The vaccines dont have anywhere near the complete viral genome. You cant produce things your cells dont have instructions to build Though i think the person you're talking about is much older, right? Thats a thing ive seen old ppl say
no they’re not that old they’re pregnant. “How do we know what they use to make mRNA. I heard they use ecoli”. Their other contention is even if it doesn’t shed the virus it could be shedding “something” that could be bad... fuck me
Question: Whats to stop people immunized with adenovirus vector vaccines like JnJ from building immunity to vector as well? Doesnt that make boosters with adenovirus vectors impossible?
Dumb as fuck too. I'm convinced, anti vaxxers, Trump Voters, and COVID truthers are the dumbest group of people in human history relative to their time period by an insanely wide margin.
Absolutely. Adenovirus is a stupid fucking platform for a vaccine. Sorry, but trying to not to create hesitancy for J&J or AZ but yeah.
Looks like we are at ~128 million first doses (think that includes the ~70 million janssen) so roughly 1 in 3 Americans now have some sort of immunity (limited or full depending on time since dose) US population is ~328 million We have to start getting to a point where we start seeing a significant reduction in new cases, right? I have a business degree from a state university, but the percentage of viable hosts has to be decresing daily? Even if not all vaccines are 100% and it takes time for them to offer full protection, the population that can catch this has to go down?
Yes. I also have a degree from a state university so I don’t know at what point that will be, but most seem to think we’re still maybe a month away from that and a couple months more until those cases actually have enough time to drop significantly
The peak of last summer's surge was 7/22 with 70,988 new cases that day and a 7 day average of 68,838 Yesterday, 67,955 new cases and a 7 day avg of 68,794
I also have a degree from a state university and I'm in general very dumb but I thought we'd be seeing cases decline more quickly at this point.
I get the growth is exponential, and the decline won't be but we are sitting in the same spot we were last summer with cases Although, last summer we were still pretty locked down and now that's pretty much put the window everywhere. So maybe progress?
Yeah and we've slightly increased oir 7 day average over the last several weeks. I'm just tired of this shit
UK variant is a lot more contagious and probably ripping through tons of unvaccinated communities it seems. It's not quite apples to apples to compare this to last summer.
There are places in the U.S. where the world is almost completely back to normal. Give some get some with the infections I suppose.
I guess my point is that it is frustrating so many people and places have given up. Vaccines with the same precautions as last year and who knows what it looks like today
I don't think any of this is shocking, but I'm going to be pissed if people either aren't being given straight up cash to get vaccinated soon or the Biden administration doesn't start pressuring airlines, event venues. etc. to outright require vaccination for admittance. https://news.yahoo.com/america-is-a...hsYrTD_ZdOi6Y8RjBxZXUgR8XuDoGBkzbMb7f_p81ddZg
Like others said, UK variant plus abandoning/relaxing public health measures. The southeast is not getting vaccinated as quickly as other parts of the country, Unused vaccines are starting to accumulate. Yep. Fatigue and we generally don't care about our fellow citizens.
We're going to get those kids vaccinated soon enough though. It's almost certain that kids 12 and older will be able to get the Pfizer vaccine by the start of the new school year. I'm optimistic we'll see even younger kids approved as well.
This is equivalent to the US having 50K cases, FWIW. Yesterday the US had 75K cases. So we are currently doing worse than their worst day. In comparison, our worst day was Jan 8th with 309K cases. Which would be equivalent to 1.2M cases in India. So our worst day was 6x worse than their worst day.
We will easily get to 60%. There’s a couple dozen states that are already above 50% of adults getting their 1st dose.
What is India's testing capacity like though? Can't imagine it's anything close to ours so it wouldn't be surprising if they are missing fuck tons of cases. (Not excusing our shitty handling of this situation)
Iunno man, i get really uncomfortable at doing per capita deaths/illness, especially with such large numbers, because each one of those numbers is a person here, ya know?
Fucking coworker of mine walks into my office yesterday, takes off his mask (we are asked to wear masks in the hallway no matter what, but we are both vaccinated), and says “damn man this cold is killing me, my kids are both sick and now I have it.” Dude put your mask on- you think I want that shit?
Yeah, not worried about it. I get tested twice a week thru my job despite being fully vaccinated since late Feb
pretty sure I’m dealing with this now, on day 8 of a cold with no fever . Wife is in bed sick now too aches and cold symptoms Both of us had one shot of moderna 3 weeks ago might be nothing though
SURPRISE! We held strong and didn't go to the wedding. Just found out a bridesmaid (which my wife would have been with) came into the event likely infected and tested positive about a week after. To make things worse...there was rain so their outdoor ceremony became an indoor one and it was a fully packed small chapel (not everyone there I think could even fit in).