Arya, Gendry, and Hot Pie all split at the end when Arya is Roose's handmaiden/whatever title it is.
They're really going to have to rush Arya's story in these next 8 episodes. they still have the fight at the God's Eye, their time alone before they are captured, her time in Gregor's camp with all the tortures, her time with Wease and the Jaqen H'ghar story, Weasel soup, and then her time with Bolton and her escape.
Don't think they will have to to rush it too much. 8 episodes is plenty of time for all of that as long as they don't completely neglect her storyline for a few episodes.
If they're not going to be in it how will they explain Theon claiming to kill Bran and Rickon without their bodies as "proof?" They'd really be fucking with Brans storyline if they cut out the Walders and the Reeds
You talking about big and little walder? They weren't cast. The reeds weren't either. The thought on the walders is that they've been cut. The Reeds part of the winterfell story could stretch into season 3.
that is not how I interpreted his statement. If they haven't cast the Walders, who confirms Theon and Ramsay's claim to Robb that Theon burnt Winterfell along with killing Bran and Rickon.
I was referring to all the fucking Walder's, and Freys in general. I can't imagine they would get thru the Red Wedding without introducing a few of them other than the old guy.
fuck the frey's. they all suck and i don't care about them and neither would the rest of the tv people.
I know Faceless Men arent supposed to kill due to anger or kill those they know but I hope Arya gets all the training and then comes back and just starts running shit as a trained killer and warging into Nymeria.
UPDATE: Some more pertinent quotes from David and Dan that fit the discussion and the topic of this post really well have surfaced. First, this one from a good interview posted on Westeros.org: I don’t think anyone else asks viewers to process so many storylines and characters. And also one thing to keep in mind is that there are characters in the second book who don’t appear this season, but are coming in later. It’s just about so many new characters introduced in the second season, so we saved some for the next season. They aren’t being omitted, they’re just being delayed.Second, the amazing Mo Ryan already has some answers from Dan Weiss that are on everyone’s mind (make sure to read the whole piece, and mind that there is a full interview coming next week after episode three): I would say that, going forward, 10-episode seasons are really all that are possible, given our 12-month [production] cycle,” Weiss said. “For this show specifically, it’s really all we can do to do 10 of them in a year. I would say not to expect more than 10 a season any time in the near future … We had always planned on a 10-episode season [for the show's third year]. We’ve always said that we see the show as an adaptation of George’s series, not this book or that book. It’s definitely true that ‘A Storm of Swords’ is too big to even come close to fitting in one season. [...] Book 3 is definitely too much for a 10-episode season, so we’re taking the long view of the series of the whole, and trying to do as much justice as possible to George’s overall epic story and be as true to the spirit as we can, while keeping it an exciting and viable and vivid as a television show that stands on its own two legs. A season of television needs to feel like a season of television. We have so many storylines to juggle, and they all need to ideally have a sense of a beginning, middle and end over the course of a season. Each character needs to feel like they’re traveling a specific road in the course of a season, and coming out as a different person than they went in. It’s never going to be about taking a book and ripping it in half — ‘At page 673, this is the place where [the season] ends.’ It comes down to case-by-case [decisions] with each story and how best to serve each character’s story going forward.
Makes me think seasons 5 and 6 will combine books 4 and 5 and do them chronologically. A lot of people would be pissed and may stop watching if they skip most of the popular characters for a year.
I know this was an issue before but I'm really wondering how they're going to handle the Bran and Arya storylines over the years as the kids get older. They've barely shown Rickon and they made the other kids older so that solves those problems but at the end of Book 5 Arya is still a young girl and Bran is still a kid as well. They made Gendry look like a grown man already and it appears they ommitted Shereen Baratheon (sp?)
How old is Arya in the show? I just read she's 15 in real life, looks younger than that. How old is she in the books these days? 13?
so the name of this episode is "what is dead may never die". didn't aeron damphair say that in the book?
isn't that just a prayer or saying for their religion? i thought balon said that to theon when he was talking about his brothers that got killed in the rebellion.