So stupid totally not important question but assume we get to herd immunity by July 4th, does that mean people can start going to football games in the fall? If so, at what level (I know it’ll prob depend on the conference)? I won’t really care to go but college football without crowds is sad.
considering many schools had fans this past year when things were raging out of control, i would think it'll be pretty open when we are herd immune
This is no place for nuance. If you watch football on TV at home you might be giving Covid to your neighbors through your eyeballs. So basically you’re probably the most selfish person who has ever existed.
If cases are damn near zero even with new variants I don't see why a lot of states wouldn't be quick to completely open up outdoor events. I'm wondering how much the new strains, along with people refusing to get vaccinated, will keep cases up above something like 20,000 per day nationally until we see these new boosters rolled out.
And there's nothing that Raytheon can produce that can protect us from the world seeing this in action now.
This assumes that prior COVID infections provide protection against new strains. Have we seen any real data on that? I thought I’d seen some positive news on the vaccines and these variants but not the infection immunity.
To add to this has anyone seen anything on the least amount of time from first infection to second infection?
It depends on your definition of “getting sick.” If by “getting sick” you mean “getting an infection,” no they aren’t. If you mean “getting a constellation of symptoms that make the individual unwell,” then yes they are.
It's probably somewhat enough (I am speculating here) for the UK variant that doesn't have quite as many different mutations as the SA variant given that the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines both seem to be effective against the UK strain in testing. We'll probably find out in just a couple of months, but we just need to keep hospitalizations and deaths down which was the whole point of isolating in the first place.
as the boards leading expert on all topics im now bullish on things laaarrgggelllyy being back to normal, or what the new normal is going to be, by about June.
I guess im against the phrase "getting sick" bc it feels anti-vax adjacent. If we can educate people to understand that it's the immune system working, then it's better phrasing then saying they got sick from the shot.
I hope Moody Analytics can run these numbers better than they did with the election because I have a screenshot from them that I shared in the election thread that had Trump winning the race in a sizable landslide.
She mostly was her first time around a few months ago and hasn’t had any lingering issues. She got the first shot of vaccine but haven’t heard if she ever got round 2 yet.
i think people are mostly underestimating the impact high infection rates already and ever increasing vaccines will have on case counts, just self propagating each other into the ground. then you have places with financial pressure to get rolling in the summer. the part i'm waiting for is how countries are going to start treating vaccined travelers and how many places are going to do what Amsterdam has just started trialing, with in airport pre-flight testing capability. be regional variation but countries with huge amounts of budgets drawn from travel also going to be crafting interesting solutions. Iceland will be an interesting test case. also think you'll face headwinds of people vaccinated wanting to do normal things, and so far I haven't seen good arguments against that especially when community spread is largely not there. the only real ??? is variants, but so far they all seem over blown
I think this is a huge question and the only reason I’m trying to not let myself get excited about case numbers plummeting here in Alabama at the moment
So my grandmother (94, and still mostly there mentally but not in great health overall) went to the hospital a few days after the first shot, she's been in for a couple weeks, due to dehydration, diarrhea and reduced kidney function. She's supposed to get out tomorrow, there was some confusion at first whether or not the doctors felt it was due to the vaccine, but her doctor advised she not get the second shot as he felt it would carry a risk of kidney failure given her reaction to the first. Figured I'd put that out there, not sure if anyone with elderly parents/grandparents heard the same.
strong immune responses in the frail/elderly can be deleterious. another reason why "i got my vaccine, everyone else can get F-ed" is WRONG.
Mom finally got her first vaccine at the end of last week. She's felt like shit the last 3 days, mainly just a fever coming and going and no energy. She called her Dr and they said it's common for people to have similar symptoms but normally on the 2nd shot. They said most people that have these symptoms on the first shot are due to them having already had Covid? She swears up and down she had it last January when she was super sick with what was called the flu at that time so maybe she was right.
Usually if it’s within 90 days of having it, not a year. But I assume anything can occur. Sample size of 1 has a very wide range of symptoms. also if she tested positive for the flu then it wasn’t covid
Been so long ago I don't know if she was even tested for the flu. She was just tired and achy and coughing.
Had an outbreak at my son's daycare. They are shutting down for 14 days. I'm not sure how my wife an I will be able to work and take care of a 7 month old.
Had to pick up a prescription today and asked if online was the only way to register for a Covid shot. She said yes, but that today is the last day this particular Walgreens is giving them out. Hooray. I guess it’s over. WTF
some states are pulling from outlets like this to administer through other venues. at least that's what i have heard.
Apparently our area wasn’t hit hard (and our populace is less at-risk) so they’re shifting resources to other areas
My wife's hospital is done administering vaccines. No one knows why, considering it's such a large site of nurses who can administer it in masses.
Any idea why? On both parts, why did they stop supplying to those groups and why things are only heading to the mass vaccination sites? Also, aren't many of those mass vaccination sites run by hospitals?
christ this is a rough intro https://pioneerworks.org/broadcast/cleave-covid19/ i get stuff was/is bad but fuck that nursing home
Another anecdotal piece of evidence that the second shot can be intense. Wife got her second Pfizer shot yesterday and this morning was complaining about chills, a slight fever, nausea, and fatigue. She did feel good enough to at least drop her mother off at the adult day care center.
The mass vaccination sites are run by the state and manned by a lot of hospital staff. I know the guy (well more so the wife) who’s in charge of the site at Fenway park and the logistics are being run by the company that organizes the Boston Marathon. It’s supposedly temporary and to aid in streamlining the process and supply chain issues. MA has had a hard time getting their act together but for them, the folks who can make it to the hospital or clinic, can also make it to the mass site. Of course, it’s an open question on how this is going to work out for folks from communities who're at a higher risk of contracting covid (non-white, and working class communities) However, there are 20 cities / towns where they’re still providing vaccines for pharmacies and some practices, based on current and past covid caseloads. They also announced (finally!) that they're opening up the next phase of vaccinations for 65+ or 2+ co-morbidity groups. I had an appointment setup for Sunday at Fenway Park, escorting my Mother in Law for her 2nd shot, so here's hoping that I can get my 1st shot on Sunday. MA allowed 1 caregiver / escort (family / neighbor etc but not that it's enforceable) to get the vaccine along with a 75+ year old person, as long as they had an appointment the same day at a Mass vaccination site.