CHAMPS XVIII

Discussion in 'The Mainboard' started by Scott Van Pelt, Mar 9, 2019.

  1. i am a bammer

    i am a bammer Ben Eblen>Jamychal Green
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    Sparks are flying folks, love is in the air
     
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  2. LeonardWashington

    LeonardWashington every year gon be our year
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    don't worry about it bud. avery wasn't what we all wanted but he improved the program significantly from what he inherited and got us some good players. if he wouldn't have totally quit on the program, maybe he would have had better results but that's what he did. the finalists were avery, prohm, and mike white...we did the best we could at the time, no ragrets
     
  3. jplaYa

    jplaYa CHAMPZY/SMOLTZY/CHELSEA
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    The Texas connection stood out immediately. Happy to hear he’s come and fit in well.
     
  4. i am a bammer

    i am a bammer Ben Eblen>Jamychal Green
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    Y'all gotta get some ships out there on the dang docks!

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  5. PrinceWimbley

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    And I’m already a fan of this Svoboda guy due to him rocking the old school logo hat.
     
  6. Z

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    If Koolaid isn’t absolutely awesome, it’s going to be the biggest letdown ever. My expectations for him are sky high.
     
  7. The Blackfish

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    So we have a Ziggy and a Svoboda?
     
  8. Z

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    But no DeLong! Hallelujah!!
     
  9. DoubleDutchBus

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    Dre Kirk 2.0?
     
  10. jplaYa

    jplaYa CHAMPZY/SMOLTZY/CHELSEA
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    Deserves more likes
     
  11. gus_chiggins

    gus_chiggins This carpet is overdue for a good moppin
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    [​IMG]
     
  12. southlick

    southlick "Better Than You"
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  13. Owsley

    Owsley My friends call me Bear
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    Paul Tyson is a literal mouth breather
     
  14. stric006

    stric006 Recovering Butter Beer addict
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    Nm
     
  15. stric006

    stric006 Recovering Butter Beer addict
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    Is Paul Tyson the new Tua? We just hate him for no reason.
     
  16. Menelaus

    Menelaus The Red-Haired King
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    I hope he’s as good as a 9 year NFL vet that’s made $50mil in career earnings
     
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  17. Joey Freshwater

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    Going Friday afternoon to get my first Pfizer microchip.
     
  18. RJF-GUMP

    RJF-GUMP Daubert Qualified in Cooler Thermodynamics
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    The Truth: Paul Tyson is the establishment white guy embraced by racists and dumbasses on BOL that think he should win the starting job because of his family name and because he's white. No one really has anything against the kid. Reasonable fans want all these kids to succeed. Do I think he's remotely close to as talented as Bryce Young? :roll:
     
  19. stric006

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    I haven't visited BOL in 2 years.
     
  20. RJF-GUMP

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    We haven't really had an offseason agenda because our basketball program sucked really bad but now that we're worth a shit we should probably put one together (this is subject to revision and I'll add to it as we go along) :

    (1) Bitch about Coleman not getting renovated
    (2) Nervously post about other head coaching vacancies and the prospect of Oats leaving
    (3) Review depth chart and talk about how awesome we're going to be
    (4) Laugh at LSU and Will Wade as the NCAA moves with tortoise speed towards cutting their nuts off
    (5) Laugh at Auburn fans that now measure their entire fandom on a perceived margin of superiority over Alabama in basketball that's not even true (see #4 which also applies to Auburn)
    (6) Bitch about how Coleman could be bulldozed and how the administrative offices could be moved elsewhere.
    (7) Discuss recruiting, how awesome we are at recruiting, and how ridiculous our roster is becoming.
     
  21. Z

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    Nimari Burnett commits at 2:00 today. Hopefully another good day.
     
  22. Sammy Meatballs

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    Things I have been correct on before everyone:

    1. Nate oats
    2. The need to launch cruise missiles at mobile
    3. Blake sims
     
  23. Kirk Fogg

    Kirk Fogg "Tell them what they've won Olmec!"
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    Kay Ivey must’ve pounded a Bud heavy before this press conference

     
  24. Crepeswithasmile

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    if you listen closely, you can almost hear Tall Boy playing in the background
     
  25. Whammy

    Whammy Look kids, Parliament!
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  26. grayton

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    About to get the first vaccine dose, and I feel like I’ve been watching the Damion Square, Rolando, and ‘09 LSU game hype videos on repeat. LET’S GO
     
  27. RJF-GUMP

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    If we land Burnett today, I'm going to be elated.
     
  28. Clown Baby

    Clown Baby So I go to the Coinstar and it’s not working
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    Hell yeah pimp
     
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  29. RJF-GUMP

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    We are increasingly in an era of "positionless" basketball but here is my attempt to separate out the "positions" on our roster for next year:

    -Seems like our 1 and 2 are interchangeable although I'd say JQ and JD Davidson are more 1s due to their ball handling ability than anyone else on the roster. However, both JQ and Davidson could be played as a 2 guard and we would want both of them on the floor as much as possible which means they will both be on the court simultaneously a decent bit.

    -Our 3-5 are also relatively interchangeable. Sometimes our wing/ 3 plays as a 4/5 on defense . For example, last year Herb Jones would be assigned to the opposing team's 4 or sometimes their 5 defensively. Additionally, sometimes our 3 will assume a 1-2 role on offense. Last year Herb Jones brought the ball up court quite often. Also, Primo who is 6'6 but listed as a guard on our roster would defend the opposing team's 3 or 4 but would play as a 2 on offense. Darius Miles is listed as a forward on our roster but would often bring the ball up court and would be a primary ball handler when he was in the game. Having said all that, I suppose this is our roster for next year , although a few spots are still fluid depending on commitments:

    PG/1: JQ and JD Davidson.

    2 Guard: Shack, Burnett (if we get him), Primo, Ellis

    Wing/ 3-Darius Miles. Not sure we have another guy that fits the Herb Jones /3 position. Maybe Gary but he serves as our big man or 4/5 more often than not.

    4/5-Gary,Bediako, KAH, Wilson, Gurley if we get him, Tchikou

    hopefully no Rojas
     
  30. RJF-GUMP

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    If that's our roster we'd have one of the best back courts in the nation and a pretty damn strong front court. Although we still wouldn't have an imposing 6'9+ big man. Bediako, Wilson, Gurley, and Tchikou are all lean. KAH would be our most imposing physical big. Gary is physical but at 6'6 he can't quite dominate the paint.
     
  31. Odin

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    eh, we dont need a physically imposing big because they generally cant run as well as the lean ones. gary may not be the best rim protector ever but he certainly dominates the offensive glass.
     
  32. RJF-GUMP

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    Disagree. See game v UCLA also see WKU. Michigan's bigs would've killed us. Same with Baylor.
     
  33. Owsley

    Owsley My friends call me Bear
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    We definitely need a physical presence down low for when games get mucked up come tourney time.
     
  34. Drown ‘Em

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    Cecil slyly doing Cecil things. Sounds a lot like his Bediako decision precursor.
     
  35. Odin

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    wku is a bad example because it was a different team then. evidence: anytime i quote posts from that night you always tell me it was a different team then.
    ucla is also a bad example because we outrebounded them even with gary being the only healthy big for most of the game. we didn't lose because of our bigs, we lost because we shot 25% from 3 and 44% from the line. that one guy got a few blocks but we shot 23/41 from two so he didnt really have THAT much impact.
    I won't even address the two theoreticals.

    our bigs were bruner who died, alex reese, james rojas, and a 6'6 guy. we don't need (or want) a luka garza type who takes 15 seconds to get down the floor, we just need to improve the situation within the system. which is certain to happen unless injuries hit again.

    the offensive identity is not suddenly going to change because we play a team with a good "traditional" big. and it shouldn't. it's literally always going to be drive and kick. no exceptions. bringing in guys who don't fit that instead of getting players better than james rojas who fit the system will hurt us in the long run.
     
  36. RJF-GUMP

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    We got dominated by a big man in the WKU game , no getting around that. I don't know if the result would've been any different if we played them 2 months later. I'm not saying we lost to UCLA because of our lack of a physical dominant big man, but it was definitely a contributing factor. We couldn't stop Riley and he was out physical'ing and dominating us inside. I don't' think we should change anything offensively but it definitely would help to have a 6'8+ physical 4/5 that could throw his weight around and play bully ball when we need to.
     
  37. Odin

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    riley had 10 points and 5 rebounds....

    the idea that anyone ever needs to play "bully ball" is a thing of the past.
     
  38. RJF-GUMP

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    Many of those 10 points came late in the game when we couldn't afford to be giving them up and we could do basically nothing to stop him.
     
  39. Odin

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    he didn't score in overtime
     
  40. RJF-GUMP

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    Again, he scored many of those 10 points when the game was on the line and they were huge contributing points to their win. We absolutely need a physical presence for when games get slowed down, mucked up, and we're forced into half court offenses. Also need someone that can counter an opposing team's 4/5 if they are a physically imposing player. You're just straight up wrong on this one. Sorry.
     
  41. Joey Freshwater

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    Coleman upgrades? Nah.


    7 ton elephant statues. :deerstandnotkneel:


    /drakememe
     
  42. Tiffin

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    Live elephant or gtfo
     
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  43. Tiffin

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    team Odin on this one. Lack of size didn't cost us bigly, and we're still upgrading our size either way.
     
  44. Odin

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    the game wouldnt have been on the line if we had shot better.

    i have a lot of respect for petty because of the complete 180 in level of effort but the guy was not a good shooter last year. shack was not a good shooter. herb was not a good shooter. when you have incredibly inefficient scores as 3 of your top 4 shot takers you arent going to play well against really good teams unless everyone is having a good night. getting better shooters in means it doesnt matter if our bigs can score. its not the offense. it wont be until oats is gone. you can think im wrong if you want but dont waste your time hoping to land one of those guys. just look at the transfer market, lot of traditional bigs out there but we are talking to the 6'8 190 guy
     
  45. Joey Freshwater

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    I’m not too concerned about having some beefy big guy. Two kids 6’11 will be a huge help regardless of weight. Bruner was disruptive at 6’11 and was less than athletic running the court or jumping. Between Tchikou, Bediako and Langston Wilson we will have size and length with shot blocking and rebounding ability. That’s not even counting a potential KAH or getting Gurley.
     
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  46. Odin

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    yeah, lot of athleticism there. not to mention hiw massive increase in talent level. and ive seen enough evidence to believe that the staff can teach anyone to defend well on both an indivudual and team level regardless of how big they are.
     
  47. Tiffin

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    Petty's buy-in on the defensive side of the ball this year may have been the most impressive coaching job by this staff, to date.