Coffee snobs

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  1. BayouMafia

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    I enjoyed Coffee Collective but cancelled when my consumption couldn’t keep up with what they were sending.

    A coworker has a Creature Coffee sub and he likes it - they focus on Texas roasters - so if I get another subscriber I think I will try them out
     
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  2. Taques

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    like a cap of $1/oz
     
  3. DexterRutecki

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    If you drink a lot of coffee you can get some good deals on 5lb bags of Perc.
     
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  4. Jorts

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    Coffee Collective was great, but like you I ultimately canceled due to coffee accumulation & several quality, local roasters popping up in Jax.
     
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  5. AlternativeFactsRule

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    Local roaster is always the best answer.
     
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  6. pratyk

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    As someone said above, Happy Mug if you want to buy in higher quantities. SW Roasting and Redbird are decent bets as well and in a similar range of pricing. Check Reddit /r/coffee if you plan to order from these for more info.

    For a step up, George Howell has quite a few coffees at 14$ for 12oz. Not quite 1$/oz you mentioned
    but for the quality, it's solid pricing.

    I've got a sub from Trade and so far, I've liked the mix of roasters they've sent across.
     
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  7. FelipeG

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    Near the source or the source is nice especially if it's specialty beans.
     
  8. DuffandMuff

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    I only really started drinking coffee a couple years ago, but figure going out and paying for a pour over a few times a week isn't the smartest idea.

    With Prime day being tomorrow, I'm guessing (hoping) that I can get some of the pour over essentials at a decent price.

    Having said that, what should I be looking for? I think there have been some set up essentials for dummies in here, but I can't find it. Filters, grinder, water heater. My buddy has a funnel thing that just sits over his coffee mug. Guess that's an alternative to a Chemex or something else.
     
  9. ned's head

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    Budget?
     
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  10. DuffandMuff

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    Um good question. Haven't really thought about that. I'm guessing $50 isn't possible?
     
  11. ned's head

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    I bet I can manage something, but obviously quality would suffer.
     
  12. DuffandMuff

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    What's the most important component of a setup?
     
  13. Jorts

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    This should get you off to the races... there are other options, but this is probably the most economical, quality setup


    Scale


    Hario V60 Dripper


    Filters


    Bonavita Gooseneck Kettle


    Capresso Infinity Conical Burr Grinder
     
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  14. ned's head

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    Grinder, no doubt. Hand grinders get you better quality per dollar than electric, but if you go electric, I wouldn't mess with anything cheaper than a capresso infinity or any baratza.

    From there, I think a cheap kitchen scale is important, but those are less than $20. If you won't be using a gooseneck kettle, I'd get a clever dripper and call it a day.

    You could probably get all 3 of those for under $100 with some searching. Swap out the capresso for a porlex hand grinder, and you might get to 65-75?
     
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  15. DuffandMuff

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    Knew I should've saved my digi scale from my alleged drug dealing days.
     
  16. DuffandMuff

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    I was joking with my buddy that an electric grinder compromises the integrity and complexity of the bean. Is there any actual truth to that?
     
  17. Jorts

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    :roll: Scale is definitely a place you can cut costs, but the Hario is quality.
     
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  18. Jorts

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    This is a good starter set... Don't need the server, but all this is the same price as the previous v60 I posted
     
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  19. DollarBillHokie

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    I bought all the stuff to make coffee using an aero press the other day. $122.21 all in.

    Hario Ceramic Coffee Mill - "Skerton Plus"

    AeroPress Coffee and Espresso Maker - Quickly Makes Delicious Coffee without Bitterness - 1 to 3 Cups Per Pressing

    Bonavita BV382510V 1.0L Digital Variable Temperature Gooseneck Kettle
     
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  20. Jorts

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    Have that burr grinder & aero press at the office... grinder is quality, but grinding beans by hand sucks
     
  21. DollarBillHokie

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    Agreed, but it takes the exact same amount of time to grind as it takes for the water to heat up, so it’s not really an inconvenience.
     
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  22. DuffandMuff

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    That AeroPress seems too complicated for me.
     
  23. Jorts

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    It's not, but I wouldn't get it as your entry into being an in-home barista
     
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  24. DuffandMuff

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    Never thought of myself as a barista. Now I'll finally have a reason to wear this apron I got in Florence

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  25. ned's head

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    Good electrics and hand grinders can have the same grinding mechanisms, but you're paying for the motor and convenience with electrics. Great hand grinders at $200 would match a $1k electric.

    Also, the clever dripper is more foolproof than the aeropress and it makes a better cup imo
     
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  26. ned's head

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    It's amazing how much easier it is to use the lido over those smaller ones. Those things give me carpal tunnel
     
  27. Jorts

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    While the design emulates a pour-over, it's not.... it's merely a gimmicky French press, like the Aeropress

    Pour over options
    • Chemex
    • Kalita Wave
    • Hario v60
    • and knockoffs of these
     
  28. ned's head

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    He wanted cheap. To do pour over, you really need a gooseneck kettle, which I was trying to avoid.

    Not sure how an immersion brewer is gimmicky. The CCD is basically a french press without the sludge and an aeropress than can brew a full cup.
     
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  29. TYdeFan05

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    I think calling the clever dripper a gimmicky French press is somewhat inadequate. Primarily because it actually has a filter paper for fines rather just a mesh screen. Technique can help with sludge etc but they can make two different cups of coffee and also require quite a bit different grind sizes. The clever dripper also uses a very easy to find filter as opposed to some pour overs.

    For pour over style I’d all consider the bee house too which as far as the inspirational design I’d consider it as old or older than the others mentioned. For each brewing method availability of filters that don’t absorb too many oils or impart a bleach/natural flavor is important.

    In the end I like that all the options exist and can take the same beans and brew vastly different tasting coffee with varying levels of convenience and repeatability.
     
  30. DuffandMuff

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    There's thousand dollar electric grinders?
     
  31. The B1G Kucktis

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    The inverted AeroPress makes some good ass coffee.
     
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  32. Jorts

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    Valid point. Didn't consider this angle
     
  33. ned's head

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    Yeah, although the ones I've seen are geared towards espresso. That's a totally different game
     
  34. Jorts

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    Should have said gimmicky immersion brewer, similar to French press & Aeropress

    This 100%
     
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  35. pratyk

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    If you're looking to buy some reliable gear and want a grinder that will last you through the next few years (before you get the upgraditis bug), just go for a Baratza Encore (Refurbished sells for 99$ on their site. you'd be crazy to spend 70 bucks on a mediocre grinders like Capresso.
     
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  36. TYdeFan05

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    The slippery slope is going to the virtuosa because it can sorta do espresso grinds. Then six months later you’re sifting grinds from 8 different high end grinders doing a particle size distribution calculation while you’re installing a reverse osmosis system on your tap water. This, just like wet shaving or any other first world hobby, is a fun and expensive journey if you let it be. It’s one reason I don’t mind going plastic or used if it can be easily sterilized. When you pass it along to the next guy you can minimize losses.
     
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  37. DuffandMuff

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    I assume gooseneck is best due to how you're able to precisely pour the hot water over the grounds?
     
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  38. DuffandMuff

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  39. TAS

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    Yes. And you can control water temp
     
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  42. DuffandMuff

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    $300 hand grinders is beyond the cuntiness I knew was possible in the coffee world.

    Only grinder I've used was a shitty one back in college to grind up bud.
     
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  45. MODEVIL

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    Oh you are just getting started. Grinder is the key. I’ve got a Stagg kettle and use a kalita wave currently. Get beans from Arcade roasters in Riverside, CA and a subscription to collective coffee in Denmark.
     
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  46. DuffandMuff

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    I live down the street from Bird Rock Coffee Roasters here in San Diego, which has been a top micro roaster in the country before. Hopefully they’ll hold me over for a little.
     
  47. Lyrtch

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    aeropress is cheap, easy, and turns out good coffee

    mine at any point seems like it's going to fall apart, the plastic is so stressed looking, but it's hanging in
     
  48. Drew63

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    How are you liking the coffee collective sub?
     
  49. pratyk

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    I hear ya. I just ordered rhe niche grinder after stepping up from breville smart grinder pro to sette 270.

    For French press, pourovers and aeropress, it's hard to beat the encore. Virtuoso is pretty much the same, with an upgraded body with some steel components. The espresso grinding on virtuoso sucks tho from a consistency perspective. sette and vario are better bets.
     
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  50. TYdeFan05

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    The upgraded steel parts sent me to the Virtuoso (for pour overs and immersions). I have never been an espresso guy; it’s more work for a cup that’s gone too soon and it doesn’t hurt that I’ve never had a proper one to begin with. The few times I’ve had one none of the adjectives used to describe good espresso applied to what I was served.