Falcons - The Magicla Turnaround

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  1. Gaknight

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    They are fucking high
     
  2. Clown Baby

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    I'll take Carlton. Rashede has turned into a solid player but I don't want that same headache
     
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  3. Clown Baby

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    For a 29-year old scheme dependent (ducks) corner who would be our #2. I honestly think Collins will continue to develop into a really nice player for us and Alford will get to play more nickel
     
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  4. BigRed

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    I would be pleasantly surprised if Taco is there at 31 and Freeney there at 62.
     
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  5. Jake Scott

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    Rob Rang today:

    31. Atlanta Falcons
    Budda Baker, FS, Washington: After surrendering a Super Bowl-record 466 passing yards to Tom Brady, no one should be surprised if the Falcons opt to reinforce the secondary. At just 5-10, 195 pounds, Baker does not have ideal size but Dan Quinn has previously been willing to overlook that at free safety with the 5-9, 185-pound Ricardo Allen currently starting in Atlanta. Quinn also previously worked with Earl Thomas (5-10, 202) in Seattle. Baker has more range and quickness than Allen, projecting as a traditional centerfielder who can drop down to help at nickel, as well.

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    Budda Baker looks like Dan Quinn's next center fielder. USATSI
     
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  6. Clown Baby

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    I'm cool with it as long as we take an end in R2
     
  7. Jake Scott

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    I think we'd have to get a guard, personally.
     
  8. Clown Baby

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    I just don't know if there's any separation between any of the guards in this draft. Feeney seems to be pretty good but is there really that big of a difference between he and Elfrin or Dorian?
     
  9. Jake Scott

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    Maybe not. That's a good point, but I think you need to get a guard that can play immediately/no-brainer type. Maybe there isn't one.

    I really want a pass rusher too.
     
  10. Clown Baby

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    Yeah and if we're being honest, guard is the biggest need because we have to replace Chester whereas we just want to upgrade over Allen and pass rush in general.

    I'd really like Lamp to fall but I doubt it happens
     
  11. Jake Scott

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    Could we take Lamp in the first and trade back up for Baker in the 2nd? Or is that not worth it?
     
  12. Clown Baby

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    Look how far we've come!

    Everyone keeps talking about us as if we're in win now mode which I think is crazy. Quinn has laid the foundation for what can be a perennial contender. We could always use more depth but if we can swing our 3/4th rounder to move up in the second, I'm all for it.
     
  13. Jake Scott

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    I would give up the 4th rounder easily to move up for Baker. We need that 3rd though.
     
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  14. Clown Baby

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    I think we're overlooking the need for a run stopper too because Brady carving us up (without Trufant!) is fresh on everyone's memory
     
  15. Clown Baby

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    Ideally, this is my order of need: guard, safety, d-lineman/situational pass rusher, tight end
     
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  16. Jake Scott

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    :like:
     
  17. BigRed

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    I agree with the order, but safety and pass rusher are a close call for me, so I could go either way. After TE, I would think linebacker would be nice to stack up on for depth.
     
  18. Gaknight

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    The NFL back loading our schedule with NFC South teams should keep us rested for the playoffs.
     
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  19. Jake Scott

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    Falcons looking to move up from 31st spot
    Posted: 7:57 p.m. Thursday, April 20, 2017

    FLOWERY BRANCH —
    The Falcons have heavily scouted the pass rushers who’ll be available for the upcoming NFL draft, which is set to be held Thursday through Saturday in Philadelphia.

    The Falcons hold the 31st pick and Missouri’s Charles Harris and Tennessee’s Derek Barnett will be long gone.

    However, the Falcons believe there will be opportunities to move up into the 20s to land one of the “handful” of players they’ve targeted.

    “I think the reality is that there will be opportunities to move up into the 20s, it’s there,” Falcons general manager Thomas Dimitroff said on Thursday. “I say that because there are going to be some interesting opportunities I believe.

    “We’ll look at opportunities.”

    The Falcons have been aggressive in the past. Dimitroff traded back into the first round in 2008 to land tackle Sam Baker. He moved up 21 spots to select wide receiver Julio Jones in 2011 and he moved up eight spots to select cornerback Desmond Trufant in 2013.

    “(Falcons head coach) Dan (Quinn) asked me the other day, have you ever moved back?,” Dimitroff said.

    Just once, last year from 50 to 52.

    “To move up in the 20s, there will be opportunities there,” Dimitroff said. “There are some interesting candidates that will be around there in the early parts of the 20s.”
     
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    Packers, Pats, Cowboys will be tough but fuck yeah at getting the rest of the teams in the NFC North and AFC East

    Because they suck
     
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  23. Clown Baby

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    Oh TD, you beautiful son of a bitch
     
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    I think Lombardi is full of shit but if for some reason Reuben Foster is available at 31, we'd better take him.
     
  26. Gaknight

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    He's a guy I would trade up to get
     
  27. Jake Scott

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    lol it's not happening but if he's there, we're drafting him.
     
  28. Gaknight

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    God he would thrive here.
     
  29. Clown Baby

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    Lombardi's tweet said teams picking 33-45 need to be comfortable with him. Fuck that, if he's there at 31 we need to sprint to the podium.
     
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  30. Doc Louis

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    In a draft where a mediocre UNC quarterback is getting so much hype, it seems like a chance he could be available. But also likely to go one or two picks before us
     
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  31. BudKilmer

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    Players I would be cool with us picking at 31 (obviously if Foster is there and we don't sprint to the podium, I'd poop in TD's kale smoothie)

    Jordan Willis
    Charles Harris
    Takarist McKinley
    Hassan Riddick
    Forest Lamp (don't think he'll be there)
    Cam Robinson (To play RG)
    Dion Dawkins (love him at G)
    Josh Jones or another safety (maybe the tall one from UConn who blistered the combine?)

    Guys I would be cool with at the bottom of the 2nd
    Dorian Johnson (OL Pitt)
    Demarcus Walker
    Marcus Maye
    Justin Evans

    If we can get a pass rusher, OL and safety in the first 3-4 picks, I'd be estatic. Taking an OL in the 2nd and 4th wouldn't bother me, nor would taking a pass rusher in the 4th like the heathen DE Hendrickson from FAU, or the interior DL from CHarlotte who can go inside and out like Michael Bennett did for Quinn in seattle.

    I have no real interest in Taco Charlton or TJ Watt who I see mocked to us a lot.

    I haven't followed a ton of draft coverage so you guys please tell me how wrong I am, and I look forward to cursing TD no matter who we pick.
     
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  32. Clown Baby

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    I like all of the names at the top. I'd bump Dawkins and Jones down though because I think they'll be available into the second (and the only real safety I'd want in the first is Budda).

    I also hate the idea of taking Watt
     
  33. Clown Baby

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    Sounds like Brantley's stock is going to plummet btw
     
  34. Jake Scott

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    Saw that and you can now cross him off of our board completely. Art will not let that one happen.
     
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  35. Chipper>Jeter

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    I will burn down the new dome if he is available that late and we do not take him.
     
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  36. Clown Baby

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    Gotta love Arthur for not being the type of piece of shit owner who pretends to care about stuff like that
     
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  37. Clown Baby

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    I will be your accomplice if that's the case
     
  38. Jake Scott

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    :blessed: look who just fell off our draft board

     
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  39. Clown Baby

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    Damn, I hope we can makeup that one interception he would've provided
     
  40. Shu

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    Unreal speed we'd have.

    Jones is a stud.

    So is 59 (Campbell ?) .
     
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  41. Shu

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    Good.
     
  42. Clown Baby

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    We really are close to having a star studded defense. We need one more playmaker on the line (maybe Poe returns to form) but Grady, Vic, Jones, Campbell, Trufant, and Neal are all immensely talented.
     
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  43. Jake Scott

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    I really like Shede too. He seemed to start coming on late last season iirc. Wish he'd play well enough to get us to re-sign him but not well enough for him to think he can demand big money in free agency :loldog:

    I like Poole too. He was more than solid for an undrafted rookie.

    Need that stud pass rusher in the first round. We've got to find a consistent pass rusher. I like Vic but he disappears a good bit.
     
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  44. Clown Baby

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    Forgot about Poole. He was great this year. That's another reason why we need to stay the fuck away from Peppers. Between Neal and Poole, we already have players (better players) like him.
     
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  45. Jake Scott

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    We've got Collins and Alford. We need that S next to Neal and a pass rusher. Then we are set up for a long time.
     
  46. Clown Baby

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    I don't know why but I get the feeling that Quinn is committed to giving Ricardo a real shot to become that guy. But yes, a pass rusher not named TJ Watt pls
     
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  47. Jake Scott

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    I guess he's adequate. I still don't like him v much. If we draft TJ Watt I'll be pissed. But I was super pissed we drafted Neal. :justsayin:
     
  48. Clown Baby

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    I think it's because everyone thought we could've gotten Neal in the second. But we also thought we could get Jones in the 3rd. Clearly Quinn knows better than everyone.
     
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  49. Jake Scott

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    USA Today mock:

    31. Atlanta Falcons — Cam Robinson, OL, Alabama: The NFC champs didn't lose much this offseason, but starting G Chris Chester did retire. Robinson could more than fill that hole and maybe even kick out to tackle at some point if asked.

    CBSSports, Rob Rang Mock: (He's been fairly consistent with this pick iirc)

    31. Atlanta Falcons
    Budda Baker, FS, Washington: After surrendering a Super Bowl-record 466 passing yards to Tom Brady, no one should be surprised if the Falcons opt to reinforce the secondary. At just 5-10 and 195 pounds, Baker does not have ideal size but Dan Quinn has previously been willing to overlook that at free safety with the 5-9, 185-pound Ricardo Allen currently starting in Atlanta. Quinn also previously worked with Earl Thomas (5-10, 202) in Seattle. Baker has more range and quickness than Allen, projecting as a traditional center fielder who can drop down to help at nickel, as well.

    BleacherReport Mock:

    31. Atlanta Falcons: Forrest Lamp, OT/OG, Western Kentucky
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      There's not much the Atlanta Falcons need on offense or defense—Dan Quinn and Thomas Dimitroff have done a great job rebuilding the defense in the draft, and the offense is humming right along. But the interior offensive line is an issue—Chris Chester retired, and Alex Mack and Andy Levitre are getting up there in years.

      Forrest Lamp played left tackle at Western Kentucky, and he could be an Andrew Whitworth-style tackle, but he'd also be a good fit at guard in an expansive zone scheme in which he can use his agility, technique and root strength to anchor the inside. He'd look especially good making second-level blocks with Mack and Levitre holding down the fort at the line of scrimmage. He played at a smaller school, but Lamp showed well against Alabama and LSU, and over three seasons, he allowed just three sacks, nine hits and 18 hurries. Match that with his ability to run-block in zone, and he's a perfect fit for what the Falcons with their blocking schemes.
     
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  50. Jake Scott

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    And McClure reporting we held a private workout with LSU LB Duke Riley.

    Will he be there in the 2nd?