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  1. Penguin The Duck

    Penguin The Duck Well-Known Member / #NFT Influencer
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    If you're that batshit at least stake them for crypto IMO
     
  2. Lyrtch

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    i think this is fair and fine, we'd quibble over how big any of them would be as segments

    i just find the case behind #2 the weakest of the 3 and the most likely end case is just pushing fintech to modernize and adapt, which is great but not changing the underlying platforms underlying how basically the entire economy works
     
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  3. Name P. Redacted

    Name P. Redacted I have no money and I'm also gay
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    Idk man I skim your posts
     
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  4. dblplay1212

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    I think you confused me for someone else. I spend money on all kinds of shit that others would consider dumb so if you want to collect digital cats, go for it.
     
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  5. Penguin The Duck

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    Yea my belief behind web 3 + NFTs has nothing to do with this. My nerd talk is with cats.
     
  6. DollarBillHokie

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    It will be the best day of your life. It will be so easy to sell photos of your eFeet on only fans.
     
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  7. DollarBillHokie

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  8. Chumbolone

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    Right here, moon face.

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  9. devine

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    This is all very easy to understand and this video sums it up well

     
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  10. Penguin The Duck

    Penguin The Duck Well-Known Member / #NFT Influencer
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    she sounds like dbl posts it’s a cute attempt
     
  11. Chumbolone

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    Blockchain fixes this.
     
  12. GoodForAnother

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    I put my teeth on the blockchain so no one can steal them
     
  13. Chumbolone

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    I did the same thing with my balls, brother.
     
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  14. dblplay1212

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    After all the back and forth today, buying this tonight and laughed at this.

    Screenshot_20220107-215112_Chrome.jpg
     
  15. BrickTamland

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    Ready Player One
     
  16. GoodForAnother

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    I’ve got some signed stuff from Sproles, Jordy, Okoyoe, Jamaal Charles, and Snyder, all with certificates of authenticity. Is that an nft
     
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  17. Lyrtch

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    yes?
     
  18. BrickTamland

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    That’s all I’ve got. It’s what comes to mind when I hear discussion about the metaverse and living our lives via an avatar.

    Or alternatively we can just upload our consciousnesses into cyborg bodies one day in the near future. That would be neat.
     
  19. Lyrtch

    Lyrtch My second favorite meat is hamburger
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    oh yeah i got that part, if a dystopian future movie is the sales pitch might rethink that pitch but i've heard it from aggro crypto folks
     
  20. Montclaire de Haviland

    Montclaire de Haviland Crass with a friend, trying to be funny

    Think you might not be far off. It's potentially a hedged bet that the internet will become a finite commodity and this is the real estate.
     
  21. letan

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    I think you could legit sell this to someone as an nft for real money

    don’t worry I’ve got just the metaverse nft for you. don’t understand this at all but your metaverse guy will be nude

     
  22. Montclaire de Haviland

    Montclaire de Haviland Crass with a friend, trying to be funny

    What I still don't understand is how penguin refuses to answer why I shouldn't fire up MSpaint and sell doodles for mazdas
     
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  23. Lip

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    That’s RalfBully yearly allowance
     
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  24. PAHokie

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    I’ve read the better part of the two days shit show and I still have zero clue what the fuck any of this means. There has been no appreciable explanation of it.

    The best I can come up with is that it’s more about blockchain, which I have no clue what it is, than the current actual NFTs, which I understand what a token is, but don’t understand the current things tied to them.
     
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  25. Name P. Redacted

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    Apologies if this has been asked but Chumbolone have you made the water bottle pic a nft yet
     
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  26. kennypowers

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    So far the most compelling argument is that billionaire tech bros are investing in it.

    The technology is awesome. It just solves a problem that doesn’t exist. You guys got in at the ground level and made a shit ton of money and that is genuinely awesome. But it’s not feasible by any means.

    It’s like if I have an anthill in my lawn. And Bezos says yeah we can totally destroy anthills, we’ll launch some satellites into space with super precise lasers that can destroy anthills all over the world with millimeter precision. Or you could just go down to Home Depot and buy some Ortho. But yeah duh of course Bezos is going to want to push the satellite laser thing because it’s in his interest.

    Literally no one is complaining about the way that tickets are distributed. There are more free platforms than ever to publish music. Where is the problem that this is solving?

    There are enormous hurdles to making the blockchain usable on a large scale. Those could be overcome I’m with some sort of viable use case, but it doesn’t exist.
     
  27. ANTWONE

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    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ho...ion-ticketmaster-class-action-1235070131/amp/

    ahh yes everyone loves Ticketmaster/Live Nation

    Artists are also particularly fond of the fractions of a penny they make every time you stream their music or labels controlling their catalog of music
     
  28. kennypowers

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    Wow, a technology so advanced that it can defeat Ticketmaster, record labels, and music streaming services altogether!

    How?
     
  29. ohhaithur

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    This is the dumbest fucking comment in a thread of dumb comments. Everyone hates how tickets are distributed/sold.

    In the last five years the following have happened to me (I go to a lot of events):
    • I sold tickets to an event that got rescheduled multiple times over years. I paid for my tickets but StubHub won't pay me until the event
    • I have bought tickets to an event with a will-call window that the purchaser couldn't make it
    • I have had to meet someone in a public place to trade money for a ticket transfer because nobody would do their side first
    • I have bought tickets on resale and was sent tickets to the wrong event
    • I have bought tickets on resale that never came through
    • I went to an event with tickets whose PDF was sold multiple times
    Sure six-figure drawings are insane but if you can't see the use case for an obvious verifiable track record on tickets you're being willfully ignorant. All of these issues above would be solved in a heartbeat with tickets as an NFT
     
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  30. kennypowers

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    I’ve already said multiple times I can see the use case, it’s just insane overkill. I was under apparently the false impression that you were one of those on TMB that could at least just collect your profits from this fad without diving head first into NFT will save everything doctrine.

    In all of your bullet points, you are talking about selling or buying tickets aftermarket. There are several reputable sites that do this and offer protection versus the things you are mentioning, so I assume you are talking about smaller venues or lesser attended events. So why the fuck would event spaces, or promoters for that matter, give an ounce of a shit about you getting ripped off in the aftermarket? You are asking for a club or event space to do a MASSIVE overhaul in their ticket infrastructure for you to not “meet someone in a public place to trade money for a ticket transfer because nobody would do their side first”

    It’s really easy to convince yourself this is the future when you’ve made a bunch of money on it. I am sincerely, genuinely happy for y’all. I’ve made a bunch of money on crypto and I have no clue what I’m doing there, and thankfully done so without thinking particular coins are going to transform the world. But you all don’t seem to understand that cool technology does not equal feasibility.
     
  31. kennypowers

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    I mean honestly, what is your sales pitch to a venue?

    “Everyone hates buying tickets” (not true but let’s say it is)

    Ok well if I change to this incredibly complicated system that few people understand, at a direct cost to my venue, can I sell more tickets?

    “No but your scalpers won’t have to resell on Craigslist”
     
  32. ohhaithur

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    I obviously don't believe that, you're just being dense. I took my profits, I'm happy with the profits. The technology is cool. Most art (irl and digital) is overvalued. There are some reasonable uses for the technology. You're the one making everything black and white here.

    The "protection" is getting to wait on hold outside the venue while waiting for a support agent to maybe find you a ticket. Jesus Christ are you new?

    Oh and all the things I named were giant events. Two of them had tickets going for thousands of dollars. My bullet points are music festivals. Stanley Cup Finals. World Series. Arena tours.

    I don't think it's "the future" sheesh, I named one thing it can do better
     
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  33. ohhaithur

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    Ok you're going to keep digging.

    "Hey, you know how we love data and revenue streams? If we put the tickets on the blockchain we can cut out Stubhub entirely, have data on every ticket, cut out ticket fraud, save on printed ticket costs/will call staffing, and set a royalty ourselves on every transfer so we can profit on every single aftermarket transaction. Oh and we don't have to deal with Amex anymore"
     
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  34. ohhaithur

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    God bless poor Harrison Beck catching up on this thread rn. He'll be left with only regret
     
  35. Harrison Beck

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    23 fucking pages and I’m not going to know who has a bigger dick am I?
     
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  36. kennypowers

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    I don’t think there’s much point to continuing, I just don’t see it. And honestly who cares, I could be wrong and you will all be rich. Tonight alone I’ve been replied to saying that NFT’s will be a solution to streaming music services, stubhub, Ticketmaster, and American Express. I hope you can see why the 99% of us in the outside just gaze with wide eyes.

    Your use case above sounds awesome of course, because NFT technology is really fucking awesome. It again ignores reality of…is ticket resales even a problem for venues? Is it enough of a problem that they need the headache of spending probably millions to replace their current ticket infrastructure. They will now have to deal with blockchain and all the fun that comes with ETH and gas fees and network bandwidth. The accounting will be bonkers. And you have to re-educate an entire user base of how tickets work. And Amex will of course still be required for concessions and stores.

    All to reclaim aftermarket sales. It would accomplish it, for sure. I just don’t see it as being feasible.
     
  37. Whammy

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    This is still going? Lerd

    When judging competition?
     
  38. TC

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    Who won the bet?
     
  39. $P1

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    So far neither user has sent me any money to make a ruling. So I'm just assuming they're both broke and worth exactly $0.
     
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  40. dblplay1212

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    I don't think nft tickets magically fix all of those issues except the last one. Nft isn't going to mean an end to the ticket middle-man or that the middle-man will get better customer service.

    MLB's current digital ticket system is fantastic. You have an online ticket locker and you can transfer in and out. A fellow tmb user had field of dreams tickets and just transferred them to my email. Worked perfect. But tickets on the marketplace and they instantly show up in your locker. Physical tickets just need to go away.
     
  41. dblplay1212

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    Who is "we"? It's just another middle-man taking their cut.

    The venue doesn't deal with Amex btw. Tickemaster and stubhub do.

    I think your gripe is the middle-man companies suck and I don't disagree. But there's always going to be a middle-man. Whether the middle-man is selling paper tickets, digital tickets, or nft's, there's always going to be a middle-man. A venue isn't going to sell 100k tickets on their own.

    Agree on cutting out printed tickets. That solves the majority of the fraud part right there too. The one advantage I do see is being able to make royalties off each aftermarket transaction.
     
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  42. wes tegg

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    I don’t think it could, but if it could cut out ticket buying bots I’d consider it the most personally impactful technological advance thus far in my lifetime. Only slightly exaggerating.
     
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  43. dblplay1212

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    Same but with shoes. Honestly it can be done now but it requires the seller to put in more work and they don't so we get screwed. Like there's one boutique, A Ma Maniere, that always adds extra layers to their release, and therefore pairs make it to people buying to wear at a much higher clip. They'll make a new domain that you have to get to from an email they send, then thr shoes will ve called something completely different in the description so that the bot keywords won't work. They have to pay shopify a little more but it can be done. Most just throw them online and let bots eat.
     
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  44. bro

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    Great news guys
     
  45. dblplay1212

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    That's not new. You could bet on the OJ trial. Hell one of the books had a line on his parole hearing recently. This is another rebrand of something that already exists but it says nft so people think it's innovative.
     
  46. dblplay1212

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    Ryval also promises “50%+ Annual Returns,” though Roche admitted the figure “may be a little high” when Motherboard asked him about it.

    :laugh:
     
  47. bro

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    The oj trial was the biggest event of the decade. So yes, this is different.
     
  48. dblplay1212

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    After reading it, it's not just betting on an outcome. It's a different concept, basically crowd source funding a lawsuit with investors getting a split of the verdict. New dumb concept, not nft dependent.
     
  49. dblplay1212

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    It's kickstarter/gofundme for lawsuits.
     
  50. dblplay1212

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    I'll be disappointed if an online betting site doesn't rebrand betting slips as nft's.

    Get your KC -7 token now!
     
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