Browns Thread: 'Twas fun while it lasted

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  1. Corch

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    It's almost like TJ Carrie, Morgan Burnett, and Jermaine Whitehead shouldn't be major contributors to your defense
     
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  2. SugarShaun

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    Hey another drop and this one led to the losing pick. Great work guys
     
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  3. yaywaffles

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    our receivers are really good at spoon feeding INTs to defenders
     
  4. dallasdawg

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    jesus christ
     
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  5. tjsblue

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    Dude
     
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  6. Summa

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    Bad throw, bad drop, bad team.
     
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  7. HotMic

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    Fire Freddie. This team is a shell of last year with the same roster and 3 pro bowlers added.
     
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  8. Doyle McPoyle

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    That should have been caught, but Baker's accuracy has been trash this year.
     
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  9. yaywaffles

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    just fold the fucking franchise already.
     
  10. yaywaffles

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    fans throwing with more precision than baker today
     
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  11. dallasdawg

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    has there been any talk about him being injured? i’ve seen some stuff on the ou board stemming from that sack in the end zone against tenn
     
  12. SugarShaun

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    Haven’t heard anything outside of his hip today
     
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  13. Corch

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    He was trying to throw him way from the defender so he didn't get killed
     
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  14. Doyle McPoyle

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    I wouldn't be surprised. The ball doesn't seem to be coming out of his hand the same way this year. He seems like he has to put his whole body into some of his throws and it could be taking away from his accuracy. It doesn't seem as effortless when he throws this year.
     
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  15. Summa

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    Does Freddie make it through this season?
     
  16. dallasdawg

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    as someone that watched every throw for 3 years and almost every one last year, something has definitely been off. it’s like he can’t follow through
     
  17. TheGrifter

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    Kitchens is obviously in over his head. You have the bye week.

    Fire him tomorrow and bring in a competent HC.
     
  18. mal630

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    I followed along box score, I assume this was just a fucking awful loss in a winnable game.
     
  19. Todd Bonzales

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    My nine win hope seems to be dying quickly. Poop balls. Only got to see the first half and most of the good stuff because of my daughters’ volleyball game. Keeping up with The Score app was frustrating enough. Would’ve been throwing bricks through my window if I was home.
     
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  20. Doyle McPoyle

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    It was pretty much just the normal way we lose. Bad coaching, players playing bad, and getting fucked by the refs multiple times.
     
  21. yaywaffles

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    i don't know what firing him now would accomplish. it's not like there's anyone on staff that's gonna fix this. but yeah, pretty much all the markers of terrible coaching are here. terrible discipline, terrible tackling, turnovers. it's hard to think of a single area of the game where this team ever looks sharp. freddie is a playcaller, not a coach. this is looking like a lost season, but hell, what's one more amidst the infinite sea of sadness that is the browns experience
     
  22. Corch

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    Honestly, we're never going to be a competent franchise until someone with a functional brain buys the team, which probably will not happen in my lifetime.
     
  23. The_QCT

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    It accomplishes nothing positive at this stage.

    This game was less about coaching and more about the players dropping balls, not executing and the refs blowing call after call after call.
     
  24. Corch

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    Nah bro it was all about coaching. Freddie doesn't coach this team for situational football.

    The last 90 seconds of the first half were a prime example.
     
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  25. tjsblue

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    It is such a browns thing to do to have the players and the coaches fuck it up.
    Wait, that isn’t a Browns thing. We never have the talent.
     
  26. CTownND

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    I'm just baffled by the WRs hands. OBJ dropped two or three very catchable balls. Callaway the same. Landry had a bad one.

    Baker's accuracy wasn't great today, but he's getting actively hurt by his WRs out there.
     
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  27. yaywaffles

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    penalties, turnovers, drops, missed tackles, and general dumbassery is almost always a reflection of shitty coaching. which is why you almost never see good coaches field teams that do that stuff. Go back 20 years and you're not going to find a single Belichick-coached Patriots team that fucks up like this team. zero discipline. zero attention to detail. zero situational awareness. the margin of error in the NFL is simply too small for this degree of incompetence to be tenable. All we had to do to win today was not turn the ball over at the end of the first half. super fucking simple. settling for a FG gives us a 23-12 lead and we probably win the game. instead, interception and a 9 point swing. yeah, individual errors fall on the players, but when it's the same shit happening every week across every position group, it's a systemic problem. and if it's a systemic problem, it's coaching.
     
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  28. Corch

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    QB and overall talent were the problem for so long. There were some bad coaches in there too but not every one of them was a shit head. Talent is not the problem anymore.

    If you want to give him the rest of the year, fine. If you want to fire him now, fine. He's pretty clearly not the guy.

    The next guy has to be someone who's won as a head coach.

    I'd take Jason Garrett in a heartbeat. He'd be a massive upgrade and I think he could do really well without Jerry Jones.

    We'll probably hire McCarthy.
     
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  29. lfriend

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    Would seem like a disaster for John Dorsey to fire his first choice of HC after one year.
     
  30. Corch

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    It would be a bigger disaster to keep him and ruin this team for another year
     
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  31. yaywaffles

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    honestly, i'd take mccarthy in a second at this point. uninspiring hire sure, but at least he has a proven track record of competence.
     
  32. HotMic

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  33. theriner69er

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    I get blaming coaching for things, but I often see comments like this and don't fully understand how the coach plays a role in this. How does coaching change baker's accuracy? or a defender's ability to tackle? I can see scheme being bad, play calling being bad, but at this level a player does not generally change year to year in things like arm strength, tackling, discipline, etc

    Can we hire a head coach and make Freddie the OC again??
     
  34. yaywaffles

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    awe inspiring

    i'm not sure if it's more concerning that he thought this, or that he apparently wasn't embarrassed enough to at least lie about it after the fact.
     
  35. Pelican

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  36. HotMic

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  37. Corch

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    Doerschuk is usually pretty locked in.

    Hopefully he's right
     
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  38. dallasdawg

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    please be true
     
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  40. Corch

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    I would really prefer not to give up a first
     
  41. The_QCT

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    Browns fans love those draft picks.
     
  42. UKupNorth

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    Browns Traded C Austin Corbett to the Rams for an undisclosed draft pick.
     
  43. Corch

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    A first rounder is a lot for a 31 year old tackle who wants a new contract.

    I didn't say I wouldn't do it either.
     
  44. OhioHoo

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    You would think Washington wouldn’t have much leverage here. 3rd round pick, that can turn into a 2 if he plays 8 games, plus a couple of mid round picks.
     
  45. 20/20/20/20

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  46. HotMic

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    No way that’s true
     
  47. dallasdawg

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    that’s what an all pro LT is worth and i would take that deal in a heartbeat
     
  48. HotMic

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    If he was 25-27 I might agree.
     
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  49. theriner69er

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    I guess we have to trust Dorsey, but that does not seem like a good deal. I wonder how much competition there is for Williams, if we have to sweeten the deal to beat out some other teams.
     
  50. dallasdawg

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    elite left tackles play well into their 30's, so that's a plus

    he's also a sooner, so that's a plus plus :yousoright: