Browns Thread: 'Twas fun while it lasted

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  1. The Fuck Lion

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    For me

    1. JOK (type of player needed in NFL back 7 today)

    2. Bateman (think he becomes an all pro and helps immensely when it is time to part ways with OBJ)

    3. Take best player available, prefer on D
     
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  2. 20/20/20/20

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    I assumed it was talking about Elijah Moore and was more on board with that than Rondale in round 1.
     
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  3. HotMic

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    Yes, I’m talking about Elijah Moore.

    I like Rondale, but those injuries are concerning at 26. Now if they go another position in the 1st, I definitely think he l’d be worth a second round pick.
     
  4. HotMic

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    This is actually pretty cool for AB

     
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  5. UKupNorth

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    If we are staying at 26, my defensive wish list if one of JOK (unfortunately, don't think he will be here at this pick), Collins, Rousseau (I like him more than most and it is hard to question his production). Don't want a CB/S here at 26 as I don't think any of them are justifiable at this pick (the top end CBs will be gone)

    If trading up, might as well go balls to the wall and go far enough up to get Parsons.

    WR give me Bateman at 26.
     
  6. Charles DeMar

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  7. The_QCT

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    I would take Rondale over Bateman all day long for our offense.
     
  8. The_QCT

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    I would take either over Bateman. Both have different skill sets than our current WR's and can stretch the field.
     
  9. UKupNorth

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    Again, I think you need to think long term if going WR. Rondale is essentially a 5-9 scatback. With OBJ and/or Landry leaving after next year, Bateman steps right in to one of their spots.

    Would rather put Kareem Hunt in the slot than waste a pick at 26 for Rondale Moore. Hard no for me.
     
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  10. The_QCT

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    Higgins will step in for Landry if we make that move. Bateman doesn't bring anything to the table that Higgins doesn't already possess. And lining up Higgins and Bateman puts us in a position in which we are lining up 2 of the same WR and still would have a problem stretching the field. Moore would give us a weapon with versatility much close to a Tyreke Hill than a scat back.
     
  11. The_QCT

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      Still hearing nothing that excludes Zaven Collins as an option for the Browns (previous note)
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      Hearing the Browns anticipate one of the big-four CBs could be available according to various scenarios they (browns) have worked through.
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      As of 1:30 pm EST, the Browns continue to circle-back and discuss player(s) and scenario(s)
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      Have been told there has been no discussion in dealing OBJ in a draft-day to this point.
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      Have been told selecting a WR in the draft will not change what the organization plans on doing at the position group in the 2021 season --- barring trade offer, injury, etc


     
  12. Corch

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    I would be very disappointed with Rondale Moore in the first.

    5'7 receivers just don't cut it
     
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  13. Corch

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    I don't know how a non top tier wr even gets on the field this year
     
  14. The_QCT

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      Signing John Johnson III and Grant Delpit returning from injury will not prohibit the Browns from selecting a Safety in the draft
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      On Asante Samuel Jr, "Have a feeling he is going earlier than you guys think."
     
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  15. Corch

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    Zaven Collins was my first love in the draft and I'd be thrilled with him
     
  16. HotMic

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    The Browns haven’t ruled out picking a player that plays offense or defense. They are still discussing taking a player tonight. They could stay put, trade up, or trade down.
     
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  17. The_QCT

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    Collins or JOK are my first loves and main wants.
     
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  18. CTownND

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    Drafting a player tonight may or may not be in the cards tonight for the Browns, who may or may not trade players on the roster *or draft picks* as they are looking to improve both the offense and defense this year. More as it develops.
     
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  19. UKupNorth

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    If we can stay at 26 and land one of them, that would be dream scenario in my eyes
     
  20. HotMic

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    JOK has distanced himself pretty far from everyone else in the dream scenario category for me.
     
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  21. SugarShaun

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    Nope. Don’t like that. Stop drafting defenders
     
  22. Voodoo

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    8 picks to go... who else would want Wu (JOK to the uninitiated)?
     
  23. Voodoo

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    Guess he could go to Washington
     
  24. Corch

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    Go get jok Phil
     
  25. HotMic

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    4 picks with JOK, Moore, Newsome and Ojulari still there

    [​IMG]
     
  26. HotMic

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  27. dukebuckeye

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  28. bigCUM

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    JOK and Newsome on the board
     
  29. dukebuckeye

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  30. phunkybuck

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    Yep either one and I’m happy. Would be less thrilled with Barmore.
     
  31. bigCUM

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    No Barmore please
     
  32. SugarShaun

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    Would’ve been fine trading down with all the options available but glad pick is in. Hope it’s one of those 2
     
  33. HotMic

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    Wanted JOK the most, but I’m really happy with the selection.
     
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  34. dukebuckeye

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    Wanted JOK but happy with Newsome.

    Get Greedy Williams ass out of Berea.
     
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    This is the year Greedy finally stays healthy!
     
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  36. CTownND

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    He seems like a fine late first round pick, but can’t say I’m not a little heart broken JOK fell to us and we didn’t take him. Especially if he goes to the Ravens

    I’m not sure how this guy from Kentucky went +10 picks over JOK
     
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  37. Corch

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    Preferred JOK but not mad about Newsome
     
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  38. HotMic

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    It’s so refreshing to have a FO that lets the board fall to them and doesn’t panic.
     
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  40. Corch

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    Offer 2.59, 3.89, 3.91 to go get JOK tomorrow and start planning the parade
     
  41. comrade static

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    no shit. Can’t believe he is still available. Go get him!
     
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  42. Corch

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    I'd be willing to part with our 2nd next year as well to make it happen.
     
  43. Corch

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    I'd seriously give Jax or NYJ whatever they want shy of our first next year to go get JOK.
     
  44. comrade static

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    I think you could possibly do this, swap 2nd rounders, give up the early 3 this year, and give up 3rd next year. Might have to mix in a 4th or 5th or both.

    I think 2nd round could be really wild, as a whole.

    Without a normal season and combine this year, I think teams are valuing picks next year higher than normal.
     
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  45. CTownND

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    I think its pretty evident this regime has run analytics suggesting LBs just aren't a priority, so I don't think we're going to do anything to try to get JOK, even if JAX is a great trade partner at the top of the round.
     
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  46. HotMic

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    SI grade:
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    Greg Newsome II
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    The fourth cornerback goes off the board at pick 26. Newsome has put together some fantastic tape through the course of his collegiate career. He can play man or zone coverage and has excellent movement skills. His upside is that of a number one cornerback. He still has some injury concerns, but when on the field, his tape is first-round worthy.

    Cleveland is no longer the laughing stock of the NFL. They are starting to make a lot of excellent picks. Newsome is a great value in the back half of the first round. The Browns need stability alongside Denzel Ward, and Newsome could be a great running mate. This team is putting itself in a position to win a super bowl.


    Yahoo grade:

    26) Cleveland Browns: CB Greg Newsome II, Northwestern – This is a coup for the Browns, nabbing a player whom many believed would've been gone before now. Newsome is a bulldog-caliber competitor, and a tremendous athlete. That secondary could be really strong now with Denzel Ward, Newsome, Grant Delpit and Greedy Williams all young and highly talented. Wanna stop the Bills and Chiefs? Beef up that secondary. Grade: A
     
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  47. comrade static

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    Not related to us, thank god, but what an awful pick by the jags at 25 to get Etienne. Woof.

    Don’t get me wrong, he’s really good. I am just in the camp that most RBs you can get in rounds 2-5, unless you get a guy like AD or Chubb. Jags have bigger needs than a rb.

    If they wanted a rb then get Rhamondre Stevenson in the 2-4 rounds.

    Also unrelated, what a shit show the packers are right now. Rodgers about to flip the bird and walk.
     
  48. Corch

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    I love that Newsome doesn't have to start right away but I bet he'll beat out greedy by the second preseason game
     
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  49. comrade static

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    not quite his position, but he has to be better then sendejo day 1. I’ll take that all damn day.
     
  50. TheGrifter

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    I like the Newsome pick, but now trade basically all the rest of the Browns picks to move up to get JOK. Can't believe he is still available.

    Newsome and JOK would be an absolute home run for this draft.
     
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