Browns Thread: America's Professional Football Team

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  1. 20/20/20/20

    20/20/20/20 something tasteful but not too bland
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    Yeah, Team Arians.
     
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  2. The_QCT

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    Coach A: 13 years
    Coach B: 12 years

    Wins (win%):
    Coach A: 125 (.618)
    Coach B: 118 (.618)

    Division Championships:
    Coach A: 6
    Coach B: 5

    Playoff Appearances:
    Coach A: 9
    Coach B: 7

    Conference Championships:
    Coach A: 1
    Coach B: 1

    Super Bowl Championships:
    Coach A: 1
    Coach B: 1

    Both coaches had generational QB’s

    One everybody would take...one everybody seems to not want. Which coach would you rather have?
     
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  3. Corch

    Corch Take my energy.
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    One's Sean Payton one is McCarthy.

    McCarthy doesn't have a creative bone in his body and the general feeling is that the Packers won in spite of him not because of him.
     
  4. The_QCT

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    You don’t have that type of longevity if a team is winning in spite of you.

    And although he’s talented, half his team and his own family thinks Aaron Rodgers is a douche bag asshole. I’m sure his lack of cooperation hasn’t helped.
     
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  5. Corch

    Corch Take my energy.
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    Kitchens showed more creativity in 8 weeks than McCarthy has in like ten years
     
  6. The_QCT

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    Whose to say McCarthy and Kitchens can’t coexist?

    FTR - McCarthy isn’t my first choice, but we would be fine with him as the hire IMO.
     
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  7. yaywaffles

    yaywaffles suck my flaps you piece of shit
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    i would be fine with mccarthy if we retained kitchens and he had full autonomy over the offense. i'm not sure that's how that would play out though

    the main thing for me is that, ultimately, we get dorsey's guy. whether that's kitchens, mccarthy, or whomever, i want it to be dorsey's choice. if it's haslam, or a compromise between haslam's faction and dorsey's, i'll be significantly more uneasy.
     
  8. TheGrifter

    TheGrifter It's a trick. Get an axe.

    I know NFL owners are super weird (as are most super rich people), but I just don’t understand Haslam here. Literally every decision Dorsey has made at this point has been beneficial to the franchise.

    Yet he somehow thinks he is better equipped to choose the man who is going to lead this team?

    There shouldn’t even be two “camps” right now. There should just be Dorsey telling Haslam who to hire and Haslam writing the checks.
     
  9. goheels10

    goheels10 Well-Known Member
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    I see the concern, but I deal with the two camp issue in the hiring process a lot. A lot of times it's a good thing, if your search committee is well structured
     
  10. Bruce Bowen

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    When you’re on your 5th coach in 7 years? And the the team has yet to post a winning record you should probably take a backseat to the guy who has proven he knows what the fuck he’s doing.
     
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  11. The_QCT

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    RE: McCarthy

    JaredKMueller 1941 posts
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    There is something to the McCarthy Jets rumors flying around. McCarthy is one of the top names on the list this coaching carousel and the Jets, after the Cardinals tried the same thing, don't want to be left out and have some high level of aggression going after the former Packers coach.

    While Dorsey has McCarthy on his list, he isn't planning to just jump at a HC before going through his process. For many folks, the Jets can be seen as a Top 3 job this offseason after the Browns and Packers due to Sam Darnold and Jamal Adams. For McCarthy, waiting for Dorsey and the Browns to POSSIBLY offer him the job is probably not worth it.

    If/when the Jets hire McCarthy, expect to hear "Dorsey really wasn't interested" and "that is why he allowed McCarthy to reschedule." Dorsey is interested and the rescheduling was a mutual respect decision.
     
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  12. goheels10

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    Nice little nugget. Seems like dorseys search crew is moving forward the way most successful committees do.
     
  13. Corch

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  14. The_QCT

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    FYI - I can’t find it now, but there was a post about not ruling out a trade for a coach...possibly Sean Peyton after the season. Doubt it happens, but interesting nonetheless.
     
  15. ButchCassidy

    ButchCassidy Still Champs of 2015
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    I’m also surprised there’s been no mention of Arians. He openly campaigned for the job while calling their games. Wonder why no interest from the Browns side.
     
  16. Corch

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    Matt Eberflus is the Colts DC and a popular candidate and I want to say he coached here under Mangini or Shurmur.

    He's also a Toledo native
     
  17. The_QCT

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    It’s been mentioned by the ‘insiders’ that they want a young coach to grow with Mayfield fit the next 10 years. Arians doesn’t fit that mold.
     
  18. The_QCT

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    Eberflus with Kitchens as OC interests me.
     
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  19. ButchCassidy

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    No, no he does not.
     
  20. 20/20/20/20

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    He fits the mold if he keeps Kitchens and grooms him to take over in a couple years.
     
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  21. Corch

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    Kitchens is going to be a head coach somewhere in 2020. Right now you're deciding if it's going to be here or not
     
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  22. The_QCT

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    I have a feeling this will be our guy with Dorsey attempting to pair him with Kitchens.

    EBERFLUS

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    Interview was said to be very strong
     
  23. HotMic

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    I like Eberflus a lot, but that still leaves us with only one year of Kitchens probably. Where do they go from there?
     
  24. Corch

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    It just feels like it's going to be Eberflus
     
  25. marcus

    marcus Sex with old ladies for money, and bear traps.
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    I’m fine with it
     
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  26. The_QCT

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    I’ll worry about that if/when we cross that bridge. If we go to the playoffs next year, we’ll have our pick of OC to pair with Baker if Kitchens leaves.
     
  27. The_QCT

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    BTW...here are the folks on the search committee

     
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  28. marcus

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    Fuck the bears:

     
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  29. HotMic

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    Thought Hightower would be on that list.
     
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  30. The_QCT

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    Have Been Told.....

    ADKINSra 6569 posts
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    If something doesn't become clear regarding the future of OC Freddie Kitchens relatively soon, it become dicey for him staying willingly with the ORG
     
  31. HotMic

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    Lane throws a lot of BS at the wall. It’s hard to know what’s factual and what’s him speculating.
     
  32. goheels10

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    i get this, just don't understand why he hasn't had his interview yet. I'm sure he could have easily scheduled it by now.
     
  33. The_QCT

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    This week
     
  34. Bruce Bowen

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    Was this Kitchens first time ever calling plays?
     
  35. The_QCT

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    Yes. First time as an OC.
     
  36. goheels10

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    hope so.

    part of me wonders if he lands in tampa with arians
     
  37. Bruce Bowen

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    8 games as OC and already a hot name for HC jobs. NFL is cray.
    Just saw this
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  38. goheels10

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    whoa. poor freddy. i would hate for him to go there and die. i understand wanting to take a HC job, but AZ is a graveyard.
     
  39. dahldennsull

    dahldennsull Living in the best state
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    a little easier to have that longevity with a team when your you have a top 3 QB, and the rest of your division is the Bears, Vikings and Lions...
     
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  40. The_QCT

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    Why Freddie's Interview Late/Last


    JaredKMueller 1954 posts
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    As many have wondered, me included, why Freddie Kitchen's interview was so late, maybe last, in the process I finally have ONE piece of information:

    Dorsey is aware that Kitchens hasn't interviewed for this level of position in the past and, out of respect for him, gave him as much time to prepare as possible because he could. Having Freddie in-house allowed him to complete that interview any time he wanted which gave Kitchens as much time as possible to prepare.

    Other young coaches without HC interview experience did get the same opportunity for a variety of reasons not limited to Dorsey wanting to see how they did on short notice and, for those coaching in the Playoffs, scheduling limitations.

    There may be other reasons but this is one of them. They could have just interviewed him the same day or around the time they interviewed Gregg.
     
  41. goheels10

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    That's awesome. Hope Freddy knocked it out
     
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  42. goheels10

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    So... Are we done with interviews? Or do we still have to interview the Colts OC?

    Also... Rumor that it's down to Eberfleus and Freddy.
     
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  43. Principal McVicker

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    I love that Clemson secondary. I'd be down with Mullen.
     
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  44. The_QCT

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    He’s most likely coming out. Probably going 1st round.
     
  45. HotMic

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    It’s really looking like Freddie is getting the job.
     
  46. Corch

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    Sounds like it's gonna be Kitchens.

    Would be in favor of keeping Williams if he's up to it.
     
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  47. HotMic

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  48. Corch

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    Has to be for OC, right?
     
  49. HotMic

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    I’d have to think so.
     
  50. Corch

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    I don't know if Freddie is the right guy long term but I think hiring him is the right move.

    I'd keep Gregg as DC if he's open to it.
     
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