CoronaVirus Disease (COVID-19) Thread : Fuck em, should’ve gotten vaccinated

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  1. Can I Spliff it

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  2. Henry Blake

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  3. Hoss Bonaventure

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    Just saw where a former coworker has been in the hospital for a week with covid and just got released home. Said still has a long ways to go though. I have no idea if he is vaccinated or not. He’s pretty far right politically but he’s never posted anything about covid or anything like that so I don’t know. He is a little on the chubby side but not like fat fat.
     
  4. Tobias

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    when tho
     
  5. Gritty Badger

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    just go get one
     
  6. killerwvu

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    6 months
     
  7. Can I Spliff it

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    The meeting to discuss a 3rd shot for normies like us is friday, which they will probably begin, again, some tiered implementation like we saw at the beginninv of the year, if they even decide that there is a need for a 3rd shot.
     
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  9. VaxRule

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    Yes. I contracted the government policy makers with the FDA gatekeepers. Thank you. Clarity is important. People be word doc’ing and shit
     
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  10. Andy Reocho

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    Russia: hey everyone, buy our vaccine!

    WHO:

     
  11. Pile Driving Miss Daisy

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    Yeahhhhh, so she's dead right? Hope that fucker dies a horrible painful death too.
     
  12. PeterGriffin

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  13. El Tiburon

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    Don’t know yet. I’d wager it’s just a matter of when not if.
     
  14. afb

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    if only they had someone else they could get information from

    maybe like an elected representative for example
     
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  15. chuckmasterflex

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    Politico editor wont even tweet his headline "DeSantis flirts with the anti-vaccine crowd" for some reason
     
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  16. El Tiburon

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    TIL that slathering your asshole with KY and allowing a train of countless men to go balls deep inside of you is considered “flirting.”
     
  17. ashy larry

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    tbh 57% is higher than I would have thought but I imagine the ~70+ crowd inflates it a bit.
     
  18. afb

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    But guys

    he’s never said he’s anti-vax
     
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  19. Can I Spliff it

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  20. Pile Driving Miss Daisy

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    LOOOOOOOOL, just keeps going and going and going.



     
  21. texasraider

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  22. a.tramp

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    Hello pperc , have a question for you. I will get to it.

    So my MIL messaged my wife and I a video of Geert Vanden Bossche just using a lot of words. I think the gist of it was/is the vaccinated are ushering in a super-virus and the end of humanity is soon to follow.

    My response to her was basically, “do you mind sending me links to the peer reviewed research and trials he used to determine this because the video is just a man talking a lot without providing any statistics to back up his claims.”

    Her response was simply “I’ll ask the person that sent me the video.”

    So the question is, what do I say to her about his claims?

    My response so far will be:
    A) I have searched and his “findings” appear to be theoretical without any support, either by data or among peers.
    B) The “super-virus” theory only so far has been closely resembled by Delta, which had its birth during the pre-vaccine era.
    C) Do not trust any article or video you get from the person that sent it to you because it was shared from a host that is the refuge of conspiracy theorists that have been debunked off of all other reputable platforms.
    D) idk my bff Jill.

    I’ll hang up and listen, thanks.
     
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  23. chuckmasterflex

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    All I can say is don't listen to Jim Breuer (who is apparently only 54) about what to put in your body and what not to.
     
  24. Can I Spliff it

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    Sorry to butt in but i always butt in :(

    The variants happened before vaccines were available too, including very bad ones. India, the presumptive origin of the Delta variant, specifically declared their herd immunity was reached via acquired immunity via infection, before they had virtually any access to vaccines.

    Moreover, if her worry is breeding super variants, the only way to stop mutations is to stop getting infected, i.e. non-pharmaceutical interventions are an absolute must, like good quality masks and lockdowns
     
  25. a.tramp

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    Yeah, I covered the first part in B) but probably worded it incorrectly.
     
  26. ~ taylor ~

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    Do viruses mutate in their initial host as they're burning it out, or when they get to more hostile host and mutate to survive?

    I'm not a scientician.
     
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    Lol Hasan getting into a twitter argument with Nikki minaj wasn’t on my 2021 bingo card
     
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  28. Voodoo

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    If I remember correctly from my 10th grade biology class, the mutations happen randomly so it could be either when they’re killing a host, when the host is killing them, or anywhere in between.
     
  29. VaxRule

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    Mutations are a product of replication. Every replication is an opportunity to mutate. Whether those mutations are at all relevant is the important clinical question.
     
  30. pperc

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    F) for fuck this earth
     
  31. pperc

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    For real. No one really knows. But I’m in the boat of more infection = more chance for mutation. Mutating away from vaccination pressure doesn’t mean a worse or better variant.
     
  32. Can I Spliff it

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    The large scale suppression of measles due to vaccination doesnt exist to Geert, it seems. Or small pox. Or TB. Etc
     
  33. AptosDuck

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    Supermeasles is just around the corner!
     
  34. Pile Driving Miss Daisy

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    There's also this idea being shared among conspiracy circles that those who are vaccinated are adding pressure to any virus that may escape some immunity to only further escape vaccine resistance, which isn't entirely illogical when you deal with maintaining mutant strains of any model organism in a lab. This refutes the idea that even during wide spread infection, the vaccinated aren't likely going to drive further variants to escape immunity than unvaccinated people.

    https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/ar...rgence-of-escape-mutant-variants-of-covid-19/

    a.tramp this actually has that piece of shit referenced in it.

    There was some other stuff I saw on Twitter not long ago, I'll see if I can dig it up.
     
  35. a.tramp

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    So more vaccination equals less infections with also less time of infection which equals less opportunity for mutation and replication. So just by a sheer numbers game the smart play to reduce variants is vaccination because the playing field and time of play is shrunk.

    But, being that it is random, a bad mambo-jambo variant could still mutate and replicate out of a fully vaccinated field but the smart money is on vaccine vaccine vaccine.

    Is that the long and short of it or did I miss it?
     
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  36. pperc

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    It’s not actually random. Improved fitness and selection pressure can push mutations.
     
  37. Pile Driving Miss Daisy

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    If you really want to engage her in good-faith (which obviously she isn't doing to you) then you only have to mention that we already deal with this with the flu and updating vaccines to newer strains. If her reply is that "well I never got the flu shot and I'm fine REEEE!" you can then simply show her nothing but tons of easily google-able stats showing how this is now much MUCH more contagious than the flu and more deadly, it's not apples to apples.
     
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  38. pperc

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    It’s just another excuse from a scared, pathetic person. They need to be held down and injected in their ass.
     
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  39. VaxRule

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    In order to escape vaccine induced immunity, the virus needs hosts that allow lots of replications to get the chance of generating the types of mutations that would allow it to bypass that immunity. (Or in the bleaker outlook, just outlast the durability of that vaccine induced immunity.) But both of those cases are most likely to happen with large unvaccinated populations as those that are recently vaccinated aren’t exactly hospitable to the virus.
     
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  40. IV

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    I’m so tired of these children masquerading as adults fucking up everything
     
  41. a.tramp

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    I pointed out to her that the deadliest flu season in the last decade did not have the total amount of deaths in the US as covid has had in just Texas since it appeared. Of course, operation move goalposts kicked in.
     
  42. Pile Driving Miss Daisy

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    Yes, the article I linked uses this to debunk the super-variant bc of vaccines idea right off the bat. The issue is too though that everyone basically understands this virus is endemic, so it's not entirely unfounded and is absolutely something being considered by epidemiologists, virologists, etc. in current research.
     
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