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  1. The Blackfish

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    My first year was Saban’s first year. Got to enjoy all of high school surrounded by boogs every year. Still went to every home game. Missed most of our high school football games because I worked at Chick-fil-A then Tortugas and had to choose either Friday night or Saturday to work every week and always chose Friday so I could watch us lose in Bryant Denny on Saturdays.

    RTR
     
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  2. Jake Barnes

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    To be fair, our HS team wasn’t worth watching until the year after you left. :laugh:
     
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  3. DoubleDutchBus

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    Where did y’all go to high school?
     
  4. Capstone 88

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    Here’s the clip:

     
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  5. Drown ‘Em

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    Again, not sure who this is, but thought it was another well written memorial.


    What I learned from Cecil Hurt, a real wizard
    Nick Kelly
    The Tuscaloosa News

    I first witnessed the magic of Cecil Hurt on a Sunday night in Bessemer.

    Cecil invited me on an impromptu road trip to Hoover to see if we could find an Alabama football media guide at the hotel the day before SEC Media Days. Still recovering from a leg injury, he stayed in the car and guided me on the phone while I snuck in and dug around boxes in a dark room. It felt like our own version of “Oceans Eleven” or something.

    I never found anything, unfortunately.

    Before returning to Tuscaloosa, Cecil asked if I had time to eat at The Bright Star. I was hungry, so I said sure.

    We pulled up and learned the wait was about 40 minutes. "Great. It’s already after 7 p.m., I didn’t eat lunch and we’re not going to get back until late," I thought.

    “Wait here one second,” Cecil said as he shuffled away.

    A few minutes later, a woman I didn’t know emerged.

    “Nick?” she asked. “Follow me.”

    She brought me to the table where Cecil was, of course, seated. Over the course of the meal, the owner, the chef and others came to say hello to him. I joked to Cecil that he pulled some strings with some connections he had. He brushed it off, saying they got him a spot to sit down for his injured leg. Maybe so, but I know it’s really because the people there all loved him.

    Cecil died Tuesday at 62.

    You spend a day, heck an hour, with Cecil in public in Alabama and you can’t help but be moved. It seemed everywhere we went in Alabama or on the road, someone knew him.

    People flocked to him in a way I’ve never seen. It happened from the day I met him to our last road trip together. And no matter if it was a famous person or one of the 115,000 who followed him on Twitter, he treated them the same.

    Whenever someone walked up to him to talk Alabama sports, he handled each conversation with respect, humility and didn’t try to correct any opinion. He listened.

    “Everyone knows more than you do,” he once explained to me.

    Part of his logic in that advice came from knowing it wasn’t worth arguing with most folks about Alabama football, but much of it came from the fact that he never saw himself above anyone.

    Cecil was never stingy with journalism insights or advice when I sought it, but I think I learned more from observing.

    For a while, it perplexed me the way people gravitated to him. Cecil didn’t have some big personality or wear some fancy clothes. He didn’t have the bravado I’d think someone with his celebrity would have.

    He was Cecil. The wonderful Pelicans-shorts-wearing man who often tucked his glasses and teal iPhone into the chest pocket of his shirt. The man who thanked anyone and everyone who helped him in some way and never wanted to inconvenience you. He’s the guy who always used his trusty iPad to work his word magic. I’ll never understand how he was able to write columns so powerfully and effortlessly on a touch screen, but wow, could he turn a phrase. Maybe it was the humming. He always hummed while on deadline, and it always made me smile.

    That was the magic of Cecil. He never tried to be anyone he wasn’t. I think that’s why people trusted him, sought him and loved him.

    The secret ingredient to his success was being himself. Nothing more, nothing less.

    Of all that Cecil taught me, I don’t know there’s any greater lesson I’ll learn in my journalism career or in my life.

    One of the last times I saw him in the hospital, it was the night before a procedure. He had to drink this awful-tasting beverage ahead of time, and it was so repulsive he only drank about half a glass at a time. We’d talk, he’d sip and every so often, he’d ask me to refill the cup.

    Cecil joked it’s like the part from "Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince" when Potter must help Albus Dumbledore drink the potion that ultimately brings the great wizard pain. They needed to get the Horcrux at the bottom of the drink.

    When I left that day, I couldn’t help but wonder how on earth I was blessed with this opportunity, having the chance to learn from the best of the best, like Potter did.

    Dumbledore, however, was fictional. Cecil was a real wizard.

    Just ask Dumbledore.

    “Words,” Dumbledore once said, “are, in my not-so-humble opinion, our most inexhaustible source of magic.”

    And no one wielded words like Cecil.
     
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  6. gus_chiggins

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    Worked at Tokyo on Hwy 69 (nice) during the 2008 season and told my very Korean boss I was the equipment manager for the football team so I had every Saturday off :mulletsmug:
     
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  7. Z

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    Jimmy?
     
  8. Jake Barnes

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    The same institution as beloved former user Franktus and 96 others who has been on a several-years-long pilgrimage to discover the Fountain of Youth in the steamy jungles of Brazil.
     
  9. Z

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  10. Jake Barnes

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    The graphic doesn’t show it, but we’re 21st in case anybody was wondering.
     
  11. Z

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    Yeah, that was why I posted it. You have to keep looking to find us.
     
  12. RJF-GUMP

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  13. Jake Barnes

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    I was honestly surprised we’re even that high, but when you think about it, we do get a pretty good number of stops, just not as many of the ones we need late in the game, so it looms larger.
     
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  14. RJF-GUMP

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    We're 19th in 3rd down conversion % defense
     
  15. RJF-GUMP

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    Defensive stats per the NCAA

    Rushing Defense-5

    Team Sacks-6

    Total Defense 8

    Team Tackle for Loss-13

    1st down defense-17

    3rd down conversion % Defense-19

    Scoring Defense-19

    Passing Yards Allowed-54

    Team Passing Efficiency Defense-68

    Red Zone Defense-106
     
  16. Jake Barnes

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    Lol Jesus at that RZ D
     
  17. RJF-GUMP

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    If you play a bend but not break defense but break 98% of the time then ......
     
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  18. Owsley

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    It makes our scoring D being top 20 pretty impressive. A lot of red zone D is variance, but yeah, we’ve got to find a way to shore that up against UGA.
     
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  19. The Milkman

    The Milkman Send lawyers, guns and money, shit has hit the fan

    I had a turf toe injury about 10 weeks ago. It still bothers me. I always thought turf toe was pretty minor, but it can be brutal.
     
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  20. gus_chiggins

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    We had to call him Mr Lee, but yeah that sounds right. His brother or brother in law owned/ran the hibachi place on 15th that I can’t remember the name of right now. Think it started with an H
     
  21. The Blackfish

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    Hokkaido
     
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  22. gus_chiggins

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    That’s the one
     
  23. Z

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    I thought Jimmy’s brother ran Bento (RIP). Sauce was similar. Tokyo has the best.
     
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  24. junior5

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    what a great article. Kudos
     
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  25. gus_chiggins

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    You’re right. It was Bento
     
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  26. the Weimar Beer Belly

    the Weimar Beer Belly This joie de vivre is killing me
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    John T Morgan Academy. Graduated in ‘00 and my last year in college was Saban’s first year (didn’t start til 2003) :bernie:
     
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  27. junior5

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    Auburn fans claiming moral victories for the UConn bball game :loldog: so glad those days are behind us :mulletsmug:
     
  28. Drown ‘Em

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    Here are the last 37 minutes from Finebaum yesterday after the news of Cecil’s passing for those may want to watch it all.
     
  29. DoubleDutchBus

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    That’s all the bunker is currently, I went to check after this post and holy shit.
     
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  30. southlick

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    Bama -12 vs Iona tomorrow
     
  31. jplaYa

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    Was 13.5 yesterday
     
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  32. southlick

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  33. southlick

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  34. TrustyPatches

    TrustyPatches Fuck Kyle Busch
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    A man of incredible intellect who used that intellect to connect to the common man.

    shit man, he may be gone but what a legacy to leave behind. The smartest man on earth humble enough to serve his audience fairly and respectfully.
     
  35. Jack Parkman

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    What were your thought on Napier when he was at Bama?

    I see he was listed as a pretty good recruiter but then again who isn’t at Bama
     
  36. Drown ‘Em

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  37. TrustyPatches

    TrustyPatches Fuck Kyle Busch
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    Billy Napier is a cocksucker and I say that because one of my good friends played for him and says he’s a piece of shit.

    he can recruit tho
     
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  38. Jack Parkman

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    Well I guess that’s an improvement over a cocksucker who can’t recruit
     
  39. Tiffin

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    Edit - I'm dumb
     
  40. Z

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    Very good recruiter. Always heard the WR room didn’t really like him though.
     
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  41. southlick

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    -- Saban said Cecil Hurt was “one of the best of his time, in terms of being a journalist. He just wasn’t a reporter. He didn’t try to create news.” Saban said Hurt was one of the few people in the media he “actually trusted,” and Saban told him things he wouldn’t others. Saban added Hurt would then “promote” the idea Saban presented to the community. Saban complimented Hurt’s intelligence and said he never felt Hurt was “putting him on the spot” by trying to get information. “I’m really going to miss reading his column,” he said. “I don’t read about our team, when people write about our team, but I always read what he wrote.”



    -- Saban talked about legacy and said Hurt’s death makes you, “realize how fragile life really is, and how we’re all a caretaker of our own legacy based on the choices and decisions we make. ... Cecil really leaves a legacy for his profession where everybody thinks he made it better,” Saban said.
     
  42. southlick

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    -- “Bryce has had an outstanding year,” Saban said of his quarterback. He said the wide receivers have made explosive plays. “When you throw for 500-something yards like we did last week, that’s a lot of good players doing a lot of good things.”



    -- Saban said Arkansas’ KJ Jefferson was big and difficult to get down, and Auburn’s T.J. Finley is similar to that in being hard to sack. “Different than Bo [Nix],” Saban said, explaining Nix had athleticism and escapability that made him difficult to sack; Finley is more about size.



    -- Asked about differences in Finley from LSU to Auburn, Saban said he is more experienced now. “I do think he has made some pretty significant improvements,” Saban said. “It looks to me like their team plays well around him. I think they can be a very dangerous team.”



    -- First caller PeeWee asked about having a sixth offensive lineman on the field and how often that is practiced. Saban said they’ve been doing it all year long because Kendall Randolph is effectively an offensive lineman even though he wears an eligible number (No. 85). Saban has to alert officials to that before every game. “He’s a unique player,” Saban said of Randolph. “It helps us a lot because we don’t have that many guys at tight ends who are, kind of, dominant blockers, I’m gonna call it. ... [Randolph] has certainly done a marvelous job this year of doing that.” Saban said having a tight end who can block is a key to many plays.



    -- Asked if the players around in 2019 helped younger players get ready for Jordan-Hare, Saban noted there are not many who are still there, but players still need to understand they need to stay focused on the task at hand. “Most of the bad plays that we have, it’s because somebody makes a mental error or doesn’t play the right technique,” he said. “This will be a tough environment for us to play in.”

    -- Asked about slipping on fields, Saban said players can only wear a certain length cleat but players have several shoes to choose from. Saban relayed that Bill Belichick in Cleveland would tell players to get shoes “that work” if they slipped on the field. At this time of year in Alabama, Saban said, zoysia grass stops growing and goes dormant. Rye grass grows in “any circumstance,” Saban said, and that is a thicker blade grass and gets slicker when wet. Saban said players did have issues with footing the last time at Auburn but he did not think that lost the game, noting pick-sixes and clock management at the end of the game.

    -- “Everybody talks about the kick six,” Saban said of the 2013 Iron Bowl loss, but “nobody talks about” Alabama’s several missed chances at the goal line.



    -- Saban said Alabama did a lot of good things against Arkansas but never put them away. “We kept shooting ourselves in the foot,” he said, noting their first-and-goal situation that was followed by a holding penalty, long sack and missed field goal. Saban said the holding call was “25 yards away” from the play and “not a very disciplined thing to do” by right tackle Damieon George.

    -- Saban explained the fake field goal conversion, saying DeMarcco Hellams might not have run into the official if he was “looking at his guy.”



    -- Saban said Alabama busted its coverage on Arkansas’ final touchdown. “The linebacker wasn’t even supposed to be on that guy,” he said.



    -- “You let people hang around, and sooner or later, the ball bounces in the wrong direction, and that’s how you lose,” Saban said.

    -- Saban said players mostly know what they do wrong immediately after that do it. “I will say this in defense of our players -- 50 percent of the plays and formations that we saw in the Arkansas game were not things that we practiced and not things they had done in the past,” he said. “There’s a thousand ghosts you can defend. You can’t defend them all.” Saban said experience and good leadership are important because players do not start reeling during games and get affected by what happens.
     
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  43. Drown ‘Em

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    It would be great if they honor Cecil’s legacy by creating their own from Saturday onward. It would be a story worthy of being forever told along with Cecil’s legacy.
     
  44. Clown Baby

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    A gap year for each member of The Gap Band. Respect.
     
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  45. Tiffin

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    Saw a petition on Twitter to name the press box after Cecil. Seems obvious.
     
  46. southlick

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    -- Of players being finalists for awards, Saban said both Jameson Williams and Will Anderson have done an “outstanding job all year long,” adding Williams is a great competitor with energy, enthusiasm and how he players with emotion has impacted other players on offense.



    -- Asked if the secondary issues are technique or something else, Saban said they did not play very well against Arkansas. One of the important things about playing secondary is defending the deep ball. “It’s something that we need to continue to work on and continue to improve.” Between third and fourth downs, Arkansas was 10-of-19, Saban said. “The other team has good players too,” he said. “I think our communication needs to be better. We need to play better together. I don’t think we break on the ball like we need to at times.” There were five players standing and looking at the play instead of breaking on the ball on an Arkansas touchdown, adding that was frustrating. Saban said the players on the field are the best they have, and they believe in them but they need to get them to play better.



    -- Asked about how helpful the performance of Alabama’s recent quarterbacks is in recruiting, Saban said there is no question. It means there is a style of offense built around the quarterback, and years ago they could not say that. “In the last four or five years, we’ve become much more quarterback-oriented, and the quarterbacks have developed really nicely here in the system,” he said. “They have great production and performance, so every high school quarterback wants to be in the same circumstance and same situation.”



    -- Saban said Jalen Hurts needed to run as a quarterback but developed into not needing them. “Our philosophy of not having the quarterback run a lot, unless it’s a scramble-type play, it’s not a designed quarterback run for the most part, I think is also something that is helpful,” he said. “Hopefully that guy doesn’t get hurt; that’s kind of an NFL thing for me. ... You can win throwing the ball.”



    -- Saban said you can’t do what Bryce Young does if you don’t have natural instincts. But an ability to use those instincts consistently is developed, and takes an understanding of what the defense is doing to quickly know where to go with the ball. Young feels the rush without looking at it to make plays on the move.



    -- “I don’t know. He did it today in practice,” Saban said of Young stopping before the line of scrimmage to make a pass, as he did on a touchdown against Arkansas.



    -- Defensive players want to naturally tackle the guy with the ball, Saban explained, coming off their receiver to do so. Young knows that coverage was lost and can throw there.
     
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  47. jawsthegreat

    jawsthegreat Roll Tide, go Hoos. Fuck Mike London.

    lotta pain buried in those four undefeated on thanksgiving years that didn’t end that way
     
  48. southlick

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    -- “I think people don’t really -- rat poison and rat poison, and the media is always going to create it. But the reality of the world is not what you read on the Internet,” Saban said. He continued by saying people think when a team loses two games, it’s done, but noted how Texas A&M and LSU played in those situations against Alabama. “It’s just the opposite. They’re competitors. They have moms and dads. They have pride in performance,” Saban said, his voice rising. “They don’t just throw in the towel. ... We’re going to get everybody’s best game. I don’t know why people can’t understand that. ... You can say it’s not fair to our players that they get everybody’s best game, but they do.”



    -- “When I came here, everybody was happy to win a game. Now we’re not happy to win a game anymore. We’re not happy to win at all.”
     
  49. bamasam09

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    Fucking nailed it.
     
  50. southlick

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