CoronaVirus Disease (COVID-19) Thread : Fuck em, should’ve gotten vaccinated

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  1. Doc Louis

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    Just a reminder if everyone gets caught up on work to shut down early so no one is stuck in holiday traffic trying to get downstairs.
     
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  2. Lawnole23

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    My 2 year old was getting into the cabinet that has cleaning products. I almost stopped him but fuck it he needs to build up a tolerance and immunity.
     
  3. bro

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    I doubt it. Because most people think he is strongly in favor of opening the government and MAGAs blame Governors.
     
  4. xec

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    Agreed. I can’t get real excited without also seeing the results to other questions.
     
  5. Prospector

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    Armed 70-year-old tried to steal helicopter so he could fly to a hospital and free quarantined coronavirus patients
    Michigan 70-year-old threatened to shoot police, dispatchers and hospital power supplies on Sunday
    Police in Michigan have arrested an armed 70-year-old man who allegedly plotted to steal a US Coast Guard helicopter and rescue hospitalised coronavirus patients.

    Jesse T McFadden, from Omer, Michigan, was charged with four felonies following the series of events that started around 8am on Sunday morning.

    Mr McFadden allegedly threatened to shoot Arenac County dispatchers and place them into “quarantine” during a phone call at 7.58am, said Hampton Township Police Lt Michael Wedding.

    McFadden told dispatchers that he would shoot-up a police station and head to a hospital in Standish, Michigan, so he could shoot out the power and demand keys to ambulances.

    He “wanted to disrupt the power to the hospital, unlock the doors, and release patients under COVID-19 quarantine”, read a court document on the case.
    Police alleged that the 70-year-old also planned to steal a helicopter or boat from the US Coast Guard Station Saginaw River at Essexville.

    McFadden arrived later at the coast guard station at 10.37am, and could be seen in surveillance cameras stationed outside the security gate.

    “He was trying to punch in the code and then he had called them and made threats he was going to ram the gate,” said Lt Wedding.

    Arenac County Central Dispatch warned police about Mr McFadden’s motives, with concerns that he was an ex-Michigan Militia member armed with guns.

    Mr McFadden departed the coast guard station, before Michigan state police noticed his vehicle parked at an Essexville gas station at around 11.15am.

    Lt Wedding said the driver’s side door was open and the engine was still running, when state police arrived at the scene alongside Bay County Sheriff’s deputies and local public safety officers.

    Investigators said authorities found a loaded shotgun on the passenger seat of Mr McFadden’s SUV.

    Mr McFadden, who was confronted when he walked out of the gas station store, was then tasered, arrested and taken into custody.

    Damnit Michigan, control your Peepaws
     
  6. Why?Pokes

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    I wasn’t arguing with you; I wasn’t even talking to you. I posted the article from CNBC and you picked a fight with me.

    Yes, I read the sources I posted. You’re correct: they’re not studies of the potential for COVID to transfer via ventilation ducts (Nor did I say they were) because those studies haven’t been done. It may be years before they’re done. They also don’t claim to believe that HVAC spread is a driving cause, only that it should be a concern.

    Whether or not it is capable of transmitting through aerosol is incredibly important because we know aerosol transmission occurs in HVAC systems without proper filters with regards to a host of other viruses, and little reason to believe COVID would be appreciably different.

    That case study you posted is great evidence for the ability of the virus to spread via droplets, which no one is arguing. It does not examine any factors related to the design of the building, it’s age, ventilation system, HVAC use practices, etc... It could not explain the instance of the 10th floor positive who had never been to the 11th floor. It’s data regarding the relative non-severity of secondary infections among family members may prove to be inconsistent with the data coming out of New York. Furthermore, the cell phone tracking studies, which repeatedly rank NY near the top of the country in following stay at home mandates, flies in the face of your original assertion. Likewise, the restaurant AC case study out of China finds opposite results of the call center case study (I.e., patients were not seated closely, did not have repeat exposure, were not in the building for more than an hr or so, etc...)

    TLDR: The point wasn’t that there is a lot of data supporting HVAC spread—it was that there is not good data either way, and plenty of credible sources disagree with your position that the “data” indicates it isn’t a cause for concern.
     
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  7. Doc Louis

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    You’d think they would’ve learned their lesson after the Michigan State scandal
     
  8. pperc

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    and officially ignoring you. i can't waste my time with your goalpost moving bullshit anymore. continue to believe if you want that those NYCers were staying inside and they got infected because they live in a high rise with connected units. IDGAF anymore.
     
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  9. Why?Pokes

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    You do you man, sorry my comments upset you so much.
     
  10. Cornelius Suttree

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    been looking to get back into soccer officiating after a few years off. Now is definitely the time
     
  11. ned's head

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    Dreadful stats for all categories. We're too stupid to survive a pandemic

     
  12. fucktx

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  13. snooks

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    NC ended flu season with 186 deaths. So far there are 716 Covid deaths. I'm not the best at math but one doesn't seem like the other. Plus I believe flu season had longer to do damage, but what do I know, I don't listen to Alex Jones.
     
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    FUCK YEAH DALLAS
     
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  15. snooks

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    :peekaboo:
     
  16. Cornelius Suttree

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    seeing flags at half-staff at the police station next door, I assumed it was for Memorial Day. Now I see it's because of nearly 100K deaths. Just burn the flags instead of lowering them

    today was by far the longest line I've seen at the food bank, hundreds and hundreds of elderly Asian women :tebow:
     
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  18. theriner69er

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    Not to interject in your little argument, but all HVAC systems have filters. Higher efficiency filters are capable of catching particles as small as viruses and bacteria.

    However, this depends on using the correct filter, proper installation, following maintenance schedules for filter replacement, and air changes (how regularly the volume of air in the room is replace with new, filtered air). The largest risk here appears to be contamination within the room, not between rooms. HVAC systems can help with that by pulling "dirty" air out and replacing it with clean air, but HVAC systems are not designed to do that with the kind of efficiency necessary for that to be an appropriate strategy.

    UV light used in conjunction with fans to circulate air is much more efficient strategy for cleaning air within a room or space, but comes with it's own set of limitations and cautions.
     
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    he's on ignore so idgaf, but i appreciate your expert hvac knowledge. maybe he'll listen to an expert hvac technician if he won't listen to the expert virologist. but again, IDGAF. he's on ignore.
     
  20. theriner69er

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  21. theriner69er

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    To be fair my expertise is in lighting but I've been educated on the HVAC side of things as it relates to this particular topic.
     
  22. Cornelius Suttree

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    honestly strutting your stuff in front of a bunch of hot soccer moms was one of the best parts of the gig

    would be so high and totally self-absorbed
     
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  23. theriner69er

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    I'm a hot soccer dad myself, so I can relate
     
  24. two

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    To be fair, you changed your argument once you were proven wrong and moved the goal posts so you could tell yourself you were right.
     
  25. RavenNole

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    All about pandering to the base now for election reasons. Doesn’t matter how many die.
     
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  26. Henry Blake

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    Look forward to the freedom fighters joining together in enclosed spaces and then bringing CV into the workplace.
     
  27. 941Gator

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    What did Desantis say today?
     
  28. BellottiBold

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    "override the governors"

    uh huh, sure
     
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  29. RavenNole

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    Did he says something? I haven’t seen anything but I also haven’t been paying much attention today
     
  30. Where Eagles Dare

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    States Rights
     
  31. Vito Corleone

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    If they are going to contract it and die, let's get it out of the way before the election
     
  32. slogan119

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    If we’re going to pressure anyone into reopening, let’s let the evangelicals do it so they can burn in hell
     
  33. chuckmasterflex

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  34. BrentTray

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    But muh states rights!
     
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  35. fucktx

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    hell yeah no separation of church and state

    fuck it
     
  36. fucktx

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    states should let churches open and then force a mandatory quarantine on anyone in attendance
     
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  38. theriner69er

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    Not sure if it was covered here, but he said something about the woman at the dept of health, Rebekah Jones, having a degree in journalism, communications, and geography, not a "data scientist", said she was not the "chief architect" of the state's data dashboard, and held more of a data entry role. Her job was to put the data the scientists gave her onto the website. She was reassigned from that position because she was putting alternate, invalid data onto the site.

    Also said he didn't understand how she remained in that position after it was revealed that she's facing active criminal charges of cyber stalking and sexual harassment, which he said his administration has a zero tolerance policy towards.
     
  39. bertstare

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    God I love this woman
     
  40. HatterasJack

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    The narrative of Trump as any sort of Christian is perhaps the greatest illusion ever created.
     
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  41. fucktx

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    shocker you love that trash
     
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  42. theriner69er

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    This has been a point of contention of mine since day 1. I have to have my temperature taken before I start work every day, or report if I'm not feeling well. While that is better than nothing, it clearly does not prevent an asymptomatic or pre-sympotomatic spread. Yet this is the current gold standard in maintaining healthy environments.

    Though, what's the alternative? How does an asymptomatic or pre-symptomatic person know if they are infected and spreading the disease or not??
     
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  43. Fran Tarkenton

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    good way to get old people killed is to tell them all to pack their churches
     
  44. Bruce Wayne

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    We have a person that continues to go to church and not practice social distancing, or really any responsible form of mitigation, threatening to sue us because we asked her to wear a mask and gloves in the office
     
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  45. Vito Corleone

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    Would be easy.

    Places for "believers' and places for everyone else

    This would solve the world's problems tbh
     
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  46. steamengine

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    Trash ass humans
     
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  47. bro

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    if old evangelicals want to go get themselves killed, fuck it, whatever.
     
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  48. Drown ‘Em

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    Kayleigh McEnany is such a miserable cunt.