CHAMPS XVIII

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  1. Joey Freshwater

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  2. Z

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    Yeah, I was hoping they'd stop at 8.

    12 is diluting the product, but not the revenue.
     
  3. DoubleDutchBus

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    Are they gonna give some teams a bye?
     
  4. TrustyPatches

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    6 was the sweet spot for me. Top two gets a bye, other 4 play for a spot in the final 4. Keeps the regular season meaningful
     
  5. Owsley

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    4 will always be the best number. 6 I would be ok with, anything else is just a money grab (duh).
     
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  6. Joey Freshwater

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  7. TrustyPatches

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    That record is so fucked
     
  8. i am a bammer

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    I think 4 is great if you're one of the 5-6 teams that have any realistic chance. I think 6 or 8 with a shortened regular season is the ideal outcome.
     
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  9. TrustyPatches

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    12 is too much, period. On the other hand, 4 isn’t enough. I think if you get to 6 or 8, with how CFB has been for the past 20 years, you’ve got some teams that can make some noise in the mix
     
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  10. Tommy Callahan

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    Lately the one has been skulldragging the four as it is
     
  11. Clown Baby

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    Can’t wait for the excitement of playing a 3-loss team. Anything can happen in the playoff!
     
  12. Juicy Locke

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    Alabama go play this team you’re probably going to beat by 4 touchdowns and try not to get anybody important hurt. That’s what a 12 team playoff will be.
     
  13. Clown Baby

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    Four?
     
  14. Juicy Locke

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    Saban is a man of class.
     
  15. Scott Van Pelt

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    4 is the sweet spot. There’s only been 1 or 2 times since the playoffs started that a 4 seed was really deserving of a chance to play in the natty. Most years it’s difficult finding 4 teams that really deserve to be there

    I do think adding teams will add some interesting games but overall I would imagine top 2-3 seeds will continue to dominate
     
  16. RJF-GUMP

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    Team: don't expand the playoff. The CFB regular season is the best season of any sport because all the games matter. The regular season is a playoff. To hell with anyone that thinks different.
     
  17. Stone Cold Steve Austin

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    Looks like college football falls victim to participation trophy culture with this move
     
  18. Z

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    I agree. If they were going to expand at all, then 6 was what I wanted, but it never seemed to get any discussion/traction, so I was hoping they'd stop at 12. But as we all know, it's only about money.

    I can't think of any year where there was a #11 or #12 ranked team that deserved to have a chance to play for the title.
     
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  19. Drown ‘Em

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    He’d also have more wins at Alabama. Bryant had 232 of his wins in Tuscaloosa. Saban currently has 170.
     
  20. southlick

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  21. Joey Freshwater

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  22. southlick

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    Albert Breer interview with Titans GM Jon Robinson on MMQB:

    MMQB: Were there conversations with people from Julio’s background when you were vetting all this that made you feel good about pulling the trigger?

    Jon Robinson: "Yeah, we did a lot of background work, talked to several different people. Everybody was pumped about his competitiveness, his desire to win, the way he works. And at the end of the day, Coach Saban spoke highly of Julio and his approach to the game of football. It felt like that was kind of the final straw. You have arguably the greatest college coach of all-time to endorse a player that he coached in college, and obviously has stayed in contact with. I think that was kind of the closer, that ‘Hey, this guy's about what we're about.’”

    MMQB: So it was important to figure out his fit?
    JR: "It is. And that's one of the unknowns. In free agency, we talk about it all the time, you look back at your college reports on players when they were coming out of college, and try to glean some information, but that's sometimes four, five, six years—whatever it may be— and people change over time. … But there was a YouTube clip of Julio back at Alabama, with Coach Saban, talking about accountability. And this is after Julio had been in the league for a while—one of the things he learned pretty early at Alabama was Coach Saban holding players accountable, and the best players holding their teammates accountable. That's so huge in the NFL, for teammates to hold each other accountable. And I thought that was pretty good perspective from Julio in that little YouTube clip that I saw."

     
  23. Whammy

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    Only thing I'll say on the playoff is I would have liked to have seen some of those UCF, TCU, and Baylor teams in the playoff. Six feels right to me, alot of smaller schools get excluded for the big names. 4 seed usually gets blown out, but its usually a runner up in a lesser P5 conference. Rather have an undefeated G5 juggernaut with some big time motivation
     
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  24. Owsley

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    2017 Alabama is the only 4 seed that wasn’t a P5 champion or Notre Dame; Ohio State made it as a non-champion 3 seed in 2016. I also don’t get the thought process that G5 teams are somehow deserving or will make it more competitive. UCF is the only G5 that’s had remotely close to a legitimate argument since the CFP was implemented, and even then their schedule was soft as shit and their two ranked regular season wins were far from convincing.
     
  25. i am a bammer

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    I think the argument is more like "what are they supposed to do to prove they're worthy besides win all their games?". Having undefeated teams get no chance at all is also a pretty shitty system even though I agree they'd get molllywhopped.
     
  26. TrustyPatches

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    I just think we need a couple extra spots to prove we don’t need anymore
     
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  27. Whammy

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    TCU & Baylor both had sick teams that should have gotten in IMO, Utah has had some competitive tames. I agree most years its a top 2-3 seed that wins it, but I could see a 5 upsetting a two which would be exciting.
     
  28. Owsley

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    Who should TCU or Baylor gotten in over, though? I don’t disagree that those teams were deserving, but the Big XII fucked them and Ohio State took advantage and won the whole thing. When has Utah been deserving in the CFP era? None of these teams are G5, anyway.
     
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  29. i am a bammer

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    Honestly yeah. I think when teams 4-12 get smoked every year we'll all think the games are kind of a waste.

    Hard to be mad at having 3-4 top-10 games to finish the season though. I love rings but I'm so fatigued by beating up on shitty schools for 90% of our games.
     
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  30. Owsley

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    My biggest argument against expansion is that there should be zero auto bids. Arbitrary conferences shouldn’t dictate who gets in or out, and teams should be selected via a BCS-type formula instead of a committee that clearly makes the rules as they go.
     
  31. TeeDee

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    My problem with 12 is this is very much an add too much and it becomes harder to trim later deal. Go to 6 with a bye for the 1/2 seed like Patches said, then reevaluate down the line. Realistically, the ratings for #1 Alabama vs #12 Northwestern will be fucking awful (much less say, a Cincinnati vs Minnesota or some shit), and you'll rarely if ever see the Cinderella story that people want to see imitated from basketball, the main logic behind a 12 team pool. There will be occasional upsets but a 2017 UCF isn't running the table against multiple good teams.
     
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  32. LeonardWashington

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    also if the proper selection criteria are used and no stupid auto-bids, people will be twice as mad as they are now when 5 SEC teams make a 12 team playoff
     
  33. Juicy Locke

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    Exactly. 10 years down the road when no team beyond a 8 seed just makes the national title game, everybody is gonna say the whole thing is pointless but at that point you can’t go back.
     
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  34. LeonardWashington

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    I said this a long time ago and got dragged for it but

    If they move to an 8 or 12 team playoff, there is virtually zero chance that us, Clemson, and Ohio St wouldn't get in annually under current leadership. Those schools are pretty much never going to lose 3 games in the regular season, you might could throw Oklahoma in there too. So the priority might eventually shift to being healthy and rested for the playoff run. Do we want a system where the best players on the best teams aren't playing late in the season, which is the best part of the year?
     
  35. Clown Baby

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    Heisman race gonna suck
     
  36. LeonardWashington

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    i don't want to live in a world where we aren't trying 110% to skullfuck auburn 60-0 by god

    roll damn tide paul
     
  37. i am a bammer

    i am a bammer Ben Eblen>Jamychal Green
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    Always has
     
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  38. RJF-GUMP

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  39. RJF-GUMP

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  40. RJF-GUMP

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  41. RJF-GUMP

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  42. The Blackfish

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    We need to push this narrative. I’d buy a shirt
     
  43. RJF-GUMP

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    stop the inside trap
    it’s a trap game
     
  44. RJF-GUMP

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  45. Clown Baby

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    The music from the Dark Knight really makes it
     
  46. JohnLocke

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  47. dblplay1212

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    rv12
     
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  48. rv12

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    you're a jerk.
     
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  49. Clown Baby

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    What the fuck, Cecil

     
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