Chicago Bears - Soldier Fields

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  1. DirtBall

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    LETS GO LADS!!!
     
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  2. Illinihockey

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    Why let Pace mortgage the future, I don’t get it
     
  3. DirtBall

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    Mortgage the future? We traded next years 1. Was the entire future based on that 1 pick?
     
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  4. spagett

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    Dude... McCaskey is a huge cuck

    This is common knowledge
     
  5. Quick

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    I’m pumped!!! Let’s gooo
     
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  6. Illinihockey

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    the bears will have made 1 first round pick over 4 years. After next years draft. The bears will probably be picking in the top 10 next year
     
  7. $P1

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    Better to get a franchise qb now than to hope you get one next year
     
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  8. Scblue

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    And they probably would have still been looking for a QB not as good as Fields. This isn't even close to mortgaging the future. I hate Pace, but this was a good move.
     
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  9. Illinihockey

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    you mean like trubisky? Guy has shown he can’t evaluate QB’s and you just let him trade another pick for one
     
  10. DirtBall

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    How can you be upset with this move? It makes no sense to me. A legit top 5 talent, at the most important position on the field was there for us (after a playoff year) in the first round. This is a coup.

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  11. spagett

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    Just hate him for signing Dalton for 10 mil
     
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  12. Illinihockey

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    he was the 4th qb taken in the draft, let’s not get carried away
     
  13. DirtBall

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    Patrick Mahomes was the third QB taken
     
  14. DirtBall

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    Nvmd, Watson was the third QB taken
     
  15. Illinihockey

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    and the 4th QB was Deshaun Kiser. I don’t hate the Fields pick, if a different GM made the pick I could stomach it. But the Bears will have 2 first round picks on their roster going into the 2023 season since 2015. That is now how you build a winning team
     
  16. DirtBall

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    Take it to the Rams thread
     
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  17. spagett

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    Guys what # QB was Tom Brady taken?
     
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  18. DirtBall

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    Justin ‘Soldier’ Fields imo
     
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  19. Illinihockey

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    Fields profiles to what they wanted Trubisky to be. Mobile QB that can run the read option and throw accurate deep balls
     
  20. The Fuck Lion

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    Pace landed the 2nd best player in the draft.

    And he still isn’t a good GM.
     
  21. DirtBall

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    Two true statements
     
  22. Bankz

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    100% agree. He just saved his job.

    Fields is legit. This is a fantastic trade.

    I hope we move down tomorrow and pick up a few more selections. Would love to nab a WR and OL tomorrow night. Rondale Moore / Terrence Marshall / Rashod Bateman + Liam Eichenberg / Dillon Radunz / Teven Jenkins

    Some combo of those guys and I would be in heaven
     
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  24. DirtBall

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    Who are you guys targeting tomorrow? I’m Fucking psyched with Fields and our divisional mates shitting themselves.
     
  25. spagett

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    Our OL sucks balls

    Add there or if Marshall falls, draft him
     
  26. spagett

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    That probably has so much more to do with the Rodgers news
     
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    Impossible to live down trading a haul to move up one spot. Getting mindfucked that hard by a single team. Should never happen. Oh yeah, and the fact he did all of it for Trubisky. Never living that down. Fields needs to be a HOF just to call it a push and get him back to even lol.
     
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    Please take good care of him, friends.
     
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  29. Mr. Bean

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    Big fan of this move, looks even better when you look at next years QB class. I believe that’s what drove up the market value of the 5 QBs in this class, and when you consider the Bears got him at 11, that is a fucking steal IMO
     
  30. ohbluefan

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    Nagy and Pace have shown absolutely no ability to evaluate QB’s nor develop them, let’s not get too carried away about what a great deal this was.

    I’m optimistic but also nervous as fuck about Pace and Nagy actually turning fields into a franchise QB.....time will tell.
     
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  31. Mr. Bean

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    Don’t let Nagy spoil this for Bears nation

    This transcends Nagy and Pace. Bears could have traded down, gone 2-14 and been in position for ... Sam Howell next year. This was a major bargain IMO and Fields will be in his prime with another staff
     
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  32. herb.burdette

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    Fields took sacks at Ohio State instead of getting rid of the ball. That’s really the only criticism I have. He also rarely threw picks, 41/3 and 22/6 TD/int ratios the last two years, which is why he held the ball too long.

    His arm strength, accuracy, and speed are elite.

    Don’t let anyone in Chicago know he’s a vegan.
     
  33. ndpat3130

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    I suppose the question now is whether these buffoons will be launched if and when it becomes clear that they aren't capable of developing Fields or putting the right pieces around him to be successful. History says no but we'll see. At least the Bears are closer to the Super Bowl now than they were yesterday before the draft.
     
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  34. spagett

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    McCaskey is a cuck

    He'll kick the can until fans are ready to kill him

    I was kind of looking forward to bears fans calling for his head this season, because there was going to be zero excitement from fans until Fields was picked
     
  35. Mr. Bean

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    Yeah i had zero interest in this football team until that pick
     
  36. bakonole

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    Article from The Athletic.
    I have a couple buddies of mine who have been Bear fans since we were youngsters, they're fired up for Fields. Good luck to you guys.


    Greenberg: Is Justin Fields proof that God might actually love Bears fans?
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    Twice in the span of an eight-minute conversation with reporters Thursday, Justin Fields put his faith in the almighty.

    “I’m the kind of guy that thinks that everything happens for a reason, so I think this is God’s plan for me to be a Bear,” he said.

    “God has a different plan for me,” Fields said a little later, regarding how quarterback-needy teams passed on him for the likes of Zach Wilson and Trey Lance.

    Normally, I’d make a crack here about Old Testament vengefulness or biblical lessons about suffering. What did Fields do to deserve this?

    But maybe he’s on to something and it was Bears fans whom God was testing all these years. After all, what else could explain their sacrilegious record of quarterbacking these past, uh, 70 years?

    I don’t know if there was a cosmic plan for Fields to end up in Chicago. All I know is this is the most exciting development in a long, long time. Trading for Khalil Mack was something special, but the Bears have had their share of star linebackers. This pick has franchise-changing potential. Fields has the ability to give the Bears a weapon like they’ve never had before.

    In two seasons as a starter at Ohio State, Fields threw 63 touchdowns and only nine interceptions. He’s second in career touchdown passes and fourth in total touchdowns (79) in Columbus. If he had a full 2020 season instead of just eight games, those numbers would be unmatched. Instead of wowing GM Ryan Pace with a losing performance in the Sun Bowl, Fields torched Clemson in a playoff game this past January, connecting on 22-of-28 passes for 385 yards and six touchdowns, despite incurring a rib injury in the first half. That injury slowed him down in a national championship loss to Alabama, but to many, his perseverance showed a toughness (and a medically aided pain tolerance) that is necessary to succeed in the NFL.

    Fields isn’t just a winner. He’s an exciting winner. My dime-store psychoanalyzing of Jay Cutler focused on all of the losing he did from college through his early years in the NFL. That couldn’t have been good for his psyche. For all of Cutler’s talent, something was missing. As for Mitch Trubisky, he played one full season as a starter for a mid-tier school.

    Fields comes in knowing what it’s like to play big games for a football factory. Does that mean he’ll succeed in the NFL? No. But given that he has the necessary physical gifts, it can’t hurt.

    This is also a historic pick of sorts for the Bears. This is only the second time post-merger that the team has drafted a Black quarterback and the first since 1977, when Vince Evans was a sixth-round pick out of USC. Evans had it put in writing that he would only play quarterback. Fields won’t have to do that.

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    Justin Fields knows what it’s like to lead a team in the spotlight. (Ken Murray / Icon Sportswire via Getty Images)
    While it’s not a good sign that you’re drafting a quarterback twice in four years in the first round, I have to give Pace credit for cleaning up his own mess in such dramatic fashion.

    Fields is a much better prospect than Trubisky, and no, I don’t care where the mock drafts had Trubisky ranked in 2017. Mock drafts don’t erase drafts that deserve mockery.

    Until Thursday night, Pace’s NFL epitaph was: He drafted Trubisky over Patrick Mahomes and Deshaun Watson. Now, we might be able to add “but he drafted Justin Fields four years later, so it all evened out.”

    And few were excited about the inexperienced QB from North Carolina four years ago. Remember when Trubisky was booed at the Bulls game? After the Fields pick was made, fans at the White Sox game started an impromptu “Just-in Fields!” chant without the selection being announced on the video board. Here’s hoping he works out better than Josh Fields, who was a former college QB himself.

    Maybe Justin Fields won’t be able to handle the broad-shouldered expectations before him, but there shouldn’t be any second-guessing this pick. Moving up from No. 20 to No. 11 was a no-brainer, and I’ve been told the Bears tried to move up even higher to get Fields. Instead of drafting the third-best (by a country mile) quarterback of the draft first, as they did in 2017, Pace drafted the second-best quarterback fourth. That is, I believe, what is described as good value. I’ve been covering the Bears long enough that I forgot it exists.

    There won’t be any dopey narrative about why the pick was made this time. Pace can’t see himself in Fields, who wasn’t a surprise success story in college. He was the No. 2 prep prospect out of Harrison High School in Kennesaw, Ga., second only to Trevor Lawrence. After one season at Georgia, Fields transferred to Ohio State and became a star on Ohio’s premier football team.

    In his voluminous NFL Draft preview, The Athletic’s Dane Brugler wrote about Fields’ strengths:

    Well-strapped together athlete who takes care of his body … moves with the fluid, composed feet of a former shortstop … shows a natural feel for timing, touch and accuracy on throws within structure … strong arm and shows the ability to drive the football, especially when he steps and torques through his hips … sturdy in the pocket … recognizes defensive back assignments and places the ball away from trouble on his throws … above-average stride speed and flashes a burst when he tucks and runs …

    Brugler also covered Fields’ weaknesses:

    Undeveloped field vision … locks onto his preferred read and doesn’t consistently find his second and third options (sometimes by design) … needs to be quicker eliminating things post-snap … stares down reads and doesn’t play with a consistent sense of urgency … needs to be better taking what the defense gives him instead of forcing throws … his passes lose life when attempting to throw off-balance … ball security needs work: holds the ball loose in the pocket and as a runner (12 fumbles over the last two seasons) … needs to do a better job of avoiding hits … benefited from an all-star cast around him (both players and play-calling).

    The strengths clearly outweigh the risks, and all of those supposed problems should get better with quality coaching. They certainly aren’t deal-breakers. Fields is, without question, a better pro prospect than Trubisky, who came into the NFL with known issues, like not being able to throw deep with any accuracy and not enough experience as a starter.

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    Can Justin Fields clean up his weaknesses with some time on the bench? (David Rosenblum / Icon Sportswire via Getty Images)
    The Trubisky experience soured fans, media, and let’s be honest, some of the players on the team’s decision-making and coaching. There was an outcry when the organization kept the status quo after last season. Deservedly so. Most GMs wouldn’t get a second chance after the Trubisky debacle. Matt Nagy was brought in to modernize the offense, and it looked as ineffective as ever. Cutesy play nicknames gave way to familiar stagnation. This pick isn’t a validation of George McCaskey’s and Ted Phillips’ patience. They still don’t know what they’re doing. But if Nagy is worth anything as an offensive coach, he has his chance to prove it with Fields.

    Fields being there for the taking was either divine intervention or just dumb luck. But as the saying goes, luck is just preparation meeting opportunity.

    While there wasn’t a lot of excitement from Bears fans coming into this draft, no one could’ve been surprised that Pace traded up. I would’ve been shocked had he traded down or stayed at No. 20. That Fields fell to No. 11 might not be anything more than a couple of other teams being lazy in their scouting biases. One league executive who had Fields slotted as the second-best QB in the draft wondered if some teams were discounting Fields’ success because of how fellow Buckeyes QBs Dwayne Haskins and Cardale Jones have fared in the NFL.

    “There’s definitely been a lot of criticism, but at the end of the day I feel like I know myself, I know how much work I’ve put in the game,” Fields said. “I know how much I love the game. I know how much I want to be great. It just comes a point in time when you have to cut all that criticism out.”

    If he’s anything like almost every other Bears quarterback in history, he’ll hear plenty more criticism as a pro, but maybe this time the team will stick to its plan and keep the rookie QB mostly on the bench this season. Andy Dalton should be more capable of starting for a season than Mike Glennon was in 2017, but people are still going to want to see the new guy play, and I’m not just talking about the media and the Grabowskis. Ownership and management are the ones who push those buttons.

    But this time, I hope prudence wins out and Fields sits for at least the majority of the season. And hopefully, for Bears fans, this time the quarterback of the future is worth the wait.


    Jon Greenberg is the lead columnist for The Athletic's Chicago coverage and The Athletic's founding editor. Previously, Jon covered Chicago sports for ESPN Chicago and wrote nationally for ESPN.com. Follow Jon on Twitter @jon_greenberg.
     
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  37. DirtBall

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    I still can’t believe that happened. Probably the most excited I’ve been since 2010 NFC Champ game morning.
     
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  38. Illinihockey

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    It’s about time teams being stupid meant a player fell to the bears
     
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    If Chicagoans ever have a good QB, they'll suck the skin of his dick
     
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    No Chicago bears fan should be upset today. fucking enjoy what went down last night. It was a home run. Plenty of time to be pissed at the staff/management down the road. Today we bask in the glory of Justin Fields
     
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    What are your remaining draft needs? Is WR a need in the next few rounds? Just trying to get a feel for what Fields may be working with in addition to Robinson.
     
  42. Bankz

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    Pace had a presser this morning, said he had three plans going into last night.

    1) Trade up for a QB (he did)
    2) Trade up for a non QB (what?!? I guess maybe Chase or Penie were options)
    3) Stick at 20 and make a selection


    This man hates to trade down in the first round... lol. For someone with an atrocious track record of making selections in the first you would think at some point he would allow that thought to marinate some.

    As I said about its all about the great move he pulled off... Justin Fields
     
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  43. Bankz

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    Bears have Robinson, Mooney (promising rookie year), Kmet as the main targets in the offense along with Monty and Cohen out the backfield.

    A wide out will be very high on the draft list. Rondale Moore could be a legit option as he and the Bears have had a few meetings in recent weeks. The also need to add and OL and CB.

    With so many R1 talents dipping into R2 because of the QB run I could see Chicago recouping some draft capital by moving down from 52. If not I think they take either OL or WR.
     
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    Some 2nd round talent I like at WR
    Marshall - LSU
    Moore - Purdue
    Wallace - Okie State
    Collins - Michigan
    Williams - Auburn
    Brown - UNC
    St. Brown - USC

    A later round flyer on Terry out of FSU would not be bad either if we move down.

    Some 2nd round talent I like at OT
    Jenkins - Okie State
    Radunz - ND State
    Cosmi - Texas
    Eichenburg - ND
    Mayfield - Michigan
    Brown - N. Iowa
     
  45. Illinihockey

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    Need to find a starting right tackle today
     
  46. DirtBall

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    If one of the first round OTs fall to 52 and then we take the best WR left in the third my erection may never come down.
     
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    Please get him an OL

    :ohnoes:
     
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    Our OL was actually pretty good last year. And it was a mesh unit for most of the season. We will probably add a OT early and maybe a OL later.