Yeah, we definitely don't talk about Mexico haha. Not sure how that's relevant. Most view him as trying to hurt China through all the trade war stuff. Guess China isn't a monolith, eh?
Also can't have food or drink on public transportation. They fine the shit out of everybody, citizens and tourists.
They also have a pretty favorable opinion on the Trump kids, they were shocked when I told them that the Trump kids are probably even dumber than he is, "Really? But even Hilary during the election said his kids were outstanding"
That doesn't surprise me as much, given Ivanka's fashion influence and the obsession with pop culture.
I won't pretend like I have a tapped in overview for all of China, I'm sure there certainly are portions of the population in China that think that way. The demographic I'm connected to is mostly people that have gotten higher education (which from my parents generation is actually pretty rare, that's probably an entire topic/thread all in of itself) and knows that they're being fed bullshit by the government.
Makes this even more interesting, as that's the demo I'm most exposed to as well. That's a little bit of what I was getting at when I mentioned the dance involved in discussing party business and impacts on our work. Most my age and older know the game and the younger generation all have VPNs.
Granted, the narrative has changed, but when my colleague came back 2.5 weeks ago (Shanghai --> O'Hare), they were stuck in the customs line for 2+ hours. The health screening was 30 seconds of that.
Do you want to quarantine everyone flying from or through Korea for 14 days based on 833 cases, or would you feel better if they took everyone’s temperature even though that wouldn’t reveal if they are incubating the disease?
i've largely come to agree with the idea that containment is a lost cause so super onerous restrictions are largely useless
I flew to Japan in 2009 when swine flu was going on. Everyone got scanned with one of those laser temp scanners before deboarding. Took like an extra hour
The pitfalls of a mobile, integrated society. It's actually pretty surprising that we don't have more frequent public health crises.
I would take people's temperatures for certain. I would ask people if they've been around anyone who has been sick. Not necessarily to quarantine people, but for data purposes.
I'm pretty surprised every time I travel and don't get sick. The airports and planes are cattle cars of people with god knows what from every corner of the globe
anecdotal but we started using disinfecting wipes on all the shit you'll touch on the plane after getting sick on two successive trips and haven't gotten sick since
That's a tricky question this time of the year with higher rates of sicknesses and also not likely to get honest answers anyway.
I tend to get sick, but that's likely more of coming off crazy stress/lack of sleep every time I make the long haul. Planes actually aren't that bad as long as you don't physically touch people. Airports though, especially security lines...
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Deep State Conspiracy. The CDC doctor who went to twitter to warn everyone is the sister of Rod Rosenstien. They are clearly plotting against Trump
The bats sold in that seafood market are known to carry coronavirus but I don’t believe it has been confirmed.
this is going to come off wrong... but... maybe if we weren't driving species to extinction by keeping them as pets and/or eating them, we wouldn't expose our own species to diseases that could kill millions
The market itself may or may not be the origin. It could have been a bat/other carrier at that market, but could also have been a patron of the market who was infected elsewhere (probably by killing/eating bush meat) who then walked around the market and infected others.
i think they modeled/found that the market was not the origin of the virus. and the virus goes from bat -> something else (pangoliers?) -> humans.
Asians need to chill out with eating bats and bush meat. I think we can all agree on that. MERS originated in bats. SARS originated in bats. This shit likely originated in bats. I agree that we don’t know whether something else was infected between the bat and patient zero, and it likely is from the pangolins they suspect, but why the fuck do they keep dealing in bats?
Just like with parts of Africa, this is very difficult to get people to comply with when it’s often rooted in poverty. A peasant looking for some protein doesn’t much care about your smart Western opinions on what should and shouldn’t be eaten
they aren't capturing Pangolins and smuggling them halfway across the planet because there's a lack of protein in the Chinese diet. They're doing it because people think the ground up scales can cure cancer and asthma and such. Same with rhinos and other animals being driven to extinction by dumbfuckery.
Fair point. I hate that we can fail any of our people so much that desperation can lead to them unwittingly causing global chaos. It’s especially shitty that it could be a virtual carbon copy of prior pandemics.
Working in China and dealing on a daily basis with animal origin corona viruses, I firmly believe the “wet markets”, even though culturally entrenched as almost anything in China, will and should be abolished. From a livestock standpoint, these markets also were a vector for a virus that is currently decimating one of the most critical protein sources worldwide. From a virus standpoint, China is the gift that keeps on giving.