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Discussion in 'The Mainboard' started by The Goat, Apr 10, 2015.
Technically Kanter was in college
yeah he had someone going to class for him
damn, thought he was going to go to UM too
Tough break #Auburn Tigers
Hard to compete with that deal. We can pay only so much. $500K plus a shoe deal is just tough to overcome.
I guess we're going to have to win 25 games without him again
Wild that Auburn basketball is now competing with the NBA in terms of salaries. That's more than we paid Cam
Listen here bucko, if you have facts about a violation, send it to [email protected]. If not, please do not fucking slander these young men or insult their families I am a veteran of the Gulf War and I will shit down your fucking throat
Don't how true it is but I listened to a Memphis podcast and they said the g leagues long term goal is to create sort of a g league select team for high school kids that want to go pro. They said they would train for a year and play exhibition games against g league teams. Honestly seemed like a pretty brilliant idea to me that solved multiple issues. It'd bring more relevancy and eyeballs to the g league, allow the nba to keep one and done rule and please those that want players to be able to go pro out of high school.
This makes zero sense to me.
- How do exhibition games bring relevancy or eyeballs to the G League?
- Why would the NBA pay that kind of money for HS kids to play in exhibition games?
- Why would the NBA prefer to keep the 1 and done, but also bring in the best HS kids in the country to play in exhibition games no one is going to see instead of getting free publicity by those same players playing in front of millions of people in college?
They're already doing the third one, so maybe it really is their plan. I just don't see how it benefits the NBA to do it in the long term. There's no reason to keep the one-and-done rule now that they have the G League where it is.
Here's the details. It absolutely brings relevancy to the g league because these kids have huge brands and and will draw eyeballs, not college basketball eyeballs but the games we'll get at least decent attendance and you'll be able to sell a tv package of those game or at least sell online streaming packages. Just look at the hoops summit, mcdonalds game and Jordan brand game every year. Silver and players have cried about the ncaa and want kids to have the ability to go pro while front office and owners want the college year because of branding and evaluation. It does sound like this is a bridge to eventually eliminating the one and done rule but if it goes well I bet the one and done rule stays in place.
Here we go
I don't think the "brands" these kids have are as big as you do in terms of that level of interest, but maybe I'm wrong there. I don't see people paying to watch online streams of exhibition games.
I just don't see the benefit from the NBA perspective and think the league benefits far more from kids either going to college, or by lifting one-and-done and allowing the teams to develop players in their own system out of HS. This sort of middle ground seems stupid to me, with the only benefit being cutting off leagues in Australia and elsewhere as options.
You finally landed in the right place with your last sentence. It is becoming more common for top high school players to go play internationally and they are trying a new way to get a handle on it before they lose control of it.
Will it work? Probably not. But they are trying to proactively address a growing issue.
I'm glad for the players they don't have to go to Australia if they want to get paid. I don't think that stuff has worked out for most people who have tried it, as I stated earlier this week. Offering kids an alternative to that is good. Actively recruiting them away from CBB is where I just don't get it, because ultimately I think the NBA benefits from kids playing in college far more than it will benefit from whatever this becomes.
Listening to the woj pod right now, he said the nba has long wanted the top Americans players in their system ASAP. I also think they are missing the value college brings, but the nba seems determined to try it this way.
Long term you’ll see some, not all owners, push for soccer like youth academies for NBA teams. I know Cuban has already endorsed it.
I think that's a long way off if the owners are still this reluctant about changing the rule that won't allow HS kids to enter the league. If they don't want to draft HS kids, I'm not sure why they'd sign up for bidding wars for teenagers.
They can still have a rule that the academy kids can’t sign their 1st pro contract until they’re 18/19.
It would be more about long term development and getting teenagers out of the garbage AAU scene and into a highly structured setting. The NBA team that developed them would just hold those players’ rights.
But again this is a ways down the road if ever happening.
From Todd's standpoint. You aren't as valuable as Green, and your performance against tougher competition than over seas or college is essentially your draft tryout. If you aren't a star, and playing that level of competition exposes your game, and lowers your draft stock, is the couple hundred thousand potentially worth just cruising through college basketball, and cashing out as a higher draft pick?
I feel like in a lot of cases, the NBA having less information on you could be beneficial. Cam Reddish was by all accounts a disappointment in college, and still went in the lottery. Struggling in college will still leave NBA GMs with belief they can fix you. Would Fultz have went #1 if NBA developmental coaches spent a year with him, and GMs had more information on him?
From Woj's story on who they'll be playing:
Green is committing to become part of a yearlong developmental program with G League oversight that will include professional coaching, top prospects and veteran players who will combine training and exhibition competitions against the likes of G League teams, foreign national teams and NBA academies throughout the world, sources said.
The season could include 10 to 12 games against G League teams that wouldn't count in standings, sources said. The primary objective will be assimilation and growth into the NBA on several levels -- from playing to the teaching of life skills.
How competitive are games going to be that don't count?
I’d assume very.
Considering they’ll be the most followed and scouted game on g league teams schedule, they will be very competitive. These are guys fighting for their careers.
I think Todd was going get exposed any where he went, to maximize his draft stock he’s someone that needs 2-3 years of development but wants to be a one and done. He’s the type that would be best off just training and not being put into any game situations imo.
Take out the $500k, and none of that other stuff is better than playing in college. And I'm not suggesting the $500k is no big deal or anything. It's enough to get a lot of people to go that route. But let's not pretend like most people would prefer to practice and play exhibitions that may not even be on TV in front of what is likely small crowds over playing major CBB in front of sold out buildings and millions of TV viewers.
Wonder how money from sponsorship deals will differ from someone going to college vs g league
Seems like you'd get more exposure playing college
I think Green already has some kind of sponsorship deals based on what is out there and people saying the overall package is over $1M.
This is a big change from a week ago
All these opponents are going to be fighting for a spot on an NBA roster, of course they are going to be fucking competitive.
You have a lot more limited practice time in college. The college coaches are generally not focused on developing players for the pros, their focused on developing players that will best help them win games. And that scholarship is good for anytime, so they don’t have to go be taking classes during their prime developmental time.
That’s not even to mention the bullshit that’s forced on academia to give these college players easy passes in class to keep them eligible. Say what you want about what happened at UNC but that was a gross injustice to the players and they sure as hell aren’t the only school doing that shit.
Or the bullshit of having the athletics staff telling them they can’t take specific majors or classes they want to take because it’s going to interfere with athletics. They’ll be able to take the classes and majors they want when they want on their own schedule without having someone else dictate it to them.
When did I say todd would be massively impactful player at um. The kid has insane skills for a kid his size but his shot selection and motor are horrific. It’s going take a bit to put it all together, he would have had some crazy flashes though. OTOH Josh Christopher is a conference player of the year contender from the jump.
Givony makes it see as if Todd was never going to college. Had been trying to work out an NBL deal, but the pandemic had things fall through.
People have been saying that for a few years
That's been the talk before committing to UM even.
NewIf we lose another stud to the G League, it sure makes me wonder if bammer doesn't have someone funding some of that money. It's nothing to them and it hurts us and anything to hurt us is good. This kind of crap has never happened before to anyone yet it may happen to us twice in the same year.
Football fans. Just can’t do anything about them.
I'm curious to see how this program will impact the OAD rule. If it's successful, I could see the NBA and NBPA agreeing to keep the OAD rule in place and force kids into college or a year in this program. I could even see them expanding the OAD rule further out and making the draft age requirement older, forcing more kids to use this pathway program.
Hope it works. CBB wont lose any luster because 20 kids or whatever go pro every year.
dontrez styles announcing for unc tomorrow