COVID-19 info thread

Discussion in 'The Mainboard' started by TrustyPatches, Mar 15, 2020.

  1. xec

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    Yep. The dragon dances are fascinating, but you have to be lucky to happen upon one of them. At the Strip properties you could have been exposed if you stayed at a gaming table for a good while. I doubt you were exposed walking down the Strip.
     
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  2. Imurhuckleberry

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    Would it make sense then to let people who already have the antibodies Move away from isolation? Could have that group of people work to try and keep as much moving as possible while the rest weight their turn on the flattened curve. Probably dreaming here as I'm 17 days from first symptoms, and never was able to get test here because Oklahoma.
     
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  3. xec

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    As long as they aren’t shedding.
     
  4. Carl Brutananadilewski

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    stay home now, you got it bro
     
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  5. Hoss Bonaventure

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  6. pperc15

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    Yes that might make sense. We don’t know for sure they would be protected but it’s likely. Some small chance the second time could be worse than the first. That’s true of some viral infections.
     
  7. pperc15

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  8. Imurhuckleberry

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    Would they be worse but because it would need to be a powerful infection to overcome the existing antibodies or is it some other mechanism?
     
  9. pperc15

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    Other mechanism. There is a phenomenon where viruses of a slightly different strain can hijack the antibodies against the first to more efficiently enter your cells. Dengue does this for example. It’s not common but not ruled out until we know. Would be surprise for coronavirus
     
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  10. Carl Brutananadilewski

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    oops quoted wrong post, was referring to cardiac tissue
     
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  11. Imurhuckleberry

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    Would this be similar to chicken pox/shingles as well?
     
  12. pperc15

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    Thanks. Pretty low
     
  13. pperc15

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    No. That virus is in the herpes family. It lays dormant in your dorsal root ganglion and reactivates late in life when your immunity wanes. It’s worse because it’s in your nerve endings and old people immune system isn’t great
     
  14. Carl Brutananadilewski

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    And looking at that website, it’s actually rna that’s expressed, not the protein, but from other things I have read it is expressed at least some, and up regulation of its expression on cardiac tissue is suspected in cv patients on ace inhibitors, but maybe that’s hypothesis is out of date.

    https://www.sciencenews.org/article...why-some-heart-patients-especially-vulnerable
     
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  15. RonBurgundy

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    If your case of covid is anything close to serious you won't be able to walk around the block.

    If it's mild it won't matter.
     
  16. pperc15

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    I think that’s still legit. Not recommending folks stop their ace/arbs yet though due to risk/benefit
     
  17. The Banks

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    God damn, NY, this is with competent leadership.
     
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  18. The Banks

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    Top 20 tweet of all time.
     
  19. billdozer

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    Prisma Health says it's developed a way to make 1 ventilator work for 4 coronavirus patients
    Prisma Health said Wednesday that it has developed a device that will allow one ventilator to be used on four patients suffering from the coronavirus.

    Ventilators are an important part of treating people suffering with the respiratory infection. And a shortage of ventilators has been a concern of health leaders dealing with the virus.

    Officials said that the device, called the VESper, or ventilation expansion splitter, has been approved by the FDA for emergency use authorization.

    They said they will share the development with the world, including Italy which has suffered so much, in an effort to help patients.

    She said she reached out to FDA on Friday night at 10 p.m. and by Monday at noon they’d gotten emergency use authorization.

    “Drawing on the strength of Prisma Health academic partnerships with USC and Clemson, the physicians and engineers and others came together to make this happen,” Jenkins said. “It will impact patients all over the country.”

    Dr. Peter Tilkemeier, chair of the Department of Medicine at Prisma Health-Upstate, said that Prisma currently has enough ventilators for its patients, but that’s not the case in many parts of the country.

    “This is good news during these times of significant illness and stress,” he said. “As we know, we have had a rapid increase in patients who require ventilators. And there can be an acute shortage of equipment to meet patient needs.”

    The device is produced with material already in use for medical devices and at minimal cost, according to officials, who plan to share it with national medical teams.

    It works by attaching to the ventilator and splitting out to patients. It can adjust the flow of oxygen and optimizes the flow, Tilkemeier said.

    Prisma Health experts are working with national teams who have limited ventilatory capacity and can use the prototype in the future, he said.

    “We will be working with teams to monitor clinical outcomes to determine if the device performs as designed,” he said. “This can be lifesaving when the number of critically ill patients is greater than number of ventilators,” he said.


    The device will be used only when no comparable or satisfactory means are available, he said.

    “This will allow you to share a ventilator,” Jenkins said. “The alternative is almost a certain death for that patient.”
     
  20. Jimmy Mac

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    I’m going the heed the advice of you all and sit around and hone my everyone’s golf skills. Thanks a lot for helping out myself and the board through all this, you guy have been great!!!!
     
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  21. Redav

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    ugggh
     
  22. Fargin' Icehole

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    I really think we're underutilizing masks. True that N95s are required to prevent the virus from penetrating but surgical masks do prevent aersols to a degree which is the vehicle for the virus. Lesser masks aren't going to prevent the spread but I do think it would lessen it. To what degree I have no idea but I do believe it's more than the negatives they talk about with the masks like touching your own face. Combined with proper hygiene they would help more than hurt IMO.
     
  23. pperc15

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    many other countries are using masks broadly. we aren't. and were told not to by our government. for.... reasons. (like covering their own asses because we don't have enough)
     
  24. poor paul

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    I haven't been out of my house in approximately 13 days, other than to run the dogs to the vet once last week. I'm going to have to soon for something, explain to me why I shouldn't wear the reusable respirator face mask that I own (typically used in construction, food service/production, industrial industries) other than it will make me look like Bane.
     
  25. pperc15

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    There is absolutely zero reason not to wear it.
     
  26. AUShyGuy

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    I know the masks and respirator cartridges come with expiration dates but was curious what opinions were on usage time for cartridges and what a “spent” cartridge might do protection wise.

    3M suggests 6 months after opening or noticing odors.
     
  27. WillieHuff

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    You have to talk like bane
     
  28. pperc15

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    no clue
     
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  29. Room 15

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    Well geeze thanks for nothing
     
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  30. Henry Blake

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  31. RavenNole

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    At the state level yes. At the city level no. De Blasio is a fucking idiot.
     
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  32. Killy Me Please

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  33. Bricktop the white

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    Looking like bane rules
     
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  35. orangebl00d

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  36. pperc15

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  37. Imurhuckleberry

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  38. pperc15

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    hilarious
     
  39. Imurhuckleberry

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    I'm sorry man. Let me know if you need any geology help though.
     
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  40. pperc15

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    which healing crystal works best on covid-19?
     
  41. Room 15

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    I'm gonna need more info. Is Mercury currently in retrograde?
     
  42. Arliden

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    Pretty sure when I checked that site a few days ago it just got data from the COVID tracking project, looks like now they've changed obscured their data sourcing a little. May be trying it out on their own.

    But for all the New York stuff they get it from here: https://coronavirus.health.ny.gov/county-county-breakdown-positive-cases

    And that hasnt been updated since yesterday.
     
  43. pperc15

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    Thanks. I think they try to pull county level data.
     
  44. Henry Blake

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    Anyone have any tutorials on dead simple fabric masks with the ability to insert a filter? I like that idea. I saw that Cambridge study online yesterday. A dish towel seemed to be pretty effective. Any suggestions on simple ways to implement that?
     
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  45. Joystick Izzy

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  46. Arliden

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    Positive cause he thinks UK's lockdown measures will be effective enough to keep the cases from overwhelming the hospital system, we will see if hes right in 2-3 weeks. Interestingly he notes that from the data he has seen in Europe he bumped up his transmission rate to just above 3 from 2.5.

    I'd like to read these "1/2 the population has it" theories, the Oxford one in that article is linked to a FT paywall.
     
  47. AUShyGuy

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    Two things stand out to me reading that, 1) assuming they’re getting good isolation/distancing 2) they’re measuring ICU capacity at national level not local. I’d think that would require an impressive effort to transfer patients.
     
  48. Imurhuckleberry

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    They all have, within measurement error, the same efficacy.
     
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