Corporate Speak Thread_2024-01_Finalv11-GB.PPTX

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  1. Capstone 88

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    There’s so many factors involved in this on how a person perceived WFH.
    -is their home conducive to productive work?
    -are their children or elderly to take care of?
    -what’s the commute?
    -etc.

    My old role I could be wfh full time and not miss a beat. My new role I need more face to face interaction.
     
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  2. DuffandMuff

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    How do you lose your mind working from home? It's not jail. I'm not here 24/7. I don't understand this TBH. I have a coworker who is anxious to get back in the office because he wants to get out of the house. He's a divorced empty nester with a limited social life. I'm guessing going into the office and bothering coworkers at their desk and in the break room is his social interaction for the day.

    I woke up this morning at 730. Worked for an hour. Then I met my buddy downtown for a coffee and we went to the beach to check the surf. Now I'm back home to work a little longer. Around noon I'll workout, shower and make lunch. Work a couple more hours in the afternoon then have the rest of the day to myself. Mind is at ease.
     
  3. ohhaithur

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    It's lovely to wake up at 8:55, be at my office at 9. Do my laundry between calls, and close my computer at 5:01 without any more chores to do.
     
  4. zeberdee

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    from a professional perspective, I don't really have a job that would allow for that kind of a schedule. it's a lot of interaction, a lot of reacting to things as they unfold. at home I felt cut off from the rest of my team and always trying to fight for the information I needed.

    from a personal perspective, I think it's important to note that my experience working from home was during the height of the pandemic so I was kind of in jail. there was nowhere to go except to pickup groceries so I wasn't really able to enjoy free time other than walks around the neighborhood.

    also, I have three kids so that has a big influence on what I do outside of working hours and it's not always conducive to leaving the house.
     
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  5. Pasta88

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    At the end of the day it’s personal preference, but most of us can’t just go check the surf when it’s below freezing outside on a dark January Tuesday. It’s a lot more tolerable now when there’s more to do outside in nice weather and the days are longer.
     
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  6. zeberdee

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    this is probably the thing I enjoyed most, but I work 10 minutes from home so my commute is minimal and even today I went grocery shopping at lunch and cleaned the kitchen up while I was home so that's still something I can take advantage of in the office.

    I get everyone has different circumstances though and for people who can thrive working from home, I hope they continue to have that opportunity because I think less commuters and less commercial office space is a good thing for the country/world.

    I just felt like my life was on pause while working from home. or maybe treading water is a better way to put it. I'm happy to be back and feel like I'm pushing forward. like I said earlier, I recently accepted a new job and just feel more comfortable having face-to-face interactions.

    I respect differing views on the matter and understand everyone has different factors to consider.
     
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  7. ohhaithur

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    ya know the whole world was on pause for a while
     
  8. DuffandMuff

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    Yeah, I was going to mention that in the heart of the pandemic I could definitely see how it felt like you were never leaving your house.

    Face to face interaction isn't really necessary in my role. A simple call satisfies most issues. If not, we also participate in Teams calls and share screens if necessary. I'll take that every day over having to small talk with a coworker in the break room as I heat up my leftovers.

    I feel like a dark January Tuesday when it's below freezing is when I would be even more happy to WFH. Staying bundled up in warm comfy clothes >>> showering, getting dressed and walking to/from my car in that weather
     
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  9. zeberdee

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    it's true I never really got to experience working from home in a mostly open world. maybe I would like it more.
     
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  10. ohhaithur

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    you would. I feel like I have 3 more hours a day for fun
     
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  11. Pasta88

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    In isolation I agree with you but four months of it was way, way too much. Of course compounded by society being closed those months this year, which shouldn’t be the case in normal times of course. Give me the hybrid approach where I can get a change of scenery and more social interaction for 2-3 days, and then I’ll appreciate those 1-2 days at home a whole lot more.
     
  12. zeberdee

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    I think at the end of the day if I could do a 2-3 day a week hybrid I would be the happiest.
     
  13. jbr

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    This is me.

    Cut out my commute (45 minutes each way to go 13 miles), getting ready in the morning, etc and my day just got a lot more productive. My wife can get more stuff done, I can get more stuff done, and everyone has more time for everything else.

    Thinking about waking up at 6am to take a shower, put on business casual clothes, and surviving near death experiences to get to the office gives me anxiety.
     
  14. zeberdee

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    I hate commuting so much, I'm at the point where I would have to be offered massive, life-changing money to do anything more than 20 minutes.
     
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  15. ono

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    While I was WFH I:

    - lost 20 lbs working out daily and eating lunch at home
    - saved a lot of $ and time by not commuting
    - was able to do random chores and projects around the house while the kids were at school that otherwise I'd never have time for
    - got my job done just as well as I would in the office (perhaps better by forcing the rest of the company to adopt technology that improved workflows and inter-department communication)

    Now that I'm back in the office, I perform the same amount of work while spending more time dicking around on TMB, chatting with co-workers and letting dishes/laundry/grass get long/other crap pile up at home that I simply don't have time to get to.

    It's been probably 7 years since I was as miserable in my career as it I am now that I'm forced to go back into the office since I now know that WFH is a viable, productive option.

    The ideal schedule to me is fully WFH with one week a month (give or take) either in the office or traveling.
     
  16. BellottiBold

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    I said it before and I'll say it again - if there's no WFH when my employer resumes "normal" my morale will be very shot and I'll be seriously considering finding a different gig.
     
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  17. DuffandMuff

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    I think this will be common throughout the entire American workforce.
     
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  18. zeberdee

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    on the flip side, I had a C-level employee at the place I'm leaving tell me in private one day, that anyone they felt took advantage of the pandemic and worked from home when they could have just as easily come into the office would no longer be considered for promotions and any type of advancement. I was shocked he said it out loud, but I wonder how many employers will think or whisper the same things behind closed doors.

    will be an interest dynamic of the post-pandemic corporate world. I think there will be an extraordinary amount of personnel changes.

    also - before someone yells at me, I don't agree with the stance above regarding people working from home in the slightest.
     
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  19. ohhaithur

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    it's no surprise that old white dudes running businesses are going to be idiots
     
  20. jbr

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    Joke’s on them. I have no ambition or opportunity to be promoted for the next ten years. Just gonna ride out the second half of my career collecting that sweet soul sucking corporate paycheck for as long as possible...from the comfort of my extra bedroom.
     
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  21. DuffandMuff

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    Hope their employment practices liability policy is in place.
     
  22. CUgator

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    this is where I’m at. I don’t care about our offices remaining closed, but I do care about the no work travel that goes along with it.
     
  23. BayouMafia

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    I work from home 90% of the time, and I'm currently on a work trip to Seattle. Luckily the two aren't related in my case.
     
  24. Name P. Redacted

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    guy sounds like the typical old boomer cunt
     
  25. Nug

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    The answer is so dependent on whether you have kids and type of job. I also don't have jack shit in common with my co-workers so have zero care for "camaraderie" and that bullllllshit.

    Getting ready + commute, even if you're close, is 30-45 at least. That's each way. Lunch is another hour lost by being in the office. Your looking at 2-2.5 hours of free time/day, 5-10 hours/week, 30-40 hours/month in non-work shit. In stuff you're not getting paid to do.

    My coffee is a shitload better than trash-ass office coffee.
     
  26. Doc Louis

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    I agree. Fresh Sanka is better than stale Sanka.
     
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  27. TC

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    Sounds like different arrangements are ideal for different situations. Crazy.
     
  28. petey23

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    Never left. Felt stuck in office not being able to be out calling on customers.

    We closed a couple times for a day or two and I was out for about 10 days with a mild case of Covid.

    I live close to my office so traffic isn't an issue and I would rather work from office than home when I couldn't meet with customers.
     
  29. racer

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    Hate us cuz u ain’t us
     
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  30. racer

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    And you got covid so point to team wfh
     
  31. Pasta88

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    Maybe I’m naive but I don’t think there will be too many complete assholes like that. I’d be more worried about the subconscious biases, i.e. if a minority WFH close to full time, they’re out-of-sight and out-of-mind compared to those in the office. Especially as time progresses and you have turnover, and can’t simply rely on existing in-person relationships built pre-covid times.
     
  32. Redav

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    I guess it's good you couldn't see customers because you prob would have given a few covid
     
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  33. PSU12

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    I work in the mfg side of a medical device company so pretty much everyone pre-covid was fully in the office. We were in NJ and with the nature of our business everyone not physically building our instruments was asked to work remote for the last year. I have since moved and have no intentions of ever going back full time and if asked will have to change jobs. My boss was completely fine with it but was transparent that it will limit my upward mobility being remote if my team is largely on site. It’s a reasonable stance and I understood that prior to when I moved.
     
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  34. racer

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    I wouldn’t want to commit to and advance within a company stuck in the past like that anyway. It’s not that hard. It’s the old guard scared of change and refusing to adapt.
     
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  35. Nug

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    I haven't verified, but have heard a similar story from my firm -- my boss is a huge asshole, so it's easy to believe -- just haven't ben in the office in over a year.

    In April-May last year, when things were just getting shut down, we still asked staff (about 95% female) to come in to the office, socially distance, etc., but offered WFH as well. Of course, they kept tabs on who came in and who worked from home. At the start of June, all staff who came into the office every day received a little $500 bonus.

    Many people with kids couldn't just come into the office because daycare/schools closed, so WFH was their only option. When this was brought up to my boss, his response was, "it's a personal choice to have kids."
     
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  36. jbr

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    Butts in seats is the most important metric. Every person aged 55+ subscribes to this.

    Someone earlier in the thread talked about managing the work, not the person. That’s how things work in less boomery shops.

    Covid kicked this transition into high gear, but I think it’s still 5-10 years away from true adoption.
     
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  37. PSU12

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    I would say it’s not the norm to be in roles that support manufacturing ops to be 100% remote
     
  38. PAHokie

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    Yeah it’s going to be job/industry specific. I know work can get done remotely, but I also know I can’t teach a new person how to do what we do remotely and I know that I can’t coordinate with other disciplines as well remotely.
     
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  39. racer

    racer Yuma, where I work in software.
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    Obviously some things can’t be done remotely. That’s a given. Anything that happens from a desk, office, or conference room can generally be done from home. Lots of full clowns out there that work with people in different buildings or locations acting like that’s not done remotely. I’d be so bold as to say that a lot of computer operated equipment can be run and monitored remotely with minimal site staff. It’s 2021.
     
  40. Pasta88

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    One thing that’s striking when you read discussions about this online is how many people put up with god awful commutes pre-covid. If you were driving 1.5 hours each way to work then I’m not surprised you’re loving the home office life. It says a lot about urban planning issues worldwide.
     
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  41. Name P. Redacted

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    I’d be very hesitant offering offsite control of equipment.
     
  42. DuffandMuff

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    I swear most olds in executive positions think we all still work on an assembly line. Work isn't getting done unless you've punched your card and are standing on that line.
     
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  43. ono

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    Which is wild because they are the ones traveling the most for business and demanding others do the same.

    If work can continue while I'm sitting in a Marriott or in the airport Chili's..... why can't work continue literally anywhere there is an internet connection?
     
  44. Nug

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    digital nomad my dude. Yes.
     
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  45. racer

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    Anywhere is the new Chili’s.
     
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  47. racer

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  48. Where Eagles Dare

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    It makes sense if you know what they do
     
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