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Discussion in 'The Mainboard' started by StinkyP1nky, Oct 1, 2009.
FIRE POLES. FUCK.
get rid of everyone, this is malpractice.
I'm starting to convince myself that the Bears will only ever be good on accident.
I’ve been saying Poles is the main one that needs to go. This only adds to that.
And I wonder if he did that because he’s got a deal lined up to get a 2nd for JJ. Not sure unlike that trade off.
Yeah I don't get this. If we're in our competitive window it's understandable; if your 2nd rounder develops into a player like Sweat I'd be happy. This isn't like Claypool where there were question marks. We also have a dire need at DE.
But... we're not in our window. Hell, we're closer to restarting it with another QB in 6 months. Why give up the rookie deal+control? Hopefully we at least extended him but he'll be 30 by the time we're hopefully perennial contenders.
Given our track record we need these high picks cause we're guaranteed to whiff. I hate how pessimistic this franchise has made me.
Interesting. I get he's been hurt but he is better and younger than Sweat. Guess the reports of Poles not being sold on his health were true. It also does make me think he's negotiating from a position of weakness; at this point we don't NEED Sweat, he doesn't put us over anything. But a few extra wins makes Poles look good. Our 2nd will be high just like the Claypool trade, while the 49ers third probably won't be. Feel like we got played again.
A guy with 1 career interception isn't a player we need to break the bank over
I think this deal would suggest Poles thinks this roster is closer than we think it is to competing. I don't hate this deal like I did with Claypool.
I would also suggest this is probably a sign that Fields will return next year but the staff wont... But after the media narrative on Monday who really knows...
I think it was Big Ant that said after that game that Young had the most selfish and worst edge performances he can remember grading. Between that and the health/physical stuff I’m fine with staying away. Still not sure about this Sweat move until I see the new contract and what happens with JJ.
The nice thing is Claypool set such a low bar this has to look like a better 2nd rd trade….right?
1 career interception? Did you watch the game last week or....?
He's also 24 and a top 3 coverage CB in the NFL according to PFF.
The only thing this team is good at……being bad.
Seems quite a bit of incompetence going around
Just another banner day for this lovely franchise
At least make an effort? You don’t trade that high of a pick for a player unless you’ve talked to his agent and know what he wants
Jesus fuckin Christ I hate this franchise and it's owner
Right if that's truly the case this entire staff has to go. What a debacle.
I don't know why the fuck we were interested in the first place
We keep trading valuable picks for guys that cost much more than a draft pick and expect them to be as productive
Our team morale is fucking dog shit. Nobody wants to be traded here, Poles, you dumb bitch
Build a foundation and then trade. Right now we're a prison sentence
Shocked the league doesn't want to trade for a CB who doesn't make plays
come the fuck on... 43 games 1 INT.
He should thank the lord he played against a washed backup QB so he could pad those stats.
I don't think he's worth paying a bunch of money
Should've traded him for something
add another reason to why flus and this staff should all be fired.
McCaskey is such a fucking bitch for not allowing his GM to fire coaches during the season.
Stop for a moment and think about who's leaking this info...
It's pretty clear this isn't coming from Poles...
my point was surely Poles would have spoke to his agent to find out what he’s asking for
Poles is terrible but there's 0.0% chance he's terrible enough to trade a 2nd round pick when they're 2-6 for an expiring contract that he's not 100% certain they're going to extend.
Do we get a compensatory pick if he signs elsewhere? I have no idea how that works, just curious.
Either that or he's a double agent
Slap this on the Padme/Anakin meme generator
Poles has made some questionable moves but its on the talent evaluation side.
I think he made the right call to ship out Smith and replace him with the LBs this off-season.
From what I understand his team has a program that gives him a player value model and he's been very disciplined not to go over that value.
We saw it with Smith a couple FA targets and now JJ.
You seem to be pretty educated to the game, even if he doesn't sign a long term extension before the season ends, the Bears can Franchise or Transition tag him. He's going to be a Bear next season and hopefully they work out a long extension at some point.
Jenkins is another good player who’s gonna come up soon and it’s going to be a bad look for the franchise.
well he can take his cap flexibility to the unemployment line when the team sucks again because he keeps not signing good players.
Yep, nobody gets a pass when we’re going through one of the worst stretches in a long history of bad stretches. Poles may end of being great….hes gonna need to win some football games first.
Yeah it’s gonna be awesome watching a franchise like the Eagles or 49ers turn him into a Pro Bowler while we watch Caleb Williams get murdered every week. Sell the team.
Also the salary cap isn’t real. The saints have been like 60 million over the cap since 2009
From the PCs today it sounds like they plan on signing Sweat and tagging JJ.
The one we’ve been waiting on
Somewhere in the Diggs range isn't far off from what he's gonna get, imo.
Diggs got $19.4 AAV, I think JJ gets 15-17
Just front load deals for both of them and get them done.
Give him 50 mil this season and cut everyone else
Seems like Justin is close to returning.
probably next week
An early second round pick and 98 million dollars over 4 years for Montez Sweat is ass.
DEs making more money AAV than Sweat: Nick Bosa, Joey Bosa, TJ Watt.
That's the list.
None also came with a cost of a high 2nd round pick.
EDIT: Myles Garrett is 5 years 125 mil. Point stands.
I’ll wait till the exact numbers come out. If it’s front loaded and has some fake money on the back end it could be ok.
Does it matter? We have the most cap space in the league.