Colorado Football: Dorrellevant

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  1. Walt Disney

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    give us the coordinator hotboards
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  2. Cornfed Buffalo

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    Think anyone will come with him off the current staff?
     
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  3. CUgator

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    You'd think at minimum, he'd take an analyst or two and give them an on field role.
     
  4. Cornfed Buffalo

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    Jay Johnson is an interesting name
     
  5. Walt Disney

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    People seem to think he could take an assistant S&C guy and possibly Jay Johnson, analyst that used to be an OC and seems like a great coach imo
     
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  6. TDintheCorner

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    This is who I thought he would take with him once his name was mentioned with various jobs.

     
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  8. Cornfed Buffalo

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    https://cubuffs.com/news/2018/12/5/tucker-named-head-football-coach-at-colorado.aspx
     
  9. gowolverines8

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  10. TDintheCorner

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    If I've learned anything from the Richt > Kirby transition it's this: give him whatever the hell he wants.
     
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  11. Cornfed Buffalo

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  12. CUgator

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    I’d take 6-6
     
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  13. jbr

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    Gonna start 5-0 again
     
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  14. Would be dope if he could get Tee Martin on board in a non playcalling role
     
  15. Cornfed Buffalo

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  16. CUgator

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    Pretty crazy that guys take jobs like this sight unseen.Though I'm sure he saw pictures and maybe a virtual tour or something like that.

     
  17. CUgator

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    "This is a no excuse program, as of right now"
     
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  18. Cornfed Buffalo

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    Good PC.

    If we keep a bunch of these ACs we can just start looking for our next coach. Bush league shit.
     
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  19. CUgator

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    I feel like there’s no way he would have touched this job knowing any assistants (or just a number of the whole) would be forced on him.
     
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  20. Cornfed Buffalo

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    Im likely overreacting but I just can't wrap my mind around anyone other than Chev or Drake.

    Hagan - see depth chart
    Roper - seems pretty generic
    Bernardi/Adams - lol
    Brown/Ambrose - secondary got worse this year.
    Els - never liked him. Doesnt seem to recruit.
    Wilson - meh. Get some SEC Deer Antler dealer.
     
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  21. Cornfed Buffalo

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    Good to see the old lunatic still has a way with words

    :doge:

    Glad we let Mel sign before letting McCartney talk
     
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  22. littletonbuff

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    If CU really wanted to keep Hagan around (and more importantly, Coach Tucker agreed to it - only shit programs force hires, whether they be assistants or in operations, on a new HC IMO), he seems like he would be a good candidate for moving back into an off field role, kinda like he held before under HCMM (he was Director of Player Personnel from 2013-2015 IIRC).

    As for the other assistants...
    • I'm for keeping Chev, though probably as a Co-OC at most (with someone else, ideally with more experience, that Coach Tucker brings in from outside)
    • I am largely for keeping Drake unless Coach Tucker has someone better in mind
    • Maybe Roper (unless Coach Tucker can find an upgrade, which I'd gladly take given the importance of a quality QB coach)
    • I would think Coach Tucker will likely part ways with all of the other assistants
    Definitely. Maybe he'd be a good name to pair with Chev as the more experienced Co-OC I referenced above (with Johnson having final say on play calling / game planning) or as a QB coach if Roper is not retained?

    In looking over stories about him online, the other thing that becomes apparent is that we really need to step up our game when it comes to our Quality Control positions and other off field support staff roles. Those positions/roles have been very important in helping a lot of premier programs maintain their edge over other programs (since there is no cap by the NCAA on how many you can hire, unlike on field assistants).
     
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  23. CUgator

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    Cringe
     
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  24. CUgator

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    He better be getting demoted.

     
  25. CUgator

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    So Chiv and Hagan staying. I hope Drake is the only other guy he's even considering keeping.
     
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  26. CUgator

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    #Georgia Bulldogs tell us about our new OC, and please give us Dan Lanning. Thanks.
     
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  27. Rainbow Brite

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    Brilliant offensive mind. Not sure he is the best in game play caller, but in terms of creating an offensive game plan, dude is about as solid as they come. His offenses set all kinds of records playing against group of 5 competition, which shows he is really good at finding and exploiting weaknesses of the defenses he plays. The offense he coached at Minnesota went 9-4, was 4th in scoring offense. Solid hire and good coach. No idea on his recruiting abilities.
     
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  28. Rainbow Brite

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    BOOM. Go Dawgs
     
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  29. Walt Disney

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    we were pretty excited when we hired Jay

    great hire imo

    hth

    Tell Mel to go away now imo
     
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  30. Cornfed Buffalo

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    Kinda bummed Lanning said no.
     
  31. Rainbow Brite

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    That was a big win for us because he is key to recruitment of Nolan Smith and Nakobe Dean. Think most of us expected Mel to try to raid the staff and would probably get a couple of people to follow him. Most of us assumed if offered, Jay Johnson would follow.
     
  32. CUgator

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    He rumored to get promoted to DC?
     
  33. Rainbow Brite

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    We aren't hearing anything like that on our end. None of our major DB targets are committing on ESD, so I think Kirby will take his time to hire the right DB coach. If we promote from within, it will like be Glenn Schuman, our ILB coach. Although there is a belief that we are waiting until the end of the NFL season to make a run at Derrick Ansley with the Raiders to come in as a DB coach and DC.
     
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  34. Cornfed Buffalo

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    Chev/Hagan/Drake/Els staying?

    Meh.
     
  35. Cornfed Buffalo

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    OC/QB - Johnson
    OC?/WR - Chiv
    RB - Hagan
    OL
    TE
    DL - Drake
    LB - Els
    DB

    SC - Wilson

    :angrycorn:
     
  36. Cornfed Buffalo

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    Hopefully all this money was saved for an elite OL coach
     
  37. CUgator

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    Els staying? Come on.
     
  38. aspenbuff

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    Tucker's entire career has been east of the Mississippi and even though he's coached under some outstanding coaches with fairly big coaching trees, those are all east of the Mississippi too. Chiv and Hagan are our best California recruiters so it makes some sense to keep them on given how important California is for our recruiting. Seems the message is clear: recruiting is going to be a major focus, as it should be.
     
  39. Cornfed Buffalo

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    Agreed but fuck Ross Els. I'm fine with the other 3. I know the players like him but what has he recruited? Isn't the JC LB a question to come now?
     
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  40. CUgator

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    Good with this

     
  41. Cornfed Buffalo

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  42. Daniel Ocean

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    I went to the same high school (for a bit) as Hagan. Had to leave because I lived on the wrong side of the 110 freeway. Was a gang issue not a wrong school issue.
     
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  43. He's a good coach and a solid recruiter
     
  44. The hell is your issue with Els? Special teams outside of Blackmon were fine and that was a MM issue.
     
  45. Cornfed Buffalo

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    Husker stench and what has he recruited?
     
  46. littletonbuff

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    With the news that Coach Tucker will be retaining Chev/Hagan/Els/Drake and hiring Jay Johnson as OC, that leaves him with five other on field positions to fill.

    I'll be very curious to see how Coach Tucker spreads those out / which position groups (if any) he intends to assign multiple coaches towards.
     
  47. ElCunado

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    I’m good with retaining those 4. Thought Els did a really good job actually. Think Drake will flourish as a recruiter under HCMT. Chev took a demotion which is good. Hagan is Hagan. Hopefully recruiting expectations will be increased.

    Now break the bank on a OL/Asst. HC.
     
  48. littletonbuff

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    Given some of our struggles there in recent years, what would people think of taking a page out of the Denver Broncos' playbook and hiring two OL coaches (one for working with interior OL and the other to work with the tackles)?

    You could group TE's in with WR's for passing drills and then have them go work with the tackles during practice periods more focused on blocking (plus you could assign a GA to work with our TE's as well) since that'd leave the staff without someone specifically assigned to the TE's & H-backs.

    I'm just throwing this out there as an idea FWIW, I have no idea whether it's something actually being considered.
     
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  49. Husker stench is a stupid reason to dislike him as a coach. He did a good job here, that's what matters. Can take a look at his recruit list on 247.
    Yeah that.
     
  50. Cornfed Buffalo

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    Pell, Smith, Moore(quit) and Allen(grades won't make it). :idk: