Coffee snobs

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  1. Ball Gag Giorgio

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    espresso beans aren’t really a thing… just get beans within 5-21 days of roast date. Don’t buy any beans without a roast date. Don’t be scared of light or medium roasts.

    Get a .1 gram scale. AWS has a good, cheap one on Amazon. Acacia is cool too.

    Grind retention is a thing. Consider running a few grams through the grinder before grinding your weighed beans.

    there are so many variables with espresso…

    I would recommend getting a tamper that clicks when the appropriate pressure has been achieved. Reduces a variable when starting out.

    make sure you warm your cup and the the machine has had time to warm up before you pull your shot.

    look up WDT and RDT

    stir your espresso before you taste
     
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  2. pratyk

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    You worried about all the moving parts?
    — Not so far. Yes it’s a good bit of plastic but it’s pretty well made. I bought it with my Amex I think. So it should have some extended coverage hopefully?

    What’s your thoughts on the grinder alone?
    — the grinder is surprisingly good. Better than Commandante or Lagom Mini I’d say. It seemingly can do espresso grinds for medium to light medium but I haven’t tried it yet. Hopefully soon.

    Have you used the pods any?
    — yes - a few of them. They’re convenient but not that economical. It’s mostly for the missus so that it’s easy peasy for her to brew a cup while I’m not around.

    What kind of other dripper(s) did you use with it?
    — I used the Orea a few times but I’ve stuck with their Omni dripper.

    with the most recent update, I have 3 recipes saved up on the machine - 1 suited for light / ultra light washed, 1 for anerobics / naturals and 1 for iced coffee. It’s even more convenient now as this has taken away the need to have a phone around.

    i did 3D print a rig for a melodrip screen over the dripper to make the flow uniform.
     
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  3. AUShyGuy

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    Damn, what were HG1s going for back in the day?
     
  4. Drew Swinney Esq

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    Do not recommend Breville Smart Grinder Pro for espresso if you go electric. Get something in the range above that at least if it’s in your budget. Especially if you think you might take on light roasts shots after getting medium-dark roasts down.

    https://www.timemore.com/products/timemore-electric-coffee-grinder-sculptor-series

    I’ve been down between getting this or the one a step up, or the Xbloom. Think I’m sticking with the Xbloom.
     
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  5. ned's head

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    I always weigh post-grind, but you don't really get retention with hand grinders in my experience. Used to get a ton with my electric though
     
  6. Ball Gag Giorgio

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    $915 in early 2013 for the 83mm flat burr set.
     
  7. SpartanGA

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    I’ve enjoyed sette 270 grinder and Breville infuser for years. I thought about double boiler upgrade recently. But decided I love the lattes I make now. Wait for a machine to die at this point.
     
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  8. COVIDiskilingme79

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    Rate my coffee skills
     
  9. The B1G Kucktis

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  10. ashy larry

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  11. MODEVIL

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    His eyes look odd. Needed that milk drink. I like coffee to taste like coffee.
     
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  12. Drew Swinney Esq

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  13. Drew Swinney Esq

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    Xbloom studio has been ordered :chan:

    Lady’s reaction was “where are you putting all this” and “I’ll just throw out my nespresso then”

    Ask for forgiveness not permission
     
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  14. Irush

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    Anyone have good recommendations for a burr grinder that doesn’t cost too much?
     
  15. AUShyGuy

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    What kind of coffee ?
     
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  16. Drew Swinney Esq

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    Budget range?
    What brew method(s) are you using it for?
     
  17. Irush

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    nothing over 100 probably, I buy good quality stuff from local coffee shops for just doing drip coffee in my coffee ninja every morning
     
  18. Drew Swinney Esq

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    Baratza encore is a little over that range, but you can find deals. I used it for aeropress for a long time and it is solid. Has a fairly simple burr upgrade you can do later if inclined, which makes it functionally like the Virtuoso. It’s been around a long time and is probably still the best budget grinder.

    Probably not much experience in this thread with sub $100 burr grinders, but I would just pick something with name recognition and a good warranty if you do that way. Oxo, bodium, etc.
     
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  19. AUShyGuy

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    Doesn’t look like baratza sells refurb anymore. Sub $100 might be tough but for $150 the encore is so solid. If you get the upgrade itch you can buy the virtuoso burrs for it down the road.
     
  20. Ball Gag Giorgio

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  21. Jorts

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    I'd definitely budget the extra $50 for the Baratza Encore.
    • Future Proof: Can upgrade burrs down the road
    • Customer service superb & replacement parts readily available
     
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  22. Drew Swinney Esq

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    I still have my Encore going on about 10 years, upgraded from it about 4 years ago.

    I still use it for batch cold brew and take it on long vacations when I can/need. If my Niche broke I would be fine with it for a little while for everything but espresso.

    Apparently Baratza was bought by Breville a few years ago.
     
  23. ned's head

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    While I'm sure the encore is better, I really like the capresso infinity in the sub 100 space. Gifted mine to the in laws and it is still working great after 12 or so years.
     
  24. pratyk

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    enjoy! It’s a fun little machine. Here’s a list of crowdsourced recipes, although the app now shows shared recipes as well.
    https://false-fragrance-c1b.notion.site/xBloom-Recipes-9dd97f56dd2048259bd773ba13110c02

    I mostly use the Aviary / Ferran recipe with slight tweaks here and there.

    https://share-h5.xbloom.com/?id=xkPw3n6tW9sUBUHBkRcysA==
     
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  25. DuffandMuff

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  27. ned's head

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    I'd be curious to hear about the watermelon. I almost bought it last order but decided to go with some gesha instead
     
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  30. John McGuirk

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    Great website if you’re into the fine details and science behind it. Warning, it gets very dorky

    About to try the V60 recipe with a Sey Ethiopian that I just cannot dial in
    https://coffeeadastra.com/
     
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  31. Jorts

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    The biggest game changer for me, mentioned on the site, has been the utilization of distilled + Third Wave Water instead of filtered water. It’s made a dynamic difference to my brews across all methods
     
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  32. John McGuirk

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    Going to give third wave a try. Always have trouble extracting the brighter flavors
     
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  33. AUShyGuy

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    Depending on your local water, it’s massive. My water wasn’t too bad pH and TDS wise but it was still noticeable.

    I didn’t mind the added cost so much as have to pay more attention to water usage. I love dumping a bunch of heated water into my switch. With 3rd wave I was measuring water in instead of using 900ml every go.
     
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  34. Jorts

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    Yeah, I'd been using filtered water - almost immediately noticed the improvement. I'm definitely more aware of water waste, due to the minimal, but extra cost.
     
  35. AUShyGuy

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    And it’s really more running out of packets/distilled water faster than cost but you get the idea
     
  36. ned's head

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    You can make the tww packets pretty cheaply/easily iirc. I never really noticed a difference...I didn't even make it through a box
     
  37. Jorts

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    haha, definitely. Mostly the distilled water - started just buying 2-3 each trip to Publix, to avoid running out
     
  38. Tiffin

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    Never been in this thread, probably never will be, although I enjoy a good cup. Just reading this page was like a different language.
     
  39. AUShyGuy

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    Start with whole beans and a cheap burr grinder with whatever non-kurig machine you got

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  40. Drew Swinney Esq

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    We can get you started just improving whatever brew method you currently use, and probably won’t cost too much, then slowly

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  41. Drew Swinney Esq

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    Where’s the homemade tww recipes?

    You all keep them for different roast levels?
     
  42. pratyk

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    I like to dilute TWW for espresso at least. Full stick of TWW is too hard imo. I use lotus drops for pour over.

    theres a website with water recipes I have bookmarked on my computer. I’ll post it here when I’m at my desk.

    if you really want to go down a rabbit hole, Gagne’s physics of filter coffee is very well regarded. I have it on my kindle but never managed to make a dent
     
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  43. Tiffin

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    I'll stick to my drip machine for now and enjoy my occasional Onyx visits in NWA. I will for sure eventually move into the poor over game.
     
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  44. ned's head

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  45. Drew Swinney Esq

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    Are you using whole beans and grinding before you brew? If so, with what grinder?
     
  46. Tiffin

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    Nope
     
  47. Drew Swinney Esq

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    Whole beans and even a cheap burr grinder will help you get the most from those Onyx beans with the same dripper. Grinding right before brewing is ideal.

    Would be a big difference :twocents:

    Or you could spend a little more go ahead and get a grinder that would be ready for pour over too.
     
  48. Tiffin

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    Oh I'm sure. There's a place in town that uses the Onyx beans. A couple local roasters as well. I've just enjoyed some of their special beans when I've visited. We are moving late spring, so by summer I'll be ready to start making some upgrades i think.
     
  49. DuffandMuff

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    Buddy is visiting New York and just sent me a pic this morning from sey. What are the odds!
     
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  50. Jorts

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    Just opened my second bag of their stuff. Big fan