CoronaVirus Disease (COVID-19) Thread : One year and 400,000 lives later

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  1. Eathan Edwards

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  2. tjsblue

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  3. a.tramp

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    So season 4 episode 1 of The Resident is amazing. The scene where the nurse gets intubated is so powerful.

    I know it is a show and may not be 100% scientifically or medically accurate but it is still great.
     
  4. infected donkey

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    Local pharmacies are giving the extra doses out of the vial before they expire to teachers/anyone they know around here since not enough of the front line workers are signing up to take them so they don't waste the vial doses. Great fucking roll out we have going on here.
     
  5. orangebl00d

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    Gonna watch this show to see how accurate it is.

    I’ve had to do some (with my preceptor looking over my shoulder) in the ICU. The first time I was asked to do it, I had to watch a video in 1.75X on the way up in the elevator on the proper way to do it.

    They barely teach you the relevant clinical shit in med school. In the room, there’s like 7 people and another doctor on a zoom call looking in. On top of that, there’s 8-10 standing outside the glass door just looking in. I’m a pretty confident dude in my abilities, but the first 15 secs before doing it I have to give myself a pep talk and do my best to stabilize my hand on the dude’s face so you couldn’t see me shaking everywhere. /CoolStoryBro
     
  7. Tobias

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    the people who think things will be somewhat normal by late summer are fools. it’s going to be years. feels like we haven’t reckoned with how long we are going to be stuck in this because of how stupid our population is
     
  8. a.tramp

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    Trying to figure out how to word this. So this episode did not dive off into as much medical jargon as normal (specific cases, symptoms, treatments, etc). They focused on the drama surrounding covid. Lack of resources, lack of preparedness, hospital execs worried about the bottom line, consequences of hospital execs actually putting lives ahead of the bottom line, frontline worker isolation & fatigue. They did not go into detail about intubation from a technical standpoint. But focused on the implications surrounding it. The nurse, and everyone treating her, knew how bad of shape she was in and that there was a great possibility she would never see the other aide of it. Combination of script and great acting captured that without even having to say it. Just a great show/episode.
     
  9. Pasta88

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    That’s what baffles me. Even if you forget about all of the people dying of covid, do you not want normal life to return? What do these people think the solution to covid will be besides the vaccine?
     
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  10. Illinihockey

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    Covid isn't a real thing, in the alternative they'll just get it and be fine and then be immune.
     
  11. Tobias

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    at our current vaccination rate it will take 7 years to reach herd immunity

    obviously biden taking over will help but do people really think we are going to get that timeline down to 7 months???
     
  12. Illinihockey

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    Who can get shots thus far has been very restrictive and they've been only vaccinating half of those people to have booster shots held in reserve. If they opened up shots to everyone, everywhere would be out of shots right now. They need to get the willing vaccinated first, then see where we are at.
     
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  13. theregionsitter

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    No, 50% of the US population will easily refuse to get vaccinated. The 50% who want will get it quicker than that as the rollout accelerates
     
  14. One Two

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    I am hoping that with Trump gone Rs will drop their weird virus denying and realize that having to pay people and businesses stimulus checks for another year isn’t the best plan economically, and that not only a reinvigorated vaccine rollout but also encouraging people to get the vaccine is the only way to pull us out of this hell. Tuberville of all fucking people is suddenly on board with fighting the virus so I think it’s possible.
     
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  15. Illinihockey

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    biden needs to work behind the scenes to get big businesses on board with requiring it as a condition to work and colleges as a condition of enrollment. People will come around then. Same thing with schools when a vaccine is available to kids
     
  16. Tobias

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    i do not think its gonna be 7 years once some of the rollout kinks are ironed out

    but the amount of people straight up refusing it now is scary. and that is within the medical community. god only knows what it will be with the rest of the population. we're stuck in this for the forseeable future
     
  17. One Two

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    Need to get it approved for kids under 16 first but bigger issue is just getting people already approved to take the dang shots
     
  18. Tobias

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    let me get the shot so i can bully all my relatives and friends who are even considering not getting the shot
     
  19. John McGuirk

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    Possibly, although the kicker is that people have to be willing. I think we have to realize that this is a ramp up and that there are a number of factors that have contributed to the slow rate of vaccination thus far. We are only one month in. We are opening up to people 65+. Let’s see where we are in another month
     
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  20. Tarpon Nole

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    Honestly, I think sporting events requiring proof before buying tickets would be more beneficial for getting these idiots to get a shot
     
  21. Baron

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    Didn't ticketmaster say they would either need proof of vaccine or a recent test to get into a concert? I can't recall.
     
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  22. Tarpon Nole

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    Idk, but that would be big
     
  23. Tobias

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    there is no way to enforce this imo. not without causing 2+ hour wait times at the gates
     
  24. Baron

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    Nevermind, looks like they were exploring options back in the fall but are going to leave it up to individual event organizers

    "Ticketmaster said it is exploring a number of safety features that events organisers may want to use, including checks on test and vaccine status, but entry requirements will be up to organisers."
     
  25. Tarpon Nole

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    Maybe make it required for season tickets, tickets bought through ticket office and things like ticket Master? Idk, just a thought I had

    Would be impossible to enforce on secondary market though
     
  26. Baron

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    For fans being allowed to attend the Bills home playoff games, they have to take a test in the prior days leading up to the game at the stadium. If they test positive, they cannot attend and will be issued a refund. Doesn't seem like a bad concept.
    https://www.democratandchronicle.co...o-bills-game-vs-ravens-cuomo-says/6631283002/
     
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  27. ono

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    The secondary market has been dying anyway as teams, leagues and venues take control of resale and do away with paper tickets. I think it may be easier to enforce than you think.

    Of course it will accelerate the demise of the secondary market which sucks for the consumer, but by going digital and controlling resellers, uploading a vaccine record could be required before buying and selling tickets.
     
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  29. Tobias

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    do we hit 5k a day?
     
  30. bertwing

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    Do I hear 6k?
     
  31. Tarpon Nole

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  32. JGator1

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    "CoViD wIlL gO aWaY aFtEr ThE eLeCtIoN" -Rafael Cruz
     
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  33. Tobias

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    new guidelines for NC

    the idiots at my job got declared essential business so looks like i am next up since we're in phase 2 rn

    i have busted my ass keeping this country running so it is nice to be recognized with a shot
     
  34. a.tramp

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    So, I really wish assholes would start stepping in line so we can come close to getting past this. Sitting in my car in the hospital parking lot and this is the only communication I get as wife’s surgery is now at 175% of anticipated time, and it started right on schedule. It is a routine surgery but fuck, the mind runs wild when you can not talk with anyone.

    I can’t imagine the stress if my wife was undergoing something more serious...

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  35. Tobias

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    "your loved one is off to a farm upstate and things are totally fine"
     
  36. ono

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    My wife had a minor surgery a week ago and had the same deal, I couldn't come in, could only talk to the doc via phone, etc. It is a shitty feeling not being able to be there, even if it is routine.

    Of course we saw an older couple came in together, breaking the rules about no guests, and wearing masks wrong. I about ran them over with my car.

    Hope all is well and it's just a communication breakdown from the nurses while she's in recovery.
     
  37. slogan119

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    Microsoft, Oracle, SalesForce, and another company or two are working on vaccination passports, so that may be a thing.
     
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    Oh, as an “essential logistics worker” I’m now in line for an appointment, confirmed today per the local health department.

    So that’s nice.
     
  39. a.tramp

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    Not exactly a communications breakdown apparently.

    So my wife is 100% okay and coming out of surgery/waking up. But. Her gallbladder/stones were worse than anticipated. She has to stay tonight and have another procedure tomorrow to remove stone(s) that escaped the gallbladder and lodged in the “tubes” (whatever those are). That will be done via the throat by a gastroenterologist. Her recovery from that will determine whether or not she will come home tomorrow or stay tomorrow night as well.

    Sorry medical people if I did not get some terms correct, I got this info from the doc via phone call and I have yet to see her and will not be able to for another 1-2 hours if recovery goes well.
     
  40. pperc

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    does she have Hyperoxaluria?
     
  41. a.tramp

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    Idk, let me google that :lmao:
     
  42. ono

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    My wife had the exact same thing 2 years ago. She got to go home between the two but she said after the second procedure to remove the lodged stone (with the balloon thing), she immediately felt better upon waking up. Wasn't the case after the removal itself. Fingers crossed it's the same thing for you.

    The surgery the other day was actually to clean up some scar tissue we assume resulted from the gallbladder removal. Hopefully that can be avoided too.
     
  43. a.tramp

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    Google tells me that she has never been diagnosed with such.
     
  44. jac3672

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    Seems like if you could vaccinate everyone 75+ then the hospitalizations would drastically decline (assuming the vaccine works halfway decently). An ER doc friend of mine said, like we all know, that the major problem for the hospitals are 75+ (especially the more elderly) and so now we can't do "elective procedures" that are not at all elective because of the lack of beds. Huge problem.

    If we can get the hospitals in order, then we should be able to live life normally pretty quickly... full football stadiums, concerts, and such. I'd assume over the next 4 months, every working adult or those with kids have been either exposed multiple times or have been vaccinated or both. No way you can hide from this thing for over a year as contagious as it is.

    Hopefully, these exposures and the vaccine will cause the symptoms to be milder cold/flu symptoms so that we can move on. But I think the hospital capacities will be the determining factor. I would assume even with mutations, by being exposed or vaccinated, you're still providing your body with a little extra ability to fight it.
     
  45. Baron

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    you mean to tell me lechnerd isn't doing the procedure? smh
     
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  46. Illinihockey

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    LTC is the biggest problem for sure but really it’s all senior citizens that are at risk.
     
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    My mom who is 78 got notified today that she will be able to get vaccinated very soon. She is a retired nurse and had been volunteering at Sanford until I made her stop in March. I had heard of hospital volunteers in other states that had received their shots so I had her call Sanford and ask if they were vaccinating volunteers since they are emailing her every couple weeks since they are short volunteers. Most of the volunteers are retired so i would have thought they would have added them after their staff was vaccinated?

    North Dakota does have the highest rate of percentage of vaccine used in the country as we have used almost 75% of the vaccine we have received so far. West Virginia is at 64% and California at 25% for comparison.
     
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  48. Pile Driving Miss Daisy

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    Yeah states desperately need any former and current medical workers to volunteer to just freaking give people shots. A big excuse I've seen, here at least, is a lack of staff and not as much a lack of vaccine.
     
  49. Tobias

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    i have youtube. let me get vaccinated and i will work every weekend for a month sticking needles into people's arms most likely possibly if the weather cooperates