Chicago Bulls: Playing with house money

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  1. Bankz

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    He’s doing what he always does…

    We don’t own our 1st round pick this year.
     
  2. Illinihockey

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    we do if it’s top 4 but thanks for stopping by to say something dumb
     
  3. ohbluefan

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    If anything AK is the safest job in Chicago, Gar/Pax got to fuck around for what felt like 15 fucking years
     
  4. Bankz

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    To have a bottom 4 record you would have to have a massive fire sale. I don’t see that happening. Banking on a 2% chance seems dumb
     
  5. Bankz

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    So... I'm ready to eat crow on that tanking idea



    Add in the current drama between Zach and Billy and I don't see how this team gets on track. Our main trio has no desire to play defense and they are terrible on the court together.

    Caruso, DeRozen, Vooch probably all on the block?
     
  6. Clark W. Griswold23

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    LaVine isn’t a winning player. Let him be someone else’s problem.
     
  7. Bankz

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    The issue with the team isn't LaVine. It's DeMar and Vooch needing to occupy the same space on offense and neither being able to play with each other.

    I guess you can fault LaVine for being a shit defender but he puts more effort on that end than the other two. I think it's unfair to say he isn't a winning player. He's been on nothing but rebuilding/trash rosters his entire career.

    AK built a team that just doesn't fit well together. The sooner he changes gear the better.
     
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  8. Illinihockey

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    The team can’t shoot 3’s and isn’t athletic. That is a problem
     
  9. Clark W. Griswold23

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    Blow it up.
     
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  10. Bankz

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    Trade Vooch would be the first step. I applaud the front office for taking a swing with this roster. Now do the smart thing and sell and take another swing with hopefully top 2 pick in this draft.
     
  11. Illinihockey

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  12. ohbluefan

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    Just a ton of picks I imagine?

    Should have tried a package for KD, we’re stuck in NBA purgatory
     
  13. Beeds07

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    Sounds like Barrett and hopefully picks
     
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  14. Bankz

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  15. ohbluefan

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    Now the bulls have a disgruntled LaVine on their hands, none of this is gonna end well.
     
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  17. Bankz

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    Fuck this ownership group… nothing will ever change with them at the helm. Cheap bastards who are happy as fuck to be .500 and live in world to just make the play in.
     
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  20. spagett

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    Hoping my guy Ayo doesn't resign at this point

    Bulls are rudderless
     
  21. Beeds07

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    I’ve never been less interested in a sports team. Even the bad Bulls were a train wreck. This team is just meh.
     
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  23. Illinihockey

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    I’m so mad I bought my kids tickets for March as a Christmas present
     
  24. Beeds07

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    Outstanding
     
  25. theregionsitter

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    Jordan curse continues
     
  26. Sam Elliott

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    Is insurance at least covering his salary at this point?

    Could the Bulls petition for a salary cap exception?
     
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  27. Bankz

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    Let's hope we get some ping pong luck...
     
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  28. Illinihockey

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    God I hate them
     
  29. Beeds07

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    Ten seed if lucky
     
  30. Bankz

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    They have no other choice... You can't allow him to walk.

    You don't gain his cap space and you can't find someone who can do what he does for the cap we have left.

    DeMar is the guy that needs to be shipped out. Not sure what his market will be but that's the guy
     
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  31. Illinihockey

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    you actually can allow him to walk. This is an example of throwing good money after bad. This team is garbage and going nowhere. They should be looking to rebuild, not tread water as 10 seed
     
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  32. Bankz

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    You can argue they shouldn't have traded for him to make Zach happy. But the team they put together was sitting at the top of the eastern conference. Not to say they were going to be championship contenders but clearly with a healthy Melo this isn't a play in team.

    With that said they aren't going to tear this shit down. No way Jerry would OK shipping out Vuc, Demar and Zach. Like I said the best thing we could do is ship out Demar and see what Vuc, Zach and Patrick can do with better pieces around them including a legit PG since Melo isn't coming back.
     
  33. Illinihockey

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    how are they going to get a legit PG? They can’t sign one, they can’t draft one, are they getting one for demar? Feels unlikely. This team is fucked and they’re doing the paxton thing of prolonging the hell to try to save face
     
  34. Beeds07

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    If they run it back with PatBev instead of Lonzo in done.
     
  35. RoderickJaynes

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    They won’t resign patbev because there’s no way they’ll pay him what he wants. I’d guess Coby is their starting point guard next year
     
  36. Bankz

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    Coby played well be he isn’t a starting PG in this league. He would need to still improve to be someone you can trust. I love him off the bench.
     
  37. Clark W. Griswold23

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    Sign and trade Vucevic for a one/two year bad contract and a draft pick

    Try a trade package for Lavine with the Blazers for #3 and Shaedon Sharpe

    Trade Demar for a pick

    Let Patrick Williams, Coby White, Shaedon Sharpe, and either Scoot Henderson or Brandon Miller play next year. Suck the next two years and let Lonzo and whatever bad contracts you take back expire.

    Hit 2025 with cap space and good young players.

    This is the only way
     
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  38. Bankz

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    lol if you think this team is going to bottom out for the next 3-6 years. Not when you got a 20k seat stadium to fill.
     
  39. Clark W. Griswold23

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    I know but it’s the right move.
     
  40. Beeds07

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    I’d rather bottom out than win 35-38 games a year for the the foreseeable future. You’re probably right though. They aren’t a serious organization.
     
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  41. Sanjuro

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    Caruso is on a bargain salary for two more seasons. He was the best perimeter defender in the League last season and they should be able to get a decent first for him from a contender especially if they take in a marginal $10M annual contract.
     
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  42. Clark W. Griswold23

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    LaVine is -23 right now in a tie game. Get rid of his ass already.
     
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  43. Truman

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    Having a players only meeting after 1 game is laugh out loud funny
     
  44. Clark W. Griswold23

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    -39 now. That’s hard to do. Dude is worthless
     
  45. Sam Elliott

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    But it worked :gocho:
     
  46. Bankz

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    Patrick Williams has the biggest set of nuts i've seen in some time. He's asking for 200m... 200m gets you 21 minutes played 0-3 shooting, 3 rebounds and zero points.

    This fucking guy who be in the G league at this point.

    We fired Gar/Pax and somehow got worse at being mid.
     
  47. Beeds07

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    Trade his ass. The only downside is literally every Bulls big goes elsewhere and crushes.
     
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