I guess this would be the first time the CDC covered their ass in a statement. dtx didn't even disagree with the thesis of the piece he referenced, he just didn't like the guy who wrote it. This was from February: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/07/scourge-hygiene-theater/614599/ As long as people wear masks and don’t lick one another, New York’s subway-germ panic seems irrational. In Japan, ridership has returned to normal, and outbreaks traced to its famously crowded public transit system have been so scarce that the Japanese virologist Hitoshi Oshitani concluded, in an email to The Atlantic, that “transmission on the train is not common.” Like airline travelers forced to wait forever in line so that septuagenarians can get a patdown for underwear bombs, New Yorkers are being inconvenienced in the interest of eliminating a vanishingly small risk. Finally, and most important, hygiene theater builds a false sense of security, which can ironically lead to more infections. Many bars, indoor restaurants, and gyms, where patrons are huffing and puffing one another’s stale air, shouldn’t be open at all. They should be shut down and bailed out by the government until the pandemic is under control. No amount of soap and bleach changes this calculation.
Bow down to your Google overload ;) What does 1:10,000 mean in this context do you think? That for every 10,000 cases one came from a surface or that if 10,000 people touch surfaces with Covid on it and then wipe their nose only one will be infected?
I certainly agree that the chances are very low given that none of us are *that* capable of the thoroughness required to truly eliminate contamination of our hands minute by minute/the discipline needed to avoid touching your face... and the fact that there's so little evidence of that transmission taking place. But I also don't think we really really know, even now. If someone contracted the thing after hanging out with someone else infected, it's unlikely they would have gotten it due to shared surfaces and touching the face or whatever, but we really aren't going to know for certain most of the time. Oops Dipshit.
I wrote an essay on knowledge and knowing in my freshman philosophy class. I’d prefer to not revisit that lol
Not sure. Early testing for infectiousness from surfaces was to apply coronavirus, I think mixed with water or mucus or something, on a bunch of different surfaces/clothes/whatever, and then take swabs of those gross surfaces over the course of a couple hours/weeks and see if it can still infect tissues/cells. The earliest critiques of those studies were the amount of inoculum they would paint on to the surfaces, being very excessive. Insofar as contact tracing picking out transmission via surface touching, no idea.
This goes back to my post in the mass shooting thread about how a certain segment of the population does dangerous and insane shit and are still deemed as safe to amongst the rest of society.
As per usual, seems like another great temperament to have on the force...big loss, the criminals have won.
Huh, wonder if he now realizes mindsets like his resulted in a couple hundred thousand preventable deaths.
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01395-z Tissue engineering is so fucking cool. Sci fi shit
While Minnesota has lifted all mask mandates, the city of Minneapolis hasn't, so my apartment building still requires them in indoor public spaces. Because I'm not a jagoff, I adhere to that rule. So I wear it in the hallways and down the elevator, and then when I leave my building to go outside, sometimes I forget I was wearing it in the first place and continue to wear it outside. No big deal, eventually while outside I remember I don't need it anymore and take it off. It's funny to me that the Fuzzys of the world might see someone like me outside in a scenario like that and instantly assume I'm some "queen" who is scared of my own shadow. In reality, it's just that masks aren't so oppressive that I have to rip it off the second I'm outside.
At an outdoor patio bar tonight with a guy playing live music and it’s my first time hearing live music in like a year and a half at least. It’s so awesome. It’s been a long year fellas. We deserve any moments of happiness we can get
Face the nation doing a feature on the origin of covid 19 and Wuhan. All the racist shit Trump wanted to stoke while in the midst of the darkest days of the “hoax” was not timely or productive. Now that we’re in the back end it’ll be interesting to see how things develop.
The sentiment amongst people I know that refuse to get the vaccine took the releasing of mandates and recommendations from local governments to mean “it’s over.” So that’s how this is playing out here and I imagine also in other red pockets. Need some sort of incentives to get these numbers up now that “you don’t have to wear a mask” has the anti vax Trumpers spiking the victory ball. Thankful on a personal level to be vaccinated but really hate it that the public at large is too stupid to put this behind us.
I’d say 75% of the stores I’ve been in this weekend no longer have employees wearing masks and almost no customers with them as well
Mandate expired here middle of last week, went to the grocery store today and I was one of like 5-6 people wearing a mask. Like most of the past year I was surprised even though I shouldn’t have been. I’ve been wearing mine just because I don’t really think it’s a big deal and also I’m sure the one time I didn’t bring it, I’d be at a place that still required it lol My county is at like 57% fully vaccinated for 16+ demo.
Hatworks lady had 30 smth different brands supplying her and she's down to like 3 now gl with your hat selling business lady lololllololl
Thatll free up her time to become a Congresswoman in no time. Either that or get ready for the MyPillow and Hats merger
I see a bunch of people in our park wearing them still. We are surrounded by high rise apartments so I imagine people just put them on to get out of the building and just leave them. I ran into a store yesterday and I put mine on when I got out of the car and caught some looks of people walking by without them leaving a restaurant. I just put it on before because it’s easier than having to mess with it outside of the store and it doesn’t bother me at all. Still work out in masks as well. Our son is 1 so it’s up to us to keep him protected so it’s a no brainer to continue wearing them.
Peru now leads the world in deaths per capita after adjustment made to its counting. https://news.yahoo.com/peru-leads-global-mortality-rate-183952477.html
Lucky you. The government has implemented any American covid conscious persons wishlist of policies, and still can’t get control of the virus. 9pm-5am can’t be outside; Sunday no one is allowed outside; no international travel (until recently); restaurants at 25% capacity; men allowed outside m w f, females t th sat; no transportation unless it’s a taxi; only one person per household can leave. A rolling list of policies. Just very hard to get control of it in a poor country where people say they’d rather die of covid than hunger. Economy over there is in complete shambles. My sister in-laws friends with college degrees are selling home cooked chicken door to door. There’s just no work right now.
Bleh that's awful. We had a lot of stuff booked that we had to fight to get our money back on. Pretty obvious everyone is hurting over there right now. They're trying to hold onto all those pre-paid tickets.
this where America should be dumping vaccines on South America- geopolitically this could be a huge win we need to keep the Chinese out of SA
you already lost that battle, if that's the goal. Chile is fastest vaccinated country in LatAm and it's pretty much all sinopharm. Peru is 1/2-1/3 sinopharm, 1/3 astrazeneca thru COVAX, and rest pfizer or sputnik. At least in Peru people still are major skeptical of sinopharm and the chinese government.