Well one of my wife’s friends just tested positive this afternoon. Wife was around her 11 days ago. She shouldn’t have been shedding the virus around that time correct? pperc
They had a person die from covid in their office a week or 2 ago and another coworker of hers kid tested positive so I’m sure that whole office is fucked from that as they don’t wear masks.
I mean, your name isn’t helping any matters infected donkey . But for real, best of luck. Hope you all dodge it.
We just had our first confirmed person at work at the end of last week so we’ve dodged it for a while in a hot zone part of Arkansas.
Right, but you said : If you have a known exposure, assume you are positive and isolate until your test comes back negative. That's contradicts the CDC guidelines. If you have a known exposure you are supposed to isolate for 2 weeks, regardless of a neg test, for the reasons you listed. I agree it's a heavy burden. But the alternative is heavier, right? So are you recommending people isolate until they get a neg test, or for 2 weeks regardless?? This is why there is so much confusion, even 8 months into this, and good people who are trying to follow rules and guidelines that feel lost and like they are being told 2 (or more) different things.
I have met people that (rightly?) feel they can’t isolate after a positive test. I am not unsympathetic to those people. We’ve failed as a society because we haven’t made it possible for everyone to quarantine as needed. We need to pay people to stay home. Until then, we aren’t doing what needs to be done. CDC recommendations don’t mean anything if they’re impossible to follow.
This is true. We can add another bullet point to a long list of bulletin points describing how our society has failed to manage this pandemic.
we should still have a unified voice on ideal recommendations. We shouldn't have doctors directly contradicting the CDC guidelines, even if they are "impossible" to follow. Of course there are people who can't meet those guidelines. But there are people who can. Why would you give those people bad medical advice that will increase risk and exposure? If they can isolate for 2 weeks after a known exposure, even after a neg test, then do it. If you can't isolate for 2 weeks, then the next best thing is to isolate until you get a neg test. As a last resort, if you cannot isolate, take as many precautions as you can, and limit your activity if you test positive.
Because all exposures aren’t the same, so the responses to them probably shouldn’t be the same? Until we’re willing to do a Chinese style response to this virus, we are stuck dealing with trying to help individuals navigate this mess. Individual consultation with a medical professional that can help assess your risk is the best we have right now.
ah, sorry, so when you said isolate until you get a negative test that was specific instruction for a particular exposure. I didn't understand that, my bad.
https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2020/10/16/the-solidarity-data Re: Remdevisir effectiveness - Lines up with what my (pulmonologist) friend's experience at Brigham. No real difference in outcomes with folks who got / didn't get remdevisir
2300 new cases in MN today, up from an average of about 1300/day over the past 2 weeks. This is gonna get fuckin bad
Can we just all quarantine from Thanksgiving to Christmas to eradicate the virus and then have the biggest New Years bash ever?
I mentioned in the other thread but was curious if any of you knew. What’s this new experimental antibiotic they are giving to Covid patients who develop pneumonia.
There isn’t an experimental antibiotic like you are referring to, so either you have bad info or are relaying something you heard incorrectly
Got it! Well it’s what we have for now that’s approved. If she enrolls in a clinical trial the regeneron antibody cocktail is probably where I’d want to go. Just imo ymmv
I dunno, a lot of people trust RCI's articles at scitech daily. It's scitech weekly that you have to be leery of.
CDC expands the close contact definition, and it is significant. Old: Within 6 ft of a Covid infected person for 15 consecutive minutes. New: within 6 ft of a Covid infected person for 15 minutes over the course of 24 hours. the WP link below is not behind a paywall. https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/10/21/coronavirus-close-contact-cdc/
Damn my cousin is an ICU nurse in Salt Lake and said its a mess. Mask wearing totally out the door with the Mormon community.
The urban Mormons, other than Provo/Utah County are fairly good about it. But in rural Utah it’s terrible.
New restrictions here today, highest "Level" of restriction of 5. The public health lot have a number of the media here with even their own modelling showing that there is a significant amount of time until hospitals would be in trouble here. They're going for this "circuit breaker" except not doing it properly The circuit breaker is supposed to be 2 weeks of hard lockdown that won't impact this "wave" but will help in the next 6 months to year (this is a modeller's experiment as well). https://unherd.com/2020/10/the-case-for-a-circuit-breaker/ Instead we have 6 weeks of closed restaurants, pubs , gyms and all but non essential retail whilst keeping construction and schools open to try and get R to 0.5. Also stay within 3 miles of home unless going to work, school, shopping and loads of other exemptions made up on the hoof. Closing schools will be the last resort but there is suggestions they might go for another 1 week break on top of the normal 1 week Halloween break here as a fudge. Our public health lot are not being very transparent so we don't know the modelling but in the UK they have estimated schools have a 0.5 impact and they have closed them in Northern Ireland. Seems very unlikely to me with older kids of 15+ still going to school and hanging out both to and from school that we have a hope of getting R down to that level. Many people are very fatigued from this so they have put fines in place. Interesting to see how the 6 weeks go. It looks as though case rate acceleration already stalled a couple of weeks ago with positivity rates and cases levelling off somewhat in advance of this.
Can someone science explain this to me? This is basically just saying that you can catch it from a 30 second interaction with someone? Why the cumulative 15 minutes over 24 hours thing then? Probability modeling?
Been case reports of people catching it without the classic 15 minutes within 6 feet, instead multiple micro exposures.
Back to normal. Wife and I are tired, that’s it. Oldest was last to get it and is back to school tomorrow. going to Disney world now that we have that sweet sweet immunity.
I was tired / worn down for a good month or two after my case. Never terrible, never got sick, but just worn down and tired for a lot longer than I expected.
Yeah, that's how I feel. I've been a lot sicker before, but I can totally see how people with suppressed immune systems get dump trucked by this. Nights were always worse than days, and the whole "some days are great, other days are shit" up and down was definitely true for me.
Interesting podcast with economic and epidemiologic viewpoints of a potential second lockdown: https://overcast.fm/+LQuuNwo14
I haven’t listen but will. Is this talking about the circuit breaker? https://unherd.com/2020/10/the-case-for-a-circuit-breaker/ I think this guy is closest to the truth of the modellers but I still see issues. a) I don’t believe that western governments, bar maybe Germany and the Nordics, have the ability to properly trace. b) I do not think a lot of western governments or societies are mature enough on this. We failed to explain risk and trade offs properly with this. The public remain petrified of this virus Interesting debate here last night on the two extreme strategies (don’t mind the sensationalist title)
Actually sorry, the social media set who are driving policy. They were out doing just as much nonsense in mainland Europe over the summer as anywhere else.