Does Wisconsin have the best hospital capacity in the world or something? That cases/100k rate is ridiculous and deaths don’t seem that high. Republican fuckery or...?
Right. So the ICU is at 85% capacity and it’s still 2 weeks away from feeling the shitstorm happening now. Welp
WI is preparing to use a field hospital built in April. ~500 beds. https://madison.com/ct/news/local/g...cle_b5485f75-e939-5a67-8985-b4a6a73b7cf4.html
Serious question.. can government officials be charged for their handling of the virus? This is absolute insanity.
It’s possible that they can be tried for falsifying data and for knowingly causing the distribution of misinformation that leads to harm. If it can be proven that any of them profited in the collection and distribution of medical supplies they could be tried. As far as POTUS, he can probably provide evidence that his medical advisors gave him uncertain advice early. Due to the size of the country and differing local conditions he allowed Governors to make the key decisions, blah blah blah.
I wonder what percentage of people go to those things thinking its fake, get sick or know someone who gets sick, and then changes their mind. I'm sure its a tiny percentage given how crazy they all seem but it can't be 0%. He may very well be losing support with each and every rally.
Even further than that most people don't think he's taken it seriously enough/done enough and every time he holds one of those rallies (and then people get sick and it's in the news) it just reminds everyone of it.
Everyone in his house came back negative. He's getting tested again today to make sure it wasn't a false positive.
the county was added to the state watchlist yesterday so naturally all the restaurants were packed last night
My 14 yr old boy got off school yesterday with a 99 degree fever and terrible sore throat. Woke up this morning with a 102 fever and still had the bad sore throat. Called teledoc and got him a prescription of antibiotics, hopefully it’s just strep, he always gets it a few times a year. Dr said to take him in Monday for a Covid test if it doesn’t improve. :fingerscrossed:
The response is amusing but the science and data don't exactly suggest the planes themselves are a major risk factor here. We still haven't heard any stories about a significant event caused by a super-spreading passenger
Yeah I’ve seen multiple studies on this all suggesting the air turnover and filtration on planes is high enough to prevent mass spread, especially with masks added to the equation.
Yea we had a plane from Pakistan land in Copenhagen in the spring and they ended up tracing like 50 cases back to the plane.
Air travel is definitely some risk and there has been spreading linked to flights. But it doesn’t seem it is an elevated risk compared to a lot of other things in society, so air travel gets a bit too much negative attention imo. I’m flying home in a couple of months, and if case #s where I am now are lower than the case #s at home, it seems a bit much that I’m singled out and have to quarantine for 14 days upon arrival. The quarantine makes more sense for places like New Zealand that have 0 cases or low case #s, since I’d actually represent an elevated risk coming from abroad.
I still feel like if I wanted to catch the virus, going to an airport and taking a plane would be my best bet.
There seem to be studies coming out that it's not hugely unsafe to fly.... https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/3665469001
I mean, I get that the environment itself might not be more dangerous than your house, so that’s re-assuring. But you have control over who you bring over/likely have a semblance of an idea of where your guests have been. And that’s not even considering the airport.
I have had dozens of covid patient exposures, had a covid patient directly cough into my face for 30 mins while placing a difficult NG tube, have traveled to mexico, Florida, Chicago in the past 2 months, have had multiple assistants and additional support staff that I work in close proximity to test positive over the past 2 months. Gave blood last week and still don’t have antibodies. Was also negative for them back in May. It’s almost like masks work. I will say I try to wear a KN95 whenever possible though especially on flights. I’d be lying if there wasn’t a part of me that wishes I had the friggin antibodies already though.
I don’t think airports are that bad. Most are spacious enough, especially given that they’re not even close to near full capacity right now. The plane itself is dicier, especially if you’re sitting super close a positive person. But that’s not close to being a guarantee + masks will be required. Yeah it’s more unsafe than staying at home 24/7, but doesn’t seem to be materially different risk wise from other things you can do like gyms, restaurants, bars, stores, etc.
Idk how the air circulation on an airplane works and they're making passengers wear masks so maybe risk is somewhat mitigated but Fauci has said he would not get on a plane right now and I tend to default to him
The studies assume perfect mask wearing for the duration of the flight, which means you should be okay unless you’re on a flight with a Republican member of Congress.
Wasn't there someone on here who did actuary type work with Delta and said they'd done very well with it according to the science?
I still don't understand the science behind planes being safe. I travel a lot for work (or at least I used to) and I don't get sick often. But most of the times I've been sick it has been shortly after flying for work. Sure, maybe I was just catching stuff from whatever city I was visiting or the airports, but planes always seem like a bit of a petri dish, to me.
Air on an airplane is shoved through a system that would filter out the virus every couple of minutes. So I do legitimately believe that the risk to passengers more than a row or two away is pretty minimal - certainly less than a similarly enclosed space with that degree of distancing. I do think there is some risk to those immediately around an infected person, and think the “no cases” figure is bullshit because we don’t do sufficient contact tracing to have that degree of confidence (particularly as the background rate of infection continues to rise/stay high).
If I remember correctly that’s a bit of an urban legend. People get sick more often traveling, but mainly due to jet lag, living a more unhealthy lifestyle while away (less sleep, drinking more), and, as you mentioned, picking up things from the place(s) they’re visiting.