Years ago I got a summer virus. Sickest I've ever been. I was stupid and in my 20's and thought I could beat it. After a sleepless hallucinogenic night I went to the emergency care clinic. Nurse asked what was wrong, I said take my temp. It was 103.7, she immediately brought the Dr in, who promptly put me on IV fluids. As I was finishing my 2nd bag I heard through the curtain the DR ask the nurse how much fluid I had and if I'd urinated yet - I had not. He told her if I haven't gone by the time I'd finished the 2nd bag to catheter me. I immediately yelled out I needed to pee. It was basically chunks when I went but by god they didn't stick a tube up my dick.
A big question I'm wondering is if you wait for the updated vaccine, will a pediatrician give your kid two doses of it? Well the FDA or whomever recommend starting the series at that point?
Nephew got it on a fishing trip w a client. His fiancee got it later in the week (tested positive Friday). We got to cancel a shower for them. Was 70+ people on Saturday. Out of 9 people on a conference call 3 currently have it.
the ped didn’t have them last week due to our governor. Was going to take her to CVS, but they weren’t the best with my 6 yo last December when he was squirming and anxious because of the shot
I think you're misunderstanding my post. In the next few months we'll get, hopefully, new doses of the vaccine that are targeted against Omicron. The development of this has been that this is another booster and was, I'm assuming, studied as such (i.e. only one dose given, not two). When this becomes available for everyone, will pediatricians give two shots of this to kids who have never had a single dose of the original vaccine or will they only give it after that has been done?
Our pediatrician still doesn’t have any so were going to cvs tonight. The good thing about cvs is the toy aisle as a bribe
Considering how long it took them to just get the standard vaccine available for under 6, I would not consider them having available variant specific boosters, or original doses. available for that same age on any reasonable timeline. Especially considering less government funding.
pperc can chime in but updating a vaccine that has the same dosage should take a hell of a lot less time in a trial and to get approval for the same age group that the original was already authorized for. It will take time, yes, but not a year's worth if things are moving quickly.
But nothing moved quickly for original dose, what has changed in the equation that would now make it a priority? Nothing, that is what. They are seen as low risk and will continue to be until a variant comes along that puts that age in the crosshairs.
I don't think the fda has adjusted their bureaucratic speed to account for mRNA Vax development but idk
i just want moderna which of course no one locally had because taking two kids under 4 to 2 appointments instead of 3 is so much easier
There is no way they fund anything vaccine related here. Maybe enough for the high risk people but all of that is off the table for everyone else come fall. They couldn’t even get it the last time they tried.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m absolutely going to just say I’m high risk and get one because I’m not gonna get wiped out by a bunch of republicans taking their orders from their window licking voters views on science and medicine.
You don't have to do a full-on phase-3 clinical trial to get an existing vaccine updated for new strains through the FDA which takes a long time, this has been a thing for a while now. I'm in the Moderna trial still and haven't receive one of the Omicron boosters they're testing, it was on a small subset of people. It's the same thing when the flu vaccine gets updated, they don't need to test it out on 30,000 people every year but instead can do it on a few hundred for some efficacy but a lot of safety data.
Not sure what your deal is. Pfizer and Moderna didn't start doing any real testing on an Omicron vaccine until January iirc, both have said that if they use the one targeting BA.1 it should be ready in large enough quantities in a couple of months, if they need to go further and target BA.3 and BA.4 then yes it will delay them because those strains showed up only a couple of months ago. I'd like for this to move faster, but this is the speed at which influenza vaccines are updated. The original vaccine was ready in about 8-9 months but on a very tiny scale which won't be the case this time even if there isn't as much funding as there should be.
Yes, and when you figure in the dismal adoption rates of under 18 that seems to get lower as the age goes down with the lack of government funding, I am sure pharma is in a big rush to crank out variant based vaccines to a population that has been deemed lowest of risk. Nothing like low demand to get capitalism to do its quickest and finest work. Especially when jumping through governmental red tape on a political hot-button item. I hope I am wrong on my assessment of the situation, to be clear.
unless you want Pfizer and Moderna to start exposing trial participants, including control group members, to Covid, I’m not sure what you expect them to do
I did not lay out any expectations. I just was listing reasons why it will take long. Thanks for coming up with another one of those.
Google is saying a big reason for the delay was a lot of initial mixed results in animal models and how insanely quickly the sub-variants evolved which showed a lot more vaccine resistance than the original Omicron strain that hit the US. The FDA has already recommended updating it for the fall, so we're going to get a new booster at some point, but they're weighing whether to ask for a current bivalent vaccine (Omicron BA.1 + original vaccine) or let the companies just take a bit longer and target BA.3/BA.4.
Same, only last week. I thought my immune system was elite, have never even had the flu Wasn't too bad but I've been fucked up on cough meds and Tito's for 10 days. I don't know if I have extreme exhaustion and foggy memory from that or covid, prolly both Not looking forward to going back to full time work tomorrow :/
Finally got it as well. And it sucks. I'm on day two. Let's see what this paxlovid can do. Side bar, I wonder if I've been wasting my time with at-home tests. Took one yesterday and one today when I was very symptomatic and neither were positive, but the rapid PCR at the doc showed positive.
Weird when only one partner catches Covid. I haven’t had a fever in days and leave quarantine tomorrow. My wife never caught it. No way to no how long I’d still be infectious for, if at all.
I joined the club today :( it was a nice run……wife is still negative my kid has a PCR lined up tomorrow But I think he got me sick
Tested positive Thursday. I can’t imagine how awful this would be if I wasn’t vaxxed. Haven’t felt this shitty in a long time. Wife is testing negative though which is nice.
People getting sick now do you have any idea where you caught it/have you been masking when going to the store, etc?
Not gonna lie, I haven't been masking. Depending on how long it takes to begin after exposure, I may have gotten it from a work trip a couple weeks ago where I met with people who were just recovering from it. I was actually a bit freaked out when one guy came in immediately after a negative test. And of course, planes, restaurants, etc. But I think the most likely culprits are my kids. They were both under the weather last week. I know I received a few coughs directly in my face from them.
Officially going back to masking. I was doing it about 25% of the time but look at this thread, the never-had-it crew are getting picked off like flies.
Digikey has started carrying 3M Vflex again. You can buy a few and try. Really breathable mask and it's an N95. Masks are not individually packaged/sealed when they ship if that matters to you. They come in one plastic bag. https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/3m/9105/5128356