CHAMPS XVIII

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  1. Drown ‘Em

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    Pretty sure he told his dad, “we’re gonna get better.”
     
  2. southlick

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  3. RJF-GUMP

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    One narrative that I’ve seen people talking about that I think is a huge crock of shit is this talk about whether we had stayed vanilla prior to UGA and had a big bag of plays that nobody had seen yet and whether that had an impact on the game. If you watched any Alabama football coming into this game, and you were surprised that we use outside runs with lead blockers, you have a very low football IQ . There was absolutely no reason Georgia should’ve been surprised by that. That is actually just really bad coaching. I’m sure they were expecting it. I think they probably were caught off guard by how physical and fast and how good of athletes we had running it. But every time I hear someone talking about whether or not we had shown our whole playbook or whether we had a whole bunch of stuff left it pisses me off because it’s not some huge impact on this game.
     
  4. southlick

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  5. RJF-GUMP

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    The college football nerds video on the game comes right out the gate with this topic and Daniel saying it was the difference in the game :facepalm:
     
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  6. RJF-GUMP

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    It’s just intellectually lazy because everything we did to get that big lead in the first half were things we’ve been doing all season: (1) Jalen straight out athleting people on busted plays (2) outside run (3) QB power (4) wheel routes (5) orbit motion (6) end arounds. Can you name me anything in the first half that had a huge impact on offense that was new?
     
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  7. Capstone 88

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    Man, KLaw was whipping this dude’s ass. Looking like that scene from The Blindside.

     
  8. Odin

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    i remember jq once was definitely not going to play until december with an ankle then he ended up only missing 2-3 games
     
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  9. Tiffin

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    TE seam plays up the middle and some middle crossing routes. I do think we opened that sort of mid game passing stuff up
     
  10. Owsley

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    That’s also Starks, who Kirby called their best player in the postgame presser. You love to see it.
     
  11. junior5

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    and it looks like he cried to ref after the play :loldog:
     
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  12. Drown ‘Em

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    Anyone got access?
     
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  13. Odin

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  14. Joey Freshwater

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    we are going to play some huge line ups on the court this year and it’s going to be fucking awesome.
     
  15. i am a bammer

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    Go watch that first Jalen tuddy where he walks in. Law pushed his dude back to the middle of the field
     
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  16. TeeDee

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    On rewatch, I felt a bit different about things. The defense played well outside of young guys in the secondary getting harassed more the last half, but them continually converting 4th was the knell.

    My take was we got too vanilla on offense, but honestly we should have gone even more vanilla in hindsight and ran clock, especially after their 7 minute drive. Execution just became abysmal and made it seem like we took foot off gas. Some things like Law getting hurt contributed to that, but they also adjusted well.
     
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  17. LeonardWashington

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    The defense gave up 275 yards in the fourth quarter. I can go maybe ok but I simply can’t say they played well. Continually giving up fourth downs counts and you can’t just gloss over it.
     
  18. i am a bammer

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    This one
     
  19. LeonardWashington

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    Offensively I thought it was very good I just did not like the trick plays. We didn’t need them. We were the better team, we had them on their heels, just execute our shit. Thought the trick plays took us out of rhythm a few times
     
  20. Drown ‘Em

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  21. i am a bammer

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    Those trick plays weren't going to work on a defense as good as UGAs
     
  22. Odin

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    i think the big issue here was it taking us out of rhythm. the plays weren't such disasters they resulted in massive losses. they just kinda didn't work. i think it's fine to sprinkle those in throughout the game but trying 3 within a 10 play stretch is definitely going to cause rhythm issues.
     
  23. Owsley

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    It’s really difficult to stop an elite team that is going for it on 4th down no matter what for the final 2.5 quarters. Completely changes how they call their offense and just creates a weird situation for your D that you can’t really prepare for. We were certainly at fault for some of it, some of it is big time players making big time plays, and there was a lot of luck on all the conversions (with some help from the stripes). It’s just hard for me to buy too much into it other than it being a flukey scenario we likely don’t encounter again this season.
     
  24. TeeDee

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    Eh, the trick play isn't even mentioned if the mugging of Germie Bernard gets convicted by the refs as it deserved to. That was insanely egregious and at worst 33-7 prevented, but likely 37-7.
     
  25. Owsley

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    We also dropped a couple of more picks similar to the SECCG last year. Dippre inexplicably drops that pass which leads to an interception. Adams muffing the kickoff. Just weird shit all around. Had 2015 Ole Miss vibes for a second there.
     
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  26. TYdeFan05

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    He replaced almost all of them. The old system had much better stills. The new system has better video. I prefer stills, personally, but I acknowledge social media has skewed heavily towards video and that’s ultimately what matter to ‘cruitin’ so I’ll take it.
     
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  27. RJF-GUMP

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    If they start doing it in normal games, I will critique them as they deserve. I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt for it being such a weird situation where we had blown the doors off the other team in the 1st half. I think we're all being generous by giving them that benefit. They pretty much played like shit in the 2nd half. But there were a lot of extenuating circumstances and I'm not sure if it is even applicable to future games this season. Was obviously super pleased by how they played in the 1st half.
     
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  28. Owsley

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    Burnip had a couple of shitty punts too, and his one good one we failed to down inside the 5 with ample opportunity to do so.
     
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  29. Joey Freshwater

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    this was my takeaway. They killed momentum and drives. Unneeded. Felt like we win that game more handily if we don’t try those things. There’s a time and place for them, that wasn’t it.
     
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  30. Rammer Jammer

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    I’m ok with them if we use them to set up something further down the road. Also No better time when up big to work on one or two to see if it works and what can be improved on with them.
     
  31. Joey Freshwater

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    I definitely think it helps add another wrinkle to this offense for people to be concerned with. Clearly they’re okay letting Bernard throw it. He did it at Washington too. One of those plays are going to work at some point but also the thought of it being a possibility is just another thing to prepare for when teams prep for us.
     
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  32. stric006

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    I can't believe a reporter didn't ask for a injury report. Is it because they are released on Wednesday now?
     
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  33. Tiffin

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    If you're pulling our gadget plays against UGA, you're willing to do it to anyone. Even if it doesn't set things up down the road (it will) it's another thing for teams to worry about when facing us.
     
  34. Snakes

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    Love the deboer heat check calling that double reverse pass. I was shocked it didn't work.
     
  35. junior5

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    Yeah I’m always going to be ok with us being aggressive unless it’s late in the game and we need to try to put a long clock killing drive together. I’d much rather lose playing aggressive than playing soft.

    I’m embracing the shit out of Debo’s aggressive coaching. We’re coming for that throat every play and we’re confident about it. I love it
     
  36. (Z)

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    The Zone seats? $2,500 per seat unless it's changed.
     
  37. TeeDee

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    I think my favorite part about the RW play is him taking his mouthpiece out at the 5 knowing they weren't catching him, like he had just did that against an FCS defense. His confidence at 17 is insane. Epitome of put the ball in my hands.

    He's gonna mature more physically as well. Faster, stronger, bigger after years in our S&C. The short way I described him to people when he was at Saraland was he's a guy worthy of a 6th star. I can't imagine him in year three in this system.
     
  38. (Z)

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    It was set up perfectly, we just didn't get the effort out of the offensive line that we needed.
     
  39. stric006

    stric006 Recovering Butter Beer addict
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    Does that include your donation to Tide Pride? Or is that a separate charge? I know with ours its 2200.00 to Tide Pride and 2500 for 4 tickets.
     
  40. (Z)

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    The $2,500.00 is, or was, the Tide Pride donation amount. I know it's easier to get tickets in the Zone, but scholarship club is cheaper and so much better seats.
     
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  41. Snakes

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    That's not including the $30-$50K donation you need to make to Tide Pride to get to the front of the line to actually get the right to purchase the tickets.
     
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  42. (Z)

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    Has something changed?

    We had zone tickets for a few years when they first did it, and they were easy to get. Apparently wasn't super high demand for them at the time. Gave them up some time ago. Or was that just because we already had other tickets?
     
  43. stric006

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    This is what I was looking for.
     
  44. Snakes

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    You were already In the club through past donations I believe.

    My co worker had been sitting in the scholarship club for 20+ years thru his dad's business. when his dad retired he lost the tickets. So he called up Tidepride and he had to pay $30K just to have access to purchasing the tickets. Since he was brand new to Tide Pride was starting from scratch. I believe his tickets were $1500 each.
     
  45. RJF-GUMP

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    The thing I was worried about the most , which was us stopping their run, didn't even become an issue because we blew them out so bad in the 1st half, they had to throw the ball to get back into the game. I think we hung in there decent enough against the run. Etienne had 12 carries and averaged 4.6 . Robinson had 2 carries and averaged 4.0. Overall their backs averaged 4.5 ypc.

    The following is their RB YPC against us, does not include QBs or WRs.
    2023- 3.47 ypc
    2022-Natty- 7.95 ypc
    2021-4.4 ypc
    2020 - 5.6 ypc
    2018-SECCG - 4.5 ypc
    2017-Natty-3.83 ypc
    So Kirby/UGA RBs vs Saban defenses from 2017-2023 averaged 4.95 ypc.
    So Wommack actually held them under their typical YPC vs Saban defenses. Although , as noted above, this was a very atypical game.
     
  46. Rammer Jammer

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  47. Snakes

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    The deboer statue with a hoodie is going to be so epic. :dealwithit:
     
  48. TeeDee

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    Truly a beer gut of champions (they better add that part).
     
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  49. i am a bammer

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    Need that Law update
     
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