Private companies that are subsidized by US tax dollars and then turn around and sell that shit for an insanely high price aren't doing shit for society except making it harder for the less fortunate to take care of their health. They're using our money to make a product then spitting in our faces when we need that medicine. How is that creating value for "society" Unless of course we don't consider those without the means to afford the product apart of society....
Also, to be clear, I don’t think there is strong justification for the price increase other than typical “it’s what the market will accept”. I just find it frustrating that Topol glosses over the “insurance won’t pay” and “government is no longer paying” as if that’s an OK decision and then places all the blame elsewhere. I also wonder whether that $120 is list price and PBMs will “negotiate”, take their pointless cut and pass on nothing to consumers, and the net for the vaccine manufacturers is quite a bit less after discounts to PBMs and insurers. It’s a ridiculously convoluted system that leaches money to middlemen.
I was referring to things like statins. A once expensive medicine that is now generic and extremely cheap. Saved probably 100s of millions of lives over the last 50 years.
I mean drug companies have a long history of doing shit like this, along with getting the entire state of West Virginia addicted to opioids.
I think they will still be free for the uninsured: https://www.hhs.gov/about/news/2023...ld cover vaccination, including,.hhs.gov/news. insurance companies should pay their share if they insure a person. $100 for a vaccine like this is extremely cost effective still and insurance companies should pay for it in full. Co-pays and co-insurance should be illegal.
And how about the all the people who died from not being able to afford it because the pharma and insurance companies essentially lock the less fortunate out from having those drugs? If the government made them they'd be affordable from day 1. Hell we paid for the shit so it should be affordable from day 1in the first god damn place. Making medicine to save people's lives shouldnt be a money making expenditure.
This goes beyond just one vaccine or drug. It's their history, and what they do is unacceptable and they deserve to be nationalized for the things they've done along with the insurance companies. There are just some things private industry shouldn't have it's hand in. This is one of them
My only point was saying pharma companies and insurance companies are equally bad is like saying the far left and far right are equally bad. I disagree strongly with both of those statements. Topol ignoring insurance is him staning for the insurance companies since Moderna already said that if you can’t pay, it’ll still be free: https://s29.q4cdn.com/435878511/files/doc_news/Statements/2023/statement.pdf. Assuming they follow through on this (I know it’s a big assumption), then we are currently upset in this thread because insurance companies now have to foot a bill our tax dollars have been footing instead of them. I won’t cry for the insurance companies paying $100 for my vaccine.
I like your nationalization model we’ve discussed before, fwiw. Scientists would probably get paid even more than they do now.
And they'd deserve it and that would actually be good for the general public. High paid scientists, affordable medicine for all
Here’s when to keep your student home When your child has a fever over 104°F Big fan of the expanding definition of "mild"
This was inevitable. I’ve touched on it in here multiple times but people showing up to work and social functions visibly ill but it’s perfectly fine because “I tested negative for covid” is more of the norm now. I don’t care what you are negative for, stay home.
In fairness, that is a generation upon generation thing that isn’t going to change overnight despite the narrative that it would. Given the focus on testing too, not a surprise that mindset is still there. What needs to happen really is change at governmental level at this stage.
Anywho, fever isnt considered a main symptom of the current rising variant 10 symptoms of Eris strain Sore throat Runny nose Blocked nose Sneezing Dry cough Headache Wet cough Hoarse voice Muscle aches Altered smell According to the Zoe Health Study, the main symptoms are similar to the heavily publicised Omicron ones. These are a sore throat, a runny nose, a blocked nose, sneezing, a cough without phlegm, a headache, a cough with phlegm, a hoarse voice, muscle aches and pains and an altered sense of smell. However, shortness of breath, a loss of smell and a fever are no longer the main symptoms.
I’ve been past due for a booster but waiting for the updated one, is that the right play or better to go ahead and get the existing shot?
My son and I got Covid last week. He just turned1, had a 102 fever for 48 hours before it broke and he was normal the next day. I never had a fever but did have some aches for a couple days and pink eye which is really awesome. Other two kids and wife never tested positive or showed a symptom, crazy how that works. Was my third go around with Covid despite a vaccination and two boosters. This was the easiest in terms of symptoms if you take out the pink eye but that might be the worst part too.
I dunno, maybe? Theres been newer studies about the differences in types of vaccines (mRNA, vector-mediated, etc.) vs. Acute infections and PASC/long covid and variants but i havent read them in a while. We're a month out of updated boosters - i dont remember if its an updated mRNA or just an updated formulation (like they changed the delivery system). Idk worth some googling
Had two initial doses in March/April 2021 and then boosters in December 2021 and October 2022. I assume they'll be offering another this fall?
https://journalstar.com/news/local/...cle_679c6868-3c4a-11ee-bb88-37e66008a988.html You should make your decisions based on a personal risk assessment. Also we have removed all data you might use to make a personal risk assessment
Gotta refresh them every few days. The healing properties diminish as your butthole tissue absorbs the light.
Any info on this "Pirola" variant I keep hearing about? Edit: I found an article on CNN: https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/18/health/coronavirus-variant/index.html
Lots of mutations in the spike but does that mean more contagious, worse symptoms, or just different and main points aren’t changed much …. Not sure yet
Do no comply was trending all last night. Looked around, Alex Jones is saying a TSA person told him we were going back to masks mandates and jabs as well as shutting down economy by October
Chuds mad https://academic.oup.com/cid/advance-article-abstract/doi/10.1093/cid/ciad371/7230618 Looks like some covid meds for much more delicate cases (i.e. kidney disease) are safe
Paper on Covid severity increasing the incidence of diabetes within a year of infection, and thougj vaccination lowers that associated diabetes risk https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2023.08.07.23293778v1 Findings In the pre-vaccination cohort, aHRS for T2DM incidence after COVID-19 (compared to before or without diagnosis) declined from 3.01 (95% CI: 2.76,3.28) in weeks 1-4 to 1.24 (1.12,1.38) in weeks 53-102. aHRS were higher in unvaccinated than vaccinated people (4.86 (3.69,6.41)) versus 1.42 (1.24,1.62) in weeks 1-4) and for hospitalised COVID-19 (pre-vaccination cohort 21.1 (18.8,23.7) in weeks 1-4 declining to 2.04 (1.65,2.51) in weeks 52-102), than non-hospitalised COVID-19 (1.45 (1.27,1.64) in weeks 1-4, 1.10 (0.98,1.23) in weeks 52-102). T2DM persisted for 4 months after COVID-19 for ∼73% of those diagnosed. Patterns were similar for Type 1 diabetes, though excess incidence did not persist beyond a year post-COVID-19. Interpretation Elevated T2DM incidence after COVID-19 is greater, and persists longer, in hospitalised than non-hospitalised people. It is markedly less apparent post-vaccination. Testing for T2DM after severe COVID-19 and promotion of vaccination are important tools in addressing this public health problem. Evidence before this study We searched PubMed for population-based observational studies published between December 1st 2019 and July 12th 2023 examining associations between SARS-CoV-2 infection or COVID-19 diagnosis (search string: SARS-CoV-2 or COVID* or coronavirus*) and subsequent incident diabetes (search term: diabetes). Of nineteen relevant studies; eight had a composite outcome of diabetes types, six stratified by diabetes type and five pertained to type-1-diabetes (T1DM) only. We did not identify any studies relating to gestational or other types of diabetes. Eleven studies were from the US, three from the UK, two from Germany, one from Canada, one from Denmark and one from South Korea. Most studies described cumulative relative risks (for infection versus no infection) one to two years post-SARS-CoV-2 infection of 1.2 to 2.6, though four studies found no associations with T1DM after the post-acute period. All studies lacked the power to compare diabetes relative risk by type, severity, and vaccination status in population subgroups. One study examined relative risks by vaccination status, but this used a composite outcome of diabetes and hyperlipidaemia and was conducted in a predominantly white male population. Two studies of T1DM found no evidence of elevated risk beyond 30 days after COVID-19 diagnosis, whilst two reported elevated risks at six months. Two studies of type 2 diabetes (T2DM) examined relative risks by time period post-infection: one study of US insurance claims reported a persistent association six months post-infection, whereas a large UK population-based study reported no associations after 12 weeks. However, the latter study used only primary care data, therefore COVID-19 cases were likely to have been under-ascertained. No large studies have investigated the persistence of diabetes diagnosed following COVID-19; key to elucidating the role of stress/steroid-induced hyperglycaemia. Added value of this study This study, which is the largest to address the question to date, analysed linked primary and secondary care health records with SARS-CoV-2 testing and COVID-19 vaccination data for 15 million people living in England. This enabled us to compare the elevation in diabetes incidence after COVID-19 diagnosis by diabetes type, COVID-19 severity and vaccination status, overall and in population subgroups. Importantly, excess diabetes incidence by time period since infection could also be quantified. Since healthcare in the UK is universal and free-at-the-point-of-delivery, almost the entire population is registered with primary care. Therefore the findings are likely to be generalisable. We found that, before availability of COVID-19 vaccination, a COVID-19 diagnosis (vs. no diagnosis) was associated with increased T2DM incidence which remained elevated by approximately 30% beyond one year after diagnosis. Though still present (with around 30% excess incidence at eight weeks), these associations were substantially attenuated in unvaccinated compared with vaccinated people. Excess incidence was greater in people hospitalised with COVID-19 than those who were not hospitalised after diagnosis. T1DM incidence was elevated up to, but not beyond, a year post COVID-19. Around 73% of people diagnosed with incident T2DM after COVID-19 still had evidence of diabetes four months after infection.
I was knocked on my ass over the weekend. I felt like the times I would wake up in college swearing I would never drink again x10. Head ache, body aches, and I couldn't focus for shit. I couldn't play video games or watch anything on TV. Just laid in silence as my golden retriever gradually stacked dozens of toys next to me.
I tested positive on Friday. Last week, I didn't feel sick, but I was insanely tired. Like falling asleep at traffic lights and drive through line tired. I slept for three days basically and don't feel tired anymore, but now my throat is killing me. Never had a fever or any other symptoms except my eyes have been watering like crazy. A lady I work with missed all of last week with it. Her chest congestion was horrible.
One of my buddies that tested positive over the weekend was told by the clinic “everyone we have tested recently is positive.”
Got some clown a couple desks over from me coughing up a storm. Said he “hates these summer colds”. Might be ducking out to WFH soon.
I've been having a bunch of sinus issues, I took a rapid test yesterday and it was negative. I think this is mostly related to the wildfire smoke I'm not used to dealing with, I had a moderate headache all Sunday and have been phlegmy in the morning. The one time I had COVID I didn't have similar issues so I think I'm fine but guess I should get a real test soon to be safe.