my very educated and plugged in brother does this kinda stuff. wife’s a nurse, he side hustles at a fucking gym, kid goes to daycare that doesn’t require masks, and they’re around my parents and grandparents 3x a week. they’re going to fucking Disney the week before Christmas. people seriously think this is just happening around them and they’re just insulated for some reason
Exact same. They all wear masks and they fully believe how bad it is but it just can’t happen to them. My biggest concern is them giving it to my parents and my father giving it to my grandfather
I guess I don't understand how you'd expect anything else when there is zero (in fact negative) leadership from the federal government and even state and local governments. The public has essentially been left to figure out how to handle the virus to themselves. And because of the lack of journalistic integrity in this country, the "leadership" that the public does get, is all over the map and based mostly on your political beliefs and where you consume your news.
sucks to be on complete different sides of the spectrum on this with people who know better. esp with the holidays coming up. my wife is 35 weeks pregnant so we’ll have that going on around the time bro gets back from Disney. finally coming to grips that I’m going to have to tell my parents not to come see their new grandkid if they’ve been around my brother and them. what a fucking mess
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...-no-protection-against-covid-19-idINKBN27Y1YW moderate to no protection seems like quite the range https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M20-6817 The recommendation to wear surgical masks to supplement other public health measures did not reduce the SARS-CoV-2 infection rate among wearers by more than 50% in a community with modest infection rates, some degree of social distancing, and uncommon general mask use. The data were compatible with lesser degrees of self-protection. Kind of confirms what we know that masks don't protect you from getting the virus, they're meant to protect you from spreading the virus
Fuck Reuters for that framing. Sure, it's accurate (and not really anything new), but it has total disregard for the psychology of the matter.
1) these things are absolutely not the same 2) if you think I was trying to suggest that you need to do things the "China way" in order to combat the spread
i don't get this. people say it about cooper here and it makes no sense nc is open. i can go to a movie. i can go to a panthers game. i can eat inside any restaurant. i can go to church. there is no lockdown whatsoever
Are there lots of restaurants or other businesses that are turning folks away because of capacity limits? Seems like most people are staying away of their own volition.
This was a problem they had in Wuhan where it was actually fairly safe to go out but many didn't out of fear. It's especially stupid to expect it here where were getting destroyed by it.
Carnegie Mellon has a nice dashboard. https://covidcast.cmu.edu/?sensor=i...olor&mode=timelapse®ion=42003&signalR=true Oct. 18 Nov. 15
Kinda. Their system is pretty inconsistent, and you can be screwed if you're not in your work administrative district.
Late to this conversation, but the specific issue here seems to be part of a larger trend that this guy wrote about nearly four years ago: http://www.slate.com/articles/healt...cure_it_will_fail_he_ll_get_off_for_free.html Many who trust Trump to heal our body politic do so for the same reasons that people like my friend—normal, reasonable people—trust quacks to heal their bodies. They have been swayed by a powerful confluence of factors—specifically, epistemic uncertainty, existential panic, and anti-elitism. These factors ensure that even when reality hits, when insurance rates go up but the wall does not, the marks will place the blame somewhere else.
that's so incredibly stupid. ask your MIL what your kids will feel if they give her Covid and kill her. Does she think that will be good for their psyche for the next 30 years?
We made our parents get tested before they came and saw our son. They all gladly did and isolated until they got results back (all but 1 are retired and my mil was off work anyways). The only thing is we cannot go and visit them due to my brother refusing to have his family tested.
And fuck the makers of n95 masks for not making enough of them that they could be more widely available
We should be afraid. If not for yourselves than for the other more vulnerable people in our society. Hundreds of thousands of people are dying unnecessarily because not enough people were afraid for them.
using the same word they use, "fear", doesn't combat the narrative. i'm trying to be a bit nuanced here.
it's her decision to risk death. it's my decision to allow (or not) my kids to be the ones to potentially bring it on her.
Fear is what built society. It’s what keeps you alive. Fear isn’t - in and of itself - a bad thing. Irrational fear is bad. It isn’t irrational to fear the effects of this virus on our population.
pperc or others: This may be a dumb question so sorry if it is or has been addressed. My son is coming home from Clemson next week until January. He tested positive in October while there and had a relatively mild case. He is being pretty lax in his daily life now because he’s got as he says “those sweet antibodies”. Question is can he spread it to us if he is exposed to it secondhand? He wouldn’t have it himself but could he be a carrier of sorts? I guess I’m just trying to figure how strict to be with him while he’s back home for the rest of us and the grandparents he will likely see over the break.
There's over 10 million people in LA County so even if there's thousands of people attending those parties it's only a fraction of a percent of the total population. The Hollywood Hills crowd also isn't travelling much outside of their bubble on the west side. The restrictions starting on Friday are much more for all the people in areas like the Valley and South Bay that are going chain restaurants and sitting around drinking for hours after their meal is finished. We went back to Michigan to visit family in September and it was shocking how much less serious people were there. Masks are referred to as chin warmers because they were mandatory when shopping but no one wears them properly. LA is going to get hit just due to the sheer size of the area but what's happening in the Midwest is so much worse than what we will encounter when adjusted for population size