CoronaVirus Disease (COVID-19) Thread : Fuck em, should’ve gotten vaccinated

chuckmasterflex · Mar 26, 2020

Lyrtch said: ↑

between this and Jared killing the ventilator deal with GM cause they might get too many we're going to have even more preventable deaths on the hands of this admin
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Well, at least they were polite about it

BudKilmer · Mar 26, 2020

Lyrtch said: ↑

between this and Jared killing the ventilator deal with GM cause they might get too many we're going to have even more preventable deaths on the hands of this admin
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But him and Mnuchin the cuck will work tirelessly to bail out cruise lines that sail under foreign flags so they can pay workers $2 an hour

Name P. Redacted · Mar 26, 2020

Lotta unearned hot takes going Pokes’ way

it’s like not he’s guyonabuffalo

Lyrtch · Mar 26, 2020

Name P. Redacted said: ↑

Lotta unearned hot takes going Pokes’ way

it’s like not he’s guyonabuffalo
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i see where your solidarity goes smdh

*this is vague, im referencing the resident WAG situation

ugafish · Mar 26, 2020

Henry Blake said: ↑

Updated list of traitorous actions by Trump:
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Post daily, all in one giant post

Name P. Redacted · Mar 26, 2020

Lyrtch said: ↑

i see where your solidarity goes smdh
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Telling him to suck trumps dick or whatever seems unnecessary especially as his concerns of hospitals going bankrupt are showing to be valid

Not gonna die on the hill tho

Lyrtch · Mar 26, 2020

Name P. Redacted said: ↑

Telling him to suck trumps dick or whatever seems unnecessary especially as his concerns of hospitals going bankrupt are showing to be valid

Not gonna die on the hill tho
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nationalize them yesterday

(in the original discussion there was references to needing to bail them out)

Weedlord420 · Mar 26, 2020

Jesus Christ they killed the ventilator mass production?

Literally the one unique, good thing we could have done?

????

Fuck.

Name P. Redacted · Mar 26, 2020

Lyrtch said: ↑

nationalize them yesterday

(in the original discussion there was references to needing to bail them out)
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Fully agreed comrade

Henry Blake · Mar 26, 2020

List of lies

January 22: “We have it totally under control. It’s one person coming in from China. It’s going to be just fine.”

February 2: “We pretty much shut it down coming in from China.”

February 24: “The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA… Stock Market starting to look very good to me!”

February 25: “CDC and my Administration are doing a GREAT job of handling Coronavirus.”

February 25: “I think that's a problem that’s going to go away… They have studied it. They know very much. In fact, we’re very close to a vaccine.”

February 26: “The 15 (cases in the US) within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero.”

February 26: “We're going very substantially down, not up.”

February 27: “One day it’s like a miracle, it will disappear.”

February 28: “We're ordering a lot of supplies. We're ordering a lot of, uh, elements that frankly we wouldn't be ordering unless it was something like this. But we're ordering a lot of different elements of medical.”

March 2: “You take a solid flu vaccine, you don't think that could have an impact, or much of an impact, on corona?”

March 2: “A lot of things are happening, a lot of very exciting things are happening and they’re happening very rapidly.”

March 4: “If we have thousands or hundreds of thousands of people that get better just by, you know, sitting around and even going to work — some of them go to work, but they get better.”

March 5: “I NEVER said people that are feeling sick should go to work.”

March 5: “The United States… has, as of now, only 129 cases… and 11 deaths. We are working very hard to keep these numbers as low as possible!”

March 6: “I think we’re doing a really good job in this country at keeping it down… a tremendous job at keeping it down.”

March 6: “Anybody right now, and yesterday, anybody that needs a test gets a test. They’re there. And the tests are beautiful…. the tests are all perfect like the letter was perfect. The transcription was perfect. Right? This was not as perfect as that but pretty good.”

March 6: “I like this stuff. I really get it. People are surprised that I understand it… Every one of these doctors said, ‘How do you know so much about this?’ Maybe I have a natural ability. Maybe I should have done that instead of running for president.”

March 6: “I don't need to have the numbers double because of one ship that wasn't our fault.”

March 8: “We have a perfectly coordinated and fine tuned plan at the White House for our attack on CoronaVirus.”

March 9: “This blindsided the world.”

February 26: Trump wrongly says the flu death rate is "much higher" than Dr. Sanjay Gupta said

March 2: Trump says a vaccine is coming "relatively soon"

March 6: Trump falsely says US coronavirus numbers "are lower than just about anybody"

March 6: Trump falsely claims anybody can get tested if they want

March 13: We couldn't do the tests b/c of Obama era regulations on the FDA

March 13: I didn't dissolve the pandemic team of the NSC (It was two years ago when Trump ordered the shutdown of the White House National Security Council's entire global health security unit.)

March 15: We've built fantastic partnerships with 2,000 labs and there will be millions of tests ready soon (same as we've been hearing for a month)

March 15: We see what’s happening. We see what’s going on in other countries. We’re learning from watching other countries, frankly. This is a very contagious virus. It’s incredible, but it’s something that we have a tremendous control of.

March 16: I never said we have complete control of the virus.

March 17: Trump saying WHO test “wasn’t offered.” Test was only “offered” to poorest nations. Birx says the WHO test was inferior and gave bad results.

Trump in January: Coronavirus is 'not at all' a pandemic
March 17: 'I felt it was a pandemic long before it was called a pandemic'

March 18: Trump/Birx
Massive throughput labs that will do days worth of tests in 24 hours are coming online
We inherited a broken system that wasn't designed to handle this
Nobody saw this coming

March 20: Are manufacturers in fact making more masks/vents and have you directed them to do it?
Trump: Yes. They're making a lot of ventilators and masks

March 24: Just reported that the United States has done far more “testing” than any other nation, by far! In fact, over an eight day span, the United States now does more testing than what South Korea (which has been a very successful tester) does over an eight week span. Great job!

March 25: We've tested more than anybody. That's especially good when you consider the broken system that I inherited.

March 26:
TRUMP: "We're really a second line of attack. The first line of attack is supposed to be the hospitals and the local government and the states."

March 27:
We gave NY thousands of vents but they didn't know they had them - DJT

When I took office, it was an empty box. We didn't have testing, and we had nothing in the stockpile.

No one (Obama, etc.) had never thought that anything like this might happen.
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Tobias · Mar 26, 2020

Name P. Redacted said: ↑

Telling him to suck trumps dick or whatever seems unnecessary especially as his concerns of hospitals going bankrupt are showing to be valid

Not gonna die on the hill tho
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he’s obviously not a trump guy and that’s absurd

doesn’t mean he shouldn’t be roasted over his constant need to downplay what’s happening. y2k 2.0 was a thing that came outta his mouth. he has earned the shame

devine · Mar 26, 2020

Lol this isn’t our fault folks

Irush · Mar 26, 2020

Next week is going to be fucking terrible

Joe_Pesci · Mar 26, 2020

Bo Pelinis said: ↑

I usually take it pretty easy these days but been having a drink or two every night for reasons
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hmm yes me too

Why?Pokes · Mar 26, 2020

Name P. Redacted said: ↑

Lotta unearned hot takes going Pokes’ way

it’s like not he’s guyonabuffalo
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Appreciate it.

I don’t mind tho, I’m sure I’ve earned some of it and the cat jokes crack me up.

941Gator · Mar 26, 2020

Irush said: ↑

Next week is going to be fucking terrible
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I’m thinking we are still a few weeks (15-20 days) from being really super bad in most state’s.

Lyrtch · Mar 26, 2020

i'm picking up my new adopted cat tomorrow morning

bought a collar and did NOT get a bowtie

ugafish · Mar 26, 2020

Lyrtch said: ↑

between this and Jared killing the ventilator deal with GM cause they might get too many we're going to have even more preventable deaths on the hands of this admin
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Who is he trying to kid? He has never stepped inside an ICU.

newengland · Mar 26, 2020

Lyrtch said: ↑

between this and Jared killing the ventilator deal with GM cause they might get too many we're going to have even more preventable deaths on the hands of this admin
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I hate him and anyone that supports him with every fiber of my being

Joe_Pesci · Mar 26, 2020

guys i think donald trump might be a dumb person

Duck2013 · Mar 26, 2020

Lyrtch said: ↑

i'm picking up my new adopted cat tomorrow morning

bought a collar and did NOT get a bowtie
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god damn monster

Lyrtch · Mar 26, 2020

941Gator said: ↑

I’m thinking we are still a few weeks (15-20 days) from being really super bad in most state’s.
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this is when, even if not another week or so, is when I expect we get crushed here in Minnesota

they've been super proactive though so i'm not sure many states will be as prepared as we are, social distancing started earlyyyyy in the metro

Why?Pokes · Mar 26, 2020

Tobias said: ↑

he’s obviously not a trump guy and that’s absurd

doesn’t mean he shouldn’t be roasted over his constant need to downplay what’s happening. y2k 2.0 was a thing that came outta his mouth. he has earned the shame
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$P1 · Mar 26, 2020

I honestly think they want the cities to experience indescribable levels of suffering.

Lyrtch · Mar 26, 2020

if you're wrong on this website

it sticks

luckily

Joe_Pesci · Mar 26, 2020

Irush said: ↑

Next week is going to be fucking terrible
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are you saying that i should save my rewatch of Wrestlemania 17 for next week?

Tug · Mar 26, 2020

Weedlord420 said: ↑

Jesus Christ they killed the ventilator mass production?

Literally the one unique, good thing we could have done?

????

Fuck.
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Seems like they shouldn’t fuck with an opportunity to create manufacturing jobs

ugafish · Mar 26, 2020

devine said: ↑

Lol this isn’t our fault folks

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He has it backwards. The feds have access to the knowledge, the means to demand production, purchasing power, and ability to disperse what is needed.

chuckmasterflex · Mar 26, 2020

The only thing worse than having too little medical supplies is having too many. How are patients going to get in the building if it is just full of equipment?

Lyrtch · Mar 26, 2020

i guess publicizing this is good, i guess?

ono · Mar 26, 2020

SP1 said: ↑

I honestly think they want the liberals to experience indescribable levels of suffering.
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FIFY

Joe_Pesci · Mar 26, 2020

uh oh, i'm getting mad on the internet again after reading trump's statements from today

Clemson327 · Mar 26, 2020

Lyrtch said: ↑

i guess publicizing this is good, i guess?
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Fuck

Biship · Mar 26, 2020

Champ · Mar 26, 2020

Lyrtch said: ↑

i'm picking up my new adopted cat tomorrow morning

bought a collar and did NOT get a bowtie
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Name?

Lyrtch · Mar 26, 2020

Champ said: ↑

Name?
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dunno yet

941Gator · Mar 26, 2020

Biship said: ↑

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I do same. I believe I got in that habit due to numbers never working growing up (see: poor) but now it is just quicker

Henry Blake · Mar 26, 2020

NYT article laying out Trump's decisions to blow off pandemic preparedness.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/19/us/politics/trump-coronavirus-outbreak.html

Before Virus Outbreak, a Cascade of Warnings Went Unheeded
Government exercises, including one last year, made clear that the U.S. was not ready for a pandemic like the coronavirus. But little was done.

The Department of Health and Human Services’ Covid-19 operations center in Washington. The department ran an extensive exercise last year simulating a pandemic.Credit...Al Drago for The New York Times

By David E. Sanger, Eric Lipton, Eileen Sullivan and Michael Crowley

Published March 19, 2020Updated March 22, 2020

WASHINGTON — The outbreak of the respiratory virus began in China and was quickly spread around the world by air travelers, who ran high fevers. In the United States, it was first detected in Chicago, and 47 days later, the World Health Organization declared a pandemic. By then it was too late: 110 million Americans were expected to become ill, leading to 7.7 million hospitalized and 586,000 dead.

That scenario, code-named “Crimson Contagion” and imagining an influenza pandemic, was simulated by the Trump administration’s Department of Health and Human Services in a series of exercises that ran from last January to August.

The simulation’s sobering results — contained in a draft report dated October 2019 that has not previously been reported — drove home just how underfunded, underprepared and uncoordinated the federal government would be for a life-or-death battle with a virus for which no treatment existed.

The draft report, marked “not to be disclosed,” laid out in stark detail repeated cases of “confusion” in the exercise. Federal agencies jockeyed over who was in charge. State officials and hospitals struggled to figure out what kind of equipment was stockpiled or available. Cities and states went their own ways on school closings.

comprehensive report on the lessons learned by the government from battling Ebola. In January 2017, outgoing Obama administration officials ran an extensive exercise on responding to a pandemic for incoming senior officials of the Trump administration.

The full story of the Trump administration’s response to the coronavirus is still playing out. Government officials, health professionals, journalists and historians will spend years looking back on the muddled messages and missed opportunities of the past three months, as President Trump moved from dismissing the coronavirus as a few cases that would soon be “under control” to his revisionist announcement on Monday that he had known all along that a pandemic was on the way.

increase funding for the Department of Health and Human Services’ program that focuses on global pandemic threats.

“Any suggestion that President Trump did not take the threat of COVID-19 seriously is false,” said Judd Deere, a White House spokesman.

But officials have declined to say why the administration was so slow to roll out broad testing or to move faster, as the simulations all indicated it should, to urge social distancing and school closings.

Asked at his news briefing on Thursday about the government’s preparedness, Mr. Trump responded: “Nobody knew there would be a pandemic or epidemic of this proportion. Nobody has ever seen anything like this before.”

The work done over the past five years, however, demonstrates that the government had considerable knowledge about the risks of a pandemic and accurately predicted the very types of problems Mr. Trump is now scrambling belatedly to address.

Crimson Contagion, the exercise conducted last year in Washington and 12 states including New York and Illinois, showed that federal agencies under Mr. Trump continued the Obama-era effort to think ahead about a pandemic.

But the planning and thinking happened many layers down in the bureaucracy. The knowledge and sense of urgency about the peril appear never to have gotten sufficient attention at the highest level of the executive branch or from Congress, leaving the nation with funding shortfalls, equipment shortages and disorganization within and among various branches and levels of government.

first flu pandemic in more than 40 years.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention estimates that ultimately there were about 60.8 million cases in the United States, along with 274,304 hospitalizations and 12,469 deaths associated with H1N1.

The virus turned out to be less deadly than first expected. But it was a warning shot that officials in the Obama administration said they took seriously, kicking off a planning effort that escalated in early 2014, with the outbreak of Ebola in West Africa and ensuing fear that it could spread to the United States.

Ebola was less contagious than the flu, but far more deadly. It killed 11,000 people in Africa. But it could have been far worse. The United States sent nearly 3,000 troops to Africa to help keep the disease from spreading. While the containment effort was considered a success, inside the White House, officials sensed that the United States had gotten lucky — and that the response had revealed gaps in preparedness.

His report concluded that the United States assumed more ability on the part of the World Health Organization than the agency actually had.

The United States had its own issues. There was no airplane in the U.S. fleet capable of evacuating an American doctor who was infected while treating patients in Liberia. The Pentagon was largely unprepared for the intervention that Mr. Obama ordered.

While the United States rapidly developed a way to screen air passengers coming into the country — borrowing from intelligence tools developed after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks to track possible terrorists — Mr. Kirchhoff found deficiencies in even measuring how fast the virus was spreading.

errors resulted in the infection of two nurses and fear of a wider spread in the United States. (Mr. Duncan died, but the two nurses recovered.)

What is striking in reading Mr. Kirchhoff’s account today, however, is how few of the major faults he found in the American response resulted in action — even though the report was filled with department-by-department recommendations.

There were deficiencies “in personal protective equipment use, disinfection” and “social services for those placed under quarantine.”

There was confusion over travel restrictions, and the need “for a smoother sliding scale of escalation of government response, from local authorities acting on their own to local authorities acting with some federal assistance” to the full activation of the federal government.

The report concluded that “a minimum planning benchmark might be an epidemic an order of magnitude or two more difficult than that presented by the outbreak of Ebola in West Africa, with much more significant domestic spread.”

But one big change did come out of the study: The creation of a dedicated office at the National Security Council to coordinate responses and raise the alarm early.

reported by Politico.

But by the time the current crisis hit, almost all of the leaders at the table — Mr. Tillerson, Mr. Kelly and Mr. Perry among them — had been fired or moved on.

a nasty question,” before adding: “I don’t know anything about it.” Writing on Twitter the next day, Mr. Bolton lashed out at critics who said the shift had reflected disregard for pandemic threats.

“Claims that streamlining NSC structures impaired our nation’s bio defense are false,” Mr. Bolton tweeted. “Global health remained a top NSC priority.”

In a statement, the National Security Council said it “has directors and staff whose full-time job it is to monitor, plan for, and respond to pandemics, including an infectious disease epidemiologist and a virologist.”

But in testimony to Congress last week, Dr. Anthony S. Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, suggested that ending the stand-alone directorate was ill-advised. “It would be nice if the office was still there,” he said.

On Feb. 10, nearly three weeks after the first coronavirus case was diagnosed in the United States, Mr. Trump submitted a 2021 budget proposal that called for a $693.3 million reduction in funding for the C.D.C., or about 9 percent, although there was a modest increase for the division that combats global pandemics.

same types of confusion and discrepancies that have marked the response to the coronavirus.

The exercise from last year then went on to predict how the situation on the ground in the United States would worsen as the weeks passed.

Confusion emerged as state governments began to turn in large numbers to Washington for help to address shortages of antiviral medications, personal protective equipment and ventilators. Then states started to submit requests to different branches of the federal government, leading to bureaucratic chaos.

Friction also emerged between the Federal Emergency Management Agency, which is traditionally in charge of disaster response, and the Department of Health and Human Services, another scenario playing out now.

But the problems were larger than bureaucratic snags. The United States, the organizers realized, did not have the means to quickly manufacture more essential medical equipment, supplies or medicines, including antiviral medications, needles, syringes, N95 respirators and ventilators, the agency concluded.

Congress was briefed in December on some of these findings, including the inability to quickly replenish certain medical supplies, given that much of the product comes from overseas.

These concerns turned more urgent at a hearing last Thursday on Capitol Hill, as lawmakers peppered officials with the Department of Health and Human Services with questions that sounded almost as if they had read the script from the fictional exercise, reflecting the shortage of respirators and protective gear.

Senator Mitt Romney, Republican of Utah, said last week that he blamed Congress and prior administrations for not increasing stockpiles of this type of equipment.

“That is an area we ought to consider making an investment in,” he added, making a point, apparently unknown to him, that the administration’s own simulation had made clear five months earlier.
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GordoBombay · Mar 26, 2020

MtOread said: ↑

The mental backflips that conservatives will do to support Trump as the death tolls continue to rise in the next few weeks is going to be so depressing.
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But the flu!

Truman · Mar 26, 2020

Lyrtch said: ↑

dunno yet
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Covi

chuckmasterflex · Mar 26, 2020

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I microwave only in 11 second increments cause I'm a mover and shaker

BellottiBold · Mar 26, 2020

DrTomOsbourne · Mar 26, 2020

DJ at the most popular bar we have down here in Ft Myers. Dead today.

chuckmasterflex · Mar 26, 2020

cutig · Mar 26, 2020

Lyrtch said: ↑

dunno yet
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Donald obvi

user15000 · Mar 26, 2020

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Next week is going to be fucking terrible
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The leadership and corporate data science teams at publicly traded hospital companies are projecting the peak in lots of large cities to be May-June. I'd love to think that they're wrong, but this is kind of what they're paid to do. The contrast in the message between people working in health care and this administration is ridiculous.

I don't think any of us, myself included, really comprehend how bad this is going to be in the coming weeks and months.

DrTomOsbourne · Mar 26, 2020

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DJ at the most popular bar we have down here in Ft Myers. Dead today.

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VaxRule · Mar 26, 2020

devine said: ↑

Lol this isn’t our fault folks

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“Global Pandemic! Somebody get me the mayor of Peekskill on the horn, STAT!”

- How people with good brains think things should work.

Daniel Ocean · Mar 26, 2020

Henry Blake said: ↑

The first CDC test flopping was just good luck for Trump
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it’s not once you consider we could have used the WHO test everyone else used.

TrustyPatches · Mar 26, 2020

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