CHAMPS XVII

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  1. Clown Baby

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    Give this and give that. Have you even been following what’s going on? Saban told Craig Young that this is Mac’s year.
     
  2. Snakes

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    when did Craig say that?
     
  3. Clown Baby

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    Did you both to read any of the posts leading up to your comment or were you just itching to come in hot?
     
  4. Snakes

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    you're the one coming in hot. I just don't necessarily buy that Craig was told this was Mac's job and Bryce would have no shot.
     
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  5. Clown Baby

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    I don’t either. I’m the one who called BS
     
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  6. Snakes

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    ah gotya, okay then. I just thought your comparison to OLB was stupid.
     
  7. Clown Baby

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    It was illustrative to a point I’ve since forgotten because I was called away by your insubordination
     
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  8. The Blackfish

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    Since he tragically lost his penis shaft and his one testicle (was a conjoined twin with his brother and when they separated them his brother ended up with 3). He occasionally doubles up on his testosterone pills and can get really aggressive.
     
  9. i am a bammer

    i am a bammer Ben Eblen>Jamychal Green
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    I think Will Anderson could start at QB.
     
  10. gus_chiggins

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    Will lines up in shotgun and hands the ball off then proceeds to “sack” the mlb
     
  11. Clown Baby

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  12. southlick

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  13. Jake Barnes

    Jake Barnes Team Mac OG
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    I guess I have to say it; Mac catches way too much shit based on the pick-6s :twocents:

    He also threw for 340 yards and four TDs and led the offense to 45 points against what had been a mediocre Auburn offense all year. Picks or no, he did enough to win that game.
     
  14. Owsley

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    We also lost by 3...and he threw two pick-sixes. If he only throws one, we win, which is an absurd thing to say in and of itself.

    I think we can absolutely win a title with Mac at QB this season, but in no way should he be absolved of blame for losing the IB.
     
  15. Jake Barnes

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    None of it falls on the D?
     
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  16. Odin

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    yeah but we won many games last year despite the defense
     
  17. Owsley

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    We all knew the D was trash from the get go, and they didn’t do themselves many favors, but they held Auburn to 34 points and our offense scored 38, so at the end of the day who didn’t do their job?
     
  18. the Weimar Beer Belly

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    Bo Pix is fucking terrible. What a goddamn embarrassment that he was able to complete a forward pass against a Saban D. And that motherfucker should never have a W in his column against us.
     
  19. Jake Barnes

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    Fair. I just think the IB paints too grim a pic of Mac as a QB. He was no Tua, but he was fairly stellar as a starter outside of two bad throws at the wrong time.
     
  20. i am a bammer

    i am a bammer Ben Eblen>Jamychal Green
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    Outside of spotting the other team two touchdowns he was fine
    :booger:
     
  21. Owsley

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    Fairly or not, QBs are held to a different standard than any other position in sports. You may have the game of your life outside of two throws, but if those two throws cost your team the game and a chance at making the playoffs, you go from hero to goat quite quickly.
     
  22. i am a bammer

    i am a bammer Ben Eblen>Jamychal Green
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    You know who has never thrown a pick 6?

    Will Anderson
     
  23. Clown Baby

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    If Ruggs and Jeudy and the boys are so fast, why couldn’t they catch up to and tackle the defenders to whom Mac threw the ball directly?
     
  24. i am a bammer

    i am a bammer Ben Eblen>Jamychal Green
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    There's blame to go around, for sure.
     
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  25. i am a bammer

    i am a bammer Ben Eblen>Jamychal Green
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    When I poo pop and tinkle my britches, is it my fault I smell like shit, or is it my defensive coordinator's?
     
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  26. Tiffin

    Tiffin “Only time can give you mayonnaise.”
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    Really only one of those picks was Mac's fault, but yall aren't ready for that conversation
     
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  27. Whammy

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    I don't know if that's entirely true...he's made plenty of seniority starts IMO.

    Jalen over Tua
    Damien Harris over Josh Jacobs (should have been the bellcow)
    Yeldon over Henry
    Hootie Jones over Deionte Thompson
    Darren Lake over Daron Payne
    Denzell Devall / Dillon Lee over Tim Williams / Ryan Anderson

    Those are just off the top of my head....I think he will opt for a steady and consistent senior over a better player he may not trust as much
     
  28. DoubleDutchBus

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    Anything to fit the narrative, you know the backup QB is always the fan favorite.
     
  29. southlick

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  30. southlick

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  31. Whammy

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    1st horrendous throw, 2nd was a busted play...shouldn't have thrown it away but if Najee turns around it's different

    I declare his fault on both
     
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  32. Tiffin

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    The first one is bad. Pure nerves, sailed it.

    The second is a one route goal line passing play where the rusher came in unblocked and the receiver never turned his head to look for the ball.
     
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  33. southlick

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    Probably because it was a shitty throw
     
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  34. Tiffin

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    Would have had a look if someone didn't blow their blocking assignment.
     
  35. southlick

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    #37385 southlick, Sep 14, 2020
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  36. i am a bammer

    i am a bammer Ben Eblen>Jamychal Green
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    Tua would still be alive today if our honkey TEs could block
     
  37. Clown Baby

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    Not even half of these are accurate much less similar to Mac-Bryce
     
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  38. i am a bammer

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    The only one I kinda believe is Jalen over Tua.

    Don't forget Ty Perine sitting for Skyler Delong
     
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  39. Whammy

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    They’re literally all accurate. In all those cases, the subordinate was better than the starter.

    You could make an argument for Jalen / Tua (uniqueness of the QB position) and Lake/Payne (Payne came on at the end of the year, they were basically co-starters by then) but the rest are not really defensible IMO.
     
  40. DoubleDutchBus

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    Jalen had the locker room, but that dwindled through bowl practice.
     
  41. Whammy

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    Guys I’m surprised at the pushback I thought it was pretty well accepted Sabes opts for veterans over young guns to not fuck up their chances for the NFL.

    Some of those are not defensible, at all
     
  42. Clown Baby

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    No, you’re all recency bias because you’re judging the career as a whole versus what actually happened. Are you really saying Yeldon started ahead of true frosh Henry when he was coming off 1000 yards because of “seniority?” And you keep citing to Lake-Payne when Lake played in maybe 4 games that year.
     
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  43. Whammy

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    Junior Yeldon, Sophomore Henry (2014) actually. It was clear he was the better back.

    Same with Lee/Devall vs Williams/Anderson.

    Williams/Anderson were not new underclassmen and based on what they did in 2016 it’s hard to justify IMO.

    Lake was the starter at NG and played a lot so I’m not sure what you’re talking about. I will say Payne had kind of taken over primacy by the playoff
     
  44. Clown Baby

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    Yeah man, really a shame we weren’t able to get 20 combined TFL out of Anderson/Williams in the year where Saban made the bullheaded decision to play Dillon Lee. It’s almost like you don’t understand rotational depth. Why not throw Rashaan on your list because he sat behind Ragland and Reuben or Minkah bc he didn’t really start until the Georgia game? Let’s just cherry pick everything to make a demonstrably false point.
     
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  45. HtownTide

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    Im way late to this party it appears but I feel like way too much blame gets placed on Mac for the second pick 6. That was a classic Auburn luck play where the forces of ridiculous bullshit yet again aligned to cause the ball to bounce perfectly off Najee’s ass into their players arms, who wasnt even expecting the ball and had no defenders between him and 100 yards of green grass
     
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  46. Tommy Callahan

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    Running back I don’t really think it’s fair as it’s such a rotated position. Defense Saban isn’t gonna put someone out there who is gonna end up in the wrong spot or leave a guy wide open for a td
     
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  47. HtownTide

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    This post almost reads like you are saying our defense “did their jobs” by allowing 34 pts to Auburns incredibly mediocre offense, but surely you cant think thats a result that we should be happy with
     
  48. Clown Baby

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    Pete Golding and Mac are tearing us apart
     
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  49. Owsley

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    He absolutely should take blame for that because he never should’ve thrown the ball in the first place. Part of it was inexperience, but his wanton disregard for the ball in that situation is inexcusable. Not the time or situation to be playing hero ball.