Country with best young talent?

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  1. ChileanNole

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    What country do you take? For me it's gotta be France:

    Umtiti (23)
    Varane (23)
    Dembele (19)
    Pogba (24)
    Rabiot (21)
    Coman (20)
    Martial (21)
    Mbappe (18)
    Bakayoko (22)
    Lemar (20)
    Laporte (22)
    Zouma (22)
    Sarr (18)
    Fekir (23)
    Cornet (20)

    Germany deserves some consideration too with:
    Ter-Stegen (23)
    Tah (20)
    Sule (20)
    Draxler (23)
    Gnabry (21)
    Meyer (21)
    Brandt (20)
    Weigl (21)
    Kimmich (22)
    Werner (21)
    Sane (21)

    Plus, considering past performance you gotta assume that the young Germans will win more.
     
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  2. Popovio

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    Yeah, it's France. You forgot Aymeric Laporte on that list.
     
  3. ChileanNole

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    Oh shit and I love him on FIFA! Yeah their young depth it's ridiculous at this point.
     
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  4. ChileanNole

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    I was thinking about this yesterday while watching Germany v England and noticing how many young Germans were playing. For a long time it seemed like the best young talent was Spain, Brazil and Argentina in whatever order. England has been making strides with their young players too (Ali, Dier, Kane, Rashford, etc.) and Portugal has some gems in Sanches, Martins and B. Silva.
     
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  5. Owsley

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    Don't think this is much of an argument. France is loaded for the next few international tournaments.
     
  6. Owsley

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    How's he been post injury?
     
  7. ChileanNole

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    I agree and what gives them even more of an edge in my book is that all of their young talent is established at world class clubs, but then again the Germans always win international tournaments and their young talent is pretty deep too. More surprised that Brazil and Argentina are "falling behind" but with megastars at key positions they will be fine for a while.
     
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  8. ChileanNole

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    Belgium has loads of talent but I hesitate to put them in the conversation until the win more internationally.

    Also somebody posted the snubbed France XI for this FIFA date and it was ridiculous.
     
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  9. Pasta88

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    Plus Tolisso, M. Sarr, Fekir and others.

    France is just producing a ridiculous amount of talent.
     
  10. Pasta88

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    Plus all the players who are French born and raised but play for other countries. Benatia, Mahrez, PEA, etc.
     
  11. Popovio

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    Totally forgot about Sarr. If Zouma gets back into form, France's CB depth will be more insane than it already is.
     
  12. Owsley

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    Seems like it's been a good while since there was young Dutch talent to get excited about.
     
  13. ChileanNole

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    Yeah those lists were not mean to be comprehensive. I'll revise them, and feel free to add any more for other countries. Belgium does have some ridiculous talent on paper.
     
  14. ChileanNole

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    or Italian
     
  15. Owsley

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    They've at least got Donnarumma and Bernardeschi, and Veratti is still young. But yeah, nothing compared to some of the other footballing powers.
     
  16. Popovio

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    Locatelli and Donarumma.
     
  17. Owsley

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    Forgot about Locatelli. Wonder if Milan will keep him and Gigi long term?
     
  18. ChileanNole

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    Meant it more as in the amount they use to produce compared to now. No doubt that Donnarumma is a superstar in the making.
     
  19. Popovio

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    I'm just here to be contrarian. Say something else so I can shoot you down.
     
  20. Owsley

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    Portugal has a pretty impressive list too
     
  21. ChileanNole

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    I was hoping that it would trigger our resident Italians more than you
     
  22. SugarShaun

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    Only 1 guy but people were pretty excited about Memphis before he went to United
     
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  23. Gunners

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    France needs that star to emerge besides Griezmann, nice to have that many really good players but nobody has been consistent including Pogba.

    Germany needs a striker
     
  24. zeberdee

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    Werner could be the striker Germany has been searching for.
     
  25. Ace Boogie

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    England

    Dele Alli
     
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  26. RavenNole

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    France will have attackers and center mids on the bench that almost every other country would build their entire team around
     
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    Italy doesn't often have a bunch of young wonderkids because of the way Serie A typically works. In the late 90s, they just happened to have Buffon, Totti, Nesta, Cannavaro, Del Piero (faggit), etc. all appear out of nowhere.

    Italy only winning one WC with that crop, especially considering the fact that it included a world class defense is the greatest waste of talent ever.

    But as they say, no Pirlo, no party. Ancelotti figured out how to use him too late to rescue that generation.
     
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  28. The Banks

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    And Germany will have worldclass defenders on their bench
     
  29. Gunners

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    Germany has 2 fullbacks they can rely upon and Howedes is their 3rd CB, wouldn't call that a major strength at this point.

    Getting a lot stronger on the wing though with guys like Sane, Brandt, and Gnabry(great job losing him for pretty much nothing, Wenger)
     
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  30. triceratops

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    USA with Pulisic, Pulisic, Pulisic got to be near the top.
     
  31. Ace Boogie

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    Top tier publication The Daily Mail just released their list of the top 50 talents under the age of 23 across Europe, felt it was relevant to this thread.
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...Top-50-players-23-Europe-10-1.html?mrn_rm=rta
    http://www.football.london/tottenham-hotspur-fc/players/dele-alli-finishes-above-arsenal-12802762

    50 - Franck Kessie - Atalanta, 20, Midfielder
    49 - Levin Oztunali - Mainz, 21, Midfielder
    48 - Niklas Sule - Hoffenheim, 21, Defender
    47 - Alexander Isak - Borussia Dortmund, 17, Forward
    46 - Sandro Ramirez - Malaga, 21, Forward
    45 - Morgan Sanson - Marseille, 22, Midfielder
    44 - Jose Luis Gaya - Valencia, 21, Defender
    43 - Giovanni Simeone - Genoa, 21, Forward
    42 - Victor Lindelof - Benfica, 22, Defender
    41 - James Ward-Prowse - Southampton, 22, Midfielder
    40 - Jose Gimenez - Atletico Madrid, 22, Defender
    39 - Eric Bailly - Manchester United, 22, Defender
    38 - Maxime Lopez - Marseille, 19, Midfielder
    37 - Alex Grimaldo - Benfica, 21, Defender
    36 - Ruben Neves - Porto, 20, Midfielder
    35 - Kasper Dolberg - Ajax, 19, Forward
    34 - Piotr Zielinski - Napoli, 22, Midfielder
    33 - Naby Keita - RB Leipzig, 22, Midfielder
    32 - Joshua Kimmich - Bayern Munich, 22, Defender/Midfielder
    31 - Marcus Rashford - Manchester United, 19, Forward
    30 - Marquinhos - Paris Saint-Germain, 22, Defender
    29 - Ryan Sessegnon - Fulham, 16, Defender
    28 - Alex Iwobi - Arsenal, 20, Forward
    27 - Andreas Christensen - Borussia Monchengladbach, 20, Defender
    26 - Serge Gnabry - Werder Bremen, 21, Forward
    25 - Anthony Martial - Manchester United, 21, Forward
    24 - John Stones - Manchester City, 22, Defender
    23 - Saul Niguez - Atletico Madrid, 22, Midfielder
    22 - Timo Werner - RB Leipzig, 21, Forward
    21 - Mahmoud Dahoud - Borussia Monchengladbach, 21, Midfielder
    20 - Adrien Rabiot - Paris Saint-Germain, 21, Midfielder
    19 - Wylan Cyprien - Nice, 22, Midfielder
    18 - Mateo Kovacic - Real Madrid, 22, Midfielder
    17 - Julian Weigl - Borussia Dortmund, 21, Midfielder
    16 - Christian Pulisic - Borussia Dortmund, 18, Midfielder/Forward
    15 - Bernardo Silva - Monaco, 22, Midfielder/Forward
    14 - Tiemoue Bakayoko - Monaco, 22, Midfielder
    13 - Thomas Lemar - Monaco, 21, Midfielder
    12 - Julian Brandt - Bayer Leverkusen, 20, Midfielder/Forward
    11 - Moussa Dembele - Celtic, 20, Forward
    10 - Hector Bellerin - Arsenal, 22, Defender
    9 - Renato Sanches - Bayern Munich, 19, Midfielder
    8 - Ousmane Dembele - Borussia Dortmund, 19, Forward
    7 - Raheem Sterling - Manchester City, 22, Forward
    6 - Gabriel Jesus - Manchester City, 19, Forward
    5 - Youri Tielemans - Anderlecht, 19, Midfielder
    4 - Kylian Mbappe - Monaco, 18, Forward
    3 - Leroy Sane - Manchester City, 21, Forward
    2 - Gianluigi Donnarumma - AC Milan, 18, Goalkeeper
    1 - Dele Alli - Tottenham, 20, Midfielder
     
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  32. The Banks

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    Really bad
     
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  33. Gunners

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    England would probably burn down if a 19 year old did what Jesus has done for Brazil so far

    Huge fan of Bernardo Silva too
     
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  35. Ace Boogie

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    Both Pulisic and Dele Alli are too low, Bellerin too high.
     
  36. Gaknight

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    LMAO at all the EPL dudes above Dembele on that list.
     
  37. Ned Yocho

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    Yea there's way too much English bias on that list. O Dembele is at worst #3 imo
     
  38. Pasta88

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    Bellerin way too high.
     
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  39. SugarShaun

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    I'd definitely swap Sterling for Dembele straight up.

    I'd have to think about Sane and Jesus
     
  40. Gaknight

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    I don't know enough about Jesus yet to compare the 2, but I don't believe you when it comes to Sane.
     
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  41. SugarShaun

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    :idk:
    I'm not sure what's not to believe for saying I'd have to think about. Sane has been awesome lately and been our most dangerous player. Doesn't mean he's better than Dembele, not sure what's not to believe.

    Jesus plays a completely different position so that's not really apples to apples comparison
     
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  45. Pasta88

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    J/k I kept reading and confirmed the article/list is trash.

    - "Marcos" Asensio
    - Dembele criminally low
    - Comparing Dele Alli to Russell Westbrook
     
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    hahahahahahaha
     
  48. Gaknight

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    I like that Dembele had a disappointing season and fell to 17th while Coman rode the bench and is in 6th. Even as an American homer Pulisic above Dembele is just criminal. How does anyone justify that when they are on the same team?
     
  49. ChileanNole

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    I linked it before reading the it, such a bad list :facepalm: