Chicago Bears - Soldier Calebs

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  1. DirtBall

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    Poles/Warren need to step in and fire Waldron to save Caleb. He’s regressing, the lines a disaster, and Moore and the other WRs are quitting mid game. Warren better be contacting Johnson’s agent and getting the number it’ll take. You know the cheap ass owners will want to low ball him.
     
  2. Gunners

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    Nothing can save Caleb, thanks

    please thread ban me
     
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  3. spagett

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    What a cunt
     
  4. Gunners

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    I certainly do so
     
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  5. DirtBall

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    He’s still better than Jaylen….
     
  6. Jay Jay Okocha

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    Caleb is doing too much.
     
  7. Jay Jay Okocha

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    I’m all in on Johnson, remains to be seen how he operates as a HC though.

    I’m not sure what it is about our hiring process that has resulted in HC after HC that refuses to demand standards in all three phases. Even if you go back to Lovie, it was his laxness on offense that cost him.

    Given Belichick’s comments on the Bears, I rate it as close to zero that we pick up the phone to him if Johnson refuses to come. He is the exact time of personality that I expect the McCaskey’s don’t like but what the team needs.
     
  8. NilesIrish

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    Guy we tailgate with at ND knows Warren's secretary, apparently Poles wanted to launch Flus after the Washington game... Ownership stopped him.

    Good stuff.
     
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    This is great! Who is rumored to take over? The defensive back that was hired to be a QB coach? This franchise is beyond fucked and is going to ruin Caleb... Third rookie QB to be ruined by shit ownership and franchise.
     
  10. Bankz

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    What a fucking shit franchise... They refuse to pay coaches for not coaching. The only way they fire coaches is if they get raided at Halas Hall because of them.
     
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  11. Jay Jay Okocha

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    Changing play callers now…that is damning.
     
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    Holy shit... they are going to bench Caleb.
     
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    He's correct... Caleb is regressing because the offense is broken.
     
  14. RoderickJaynes

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  15. Jay Jay Okocha

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    Is it true that we didn’t hire Kingsbury because we were concerned he’d leave after a season?

    Would he hilarious now if he ends up as HC here after this shitshow.
     
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  16. Illinihockey

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    this would be Flus’ 5th coordinator in 2.5 seasons
     
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  17. Clark W. Griswold23

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    Kingsbury isn’t the answer, I promise you that.
     
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    Change playcallers to...... who?? Is there some savant in house that I'm unaware of? If you want to send a message, send the right one and fire everyone so that we can properly tank and retool. This is like slapping a bandaid on a severed artery
     
  19. Scblue

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    With the upcoming schedule, not sure we have to worry about the tanking part. Might not win another game even we are trying to.

    Apparently there are a couple other guys on staff that have called an offense before.
     
  20. Jay Jay Okocha

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    As a head coach no. I do think it is ridiculous if he wasn’t hired as OC because of a fear he’d leave.
     
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  21. spagett

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    This is the same organization that hired Marc Trestman instead of Bruce Arians because they didn't like his mock press conference and the fact he was gonna hire Todd Bowles as DC instead of retaining Marinelli

    Just incompetent
     
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  22. Bankz

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    George McCaskey took over day to day operation of the Chicago Bears and his first act was to fire Lovie Smith coming off a 10-6 season.

    He's then gone on to Hire a coach and in his lame duck season draft a 1st round QB. Fire that coach, Hire a new coach and in his lame duck season draft a 1st round QB. Fired that coach, Hire a new coach and in his lame duck season drafted Caleb 1.1

    George McCaskey should be forced to answer to the media, spagett is correct people shouldn't show up to Soldier Field and support this team the rest of the season. The fans should be calling into the radio stations and calling for him to sell the team. Those who do attend the games should bring signs that say "Sell the team" and they should chant loudly during the game to "fire George"

    But this fanbase is to stupid to see the problem and they will focus on Flus and after that Caleb and finally Poles... Then we repeat this exact cycle with a new front office, head coach and rookie qb.
     
  23. Jay Jay Okocha

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    Firing Lovie was justified imo. He showed off the same traits that a lot of the coaches they hired, high standards in some areas but not others. Mike Tice his offensive co-ordinator for his final season ffs.

    We had reached the end of the road with that group. Hiring Trestman though was unbelievable, how on earth did he get through an interview?
     
  24. RoderickJaynes

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    Waldron out
     
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  27. Bert Handsome

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    Were these the same players that were advocating for Everflus to keep his job last year?
     
  28. RoderickJaynes

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    That’s good.

    There were also apparently some vet players asking for bagent to start.

    That’s bad.
     
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  32. GGCD

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    Poles has fucked this organization so bad.

    What a disaster.

    If he didn't get handed the Panthers deal on a silver platter, he'd be considered the worst GM in the league.

    Clean fucking house. Everyone gone.
     
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  33. Illinihockey

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    I just don’t understand why he’s so tied to Eberflus. I just can’t imagine it’s his decision, no rational person would do this
     
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    Do you think he’s done worse than pace? Pace screwed up the organizational health much more than poles in my eyes.

    Poles has made inexcusable errors and he should be held accountable for those mistakes but there’s levels to this
     
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  36. GGCD

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    Pace at least got some things right.

    His first two drafts were disasters, then his 3rd year was the trubisky fiasco and drafting Shaheen over lifelong Bears fan George Kittle.

    Outside of that, he had a lot of hits, especially with later round guys. Eddie Jackson, JJ, Montgomery and Cohen at RB, Darnell Mooney, etc. Drafted Roquan. Signed Hicks. I still think the Mack trade was bad, but it ended up working out obviously and shaped the entire defense and team.

    What has Poles done that is good outside of the Panthers trade? Literally the only good thing I can think of is drafting Braxton Jones. You can make an argument for Gordon/Brisker in the 2nd in 2022, but everyone was clamoring for them to draft George Pickens there, so was that really a W?

    Now let's go over the bad.

    1. Trading what was destined to be a high 2nd round pick (ended up being the1st pick) for Chase Claypool when the Bears were 3-5 only to give him away for nothing less than a year later.
    2. Passing up on Pickens or OL with top two picks in 2022 when Bears desperately needed help for their young stud QB Justin Fields.
    3. Choosing Darnell Wright over Jalen Carter in 2023.
    4. Having the #1 overall draft pick and the most cap space in the league heading into 2024 and somehow getting significantly worse.
    5. The offensive line. Coleman Shelton. What in the fuck.
    6. Not firing Eberflus.
    7. Getting two 2nds, a 5th, and two 6ths for Khalil Mack, Roquan Smith, and Justin Fields. How is that even possible? We traded two 1sts, a 3rd and a 6th to get Khalil Mack alone. Roquan is still the 2nd best LB in the league and Mack is still dominating the league.
    8. Trading picks for expiring contracts. You can't keep on doing this. You do it once or twice in special circumstances. It can't be a model. He's done it a billion times. Sweat, Keenan Allen, Bates, Darrell Taylor, etc
    9. Drafting Velus Jones in the first place, refusing to cut him after muffing a billion kicks/punts, declining to trade him in the offseason when offered an actual draft pick for him opting instead to keep him on the roster only to cut him after yet another muffed kick in the first quarter of the first game. He didn't even last a quarter!
    10. It's early but Jayden Daniels looks like a star and Caleb has been ass. I know it's not Caleb's fault entirely but gotta put it here.
    11. Nate Davis.
    12. Putting the OL here again. How do you not improve the OL after it ended Justin Fields' career last season.

    He's AWFUL. He's made two good moves out of about 100, and one of them was handed to him on a silver platter. He has to go.
     
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  37. RoderickJaynes

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    A post outlining the good and bad of Ryan Poles that doesn’t include the name Montez sweat as a good but does include the phrase “young stud QB Justin Fields” might just be a touch biased
     
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  38. Illinihockey

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    Did George Pickens turn into a star and I didn’t hear about it? He’s good but so is Kyler. Also how do you lament him getting rid of expiring contracts for too little then also complain about him acquiring expiring contracts? What do you think Montez sweat would have been worth if he had 3 years left on his deal? We missed on Jalen Carter but don’t get credit for gervon? How about the billingsly signing?

    isn’t the overwhelming consensus this is a very good roster that is massively underperforming expectations because of shit coaching?
     
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  39. Illinihockey

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    how could he only get a 6th round pick for a guy benched for Russel Wilson’s corpse!?!
     
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  40. Bankz

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    We had players advocating to keep Flus? News to me...
     
  41. Bankz

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    This is a bad take...
     
  42. Mr. Bean

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    I like manic posts like this

    #5 and #11 should be a lot higher.

    I remember there being a lot of excitement about Poles when he was hired bc he was coming from KC and bc he was an OL (even for the Bears for a min). He has been WORSE than his predecessors at neglecting that position group. Just awful evaluations across the board (Wright has some time to grow but Davis, Shelton, Bates, Amegadjie are all really really poor judgment)
     
  43. Illinihockey

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    he hasn’t neglected the group though but every single offensive lineman has become worse the longer they’ve been here. The one constant is the offensive line coach. Every offensive line in the league isn’t filled with day one picks and big money free agents. The patriots line is held together with duct tape and they looked fine last week. Thought I read they’ve put 6 OL on IR this year already
     
  44. GGCD

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    Did Brisker and Gordon? Pickens may not be a star, but he's one of the best 32 wide receivers in the NFL, and that makes him good enough to be a #1 WR if my math is correct. He had 1150 yards last season and he's on pace for 1200+ this season, all with disastrous offensive coordinators. The point is that Fields didn't have a WR who could catch a football last year, forget getting open.


    If you don't see the difference between trading Khalil Mack and Roquan Smith for pennies and giving away Fields for a 6th round pick and trading the 32nd pick for Chase Claypool, another high 2nd round pick for Montez Sweat, etc....I don't know what to tell you.

    Look at Khalil Mack vs Montez Sweat head to head.

    We traded 2 firsts, a 3rd, and a 6th to get Mack. Then we signed him to a massive contract. Then we traded him away for a late 2nd and 6th right in the middle of that contract. Then we traded a high 2nd for Montez Sweat and signed him to a massive contract. Meanwhile Mack is still outproducing Sweat while making significantly less money.

    How is this a winning formula. Make it make sense.