Cutting the Cable

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  1. afb

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    One increasing fear among suits at ESPN: Cord Cutters. You may or may not know anybody who has cut the cord on TV, but millennials are eschewing expensive cable TV bills and streaming everything online.

    Media Life Magazine recently wrote about Cord Cutting, and, citing Digitalsmiths, claimed more and more people are ditching their TVs.

    It was unclear how many people Digitalsmiths polled to get their numbers, but privately, this phenomenon has ESPN freaked out. Live sports TV rights are only escalating, but on the other side, ESPN is losing cable subscriptions. It’s only a drip now, but in a decade, it could be significant.

    Look at this chart from the Wall Street Journal in 2014 showing how much ESPN brings in per subscription:

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    http://thebiglead.com/2015/07/01/es...dial-down-his-commentary-looks-like-hes-gone/
     
  2. Tobias

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    that login I gave you will work for the nbc sports app/site

    can either stream to your TV through a computer or tablet
     
  3. Clown Baby

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    Shame on anyone paying for Fox Sports 1
     
  4. Open Carry

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    Finally got the Roku working after about two hours. I was very close to returning it. I ended up having to plug it into my router via ethernet. Then I had to use my phone with the Roku app to connect, which after every time I made a selection would disconnect. Finally after settting the Roku to connect via ethernet and not wifi was the remote able to connect. What a huge pain in the ass.
     
  5. Jorts

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    You are amazing!!! :lovelove:
     
  6. Magneto

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    My Inlaws had me set up their Directv.com account. Nice to now have ESPN and FXNow.
     
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  7. Jorts

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    Mine was extremely easy to set up. I had issues with Hulu Plus buffering, but emailed customer service & was able to resolve it fairly easily.
     
  8. Tobias

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    no problem man

    you're the only one that took me up on that offer too
     
  9. Ray McKigney

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    Got my roku and digital antenna today. On Friday, I will live in a house without cable television for the first time in 3 decades.
     
  10. Jorts

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    I get all local channels upstairs with the HD antenna, but not in my bedroom. I'm gonna have to get an amplified version to get ABC in my bedroom
     
  11. two

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    Well I was looking forward to cutting the cord, but Century Link is the only provider I can get in my apartment and only up to 12mb. The 12 is actually more like 3 so streaming everything might not be the best idea.
     
  12. Frank Martin

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    may I?

    I don't have the internet yet but I'm willing to order it with this login
     
  13. captbunch

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    really dumb question...so my apologies in advance.

    do you have to have all of these things (HD antenna, apple tv, sling, etc) on every TV?
     
  14. Jorts

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    Antenna, Apple TV/Roku/Chromecast/Fire TV - yes

    Sling - no
     
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  15. Daniel Ocean

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    Pretty much. I think (don't know about sling) but I think you need a machine that can access your sling account on every tv. It's cutting the cord but you still need a "box" that will be able to access your content.
     
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  16. Redav

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    I hooked my HD antenna up in the attic and used the existing cable lines to run the signal to 3 TVs. The rest I think you do. You can get the firestick (or a similar stick) for sling and it moves pretty easily.
     
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  17. Rick

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    Do you have to make an account to use primewire? Youtubeonfire went down a while back and I've been looking for something similar since.
     
  18. Bert Handsome

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    When this gains more traction what is this going to do to the conferences's business model? (collecting subscriber fees from cable subscribers for their network regardless of viewership)
     
  19. I'll Give You Asthma

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    Nope no account, and you don't need to download any type of video player or anything. Unfortunately the site makes it so you have to get through a few popups before watching something, but adblockplus usually works pretty well.
     
  20. Redav

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  21. two

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    My HD antenna came in the mail and I had it all hooked up but was only picking up 5 channels and all of them were choppy... Looked in the box again and realized I forgot to plug in the amplifier :facepalm: Now I have 26 channels that work perfectly
     
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  22. Ray McKigney

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    Set the Roku up. Commandeered my old mans Cable account so now I have ESPN HBO Showtime and whatnot.

    Digital antenna isn't picking up jackshit. Of course it's just sitting there on my furniture next to my tv. I don't particularly want to put it up on a window. I was thinking about placing it on the wall behind the tv but I don't know of that will do anything.

    But ay fuck cable.
     
  23. laxjoe

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    play around with it while the tv is on and just find out where it works best. and are you sure you got the right antenna for your house? at least when i was buying mine 4 years ago, certain antenna's worked better in certain spots

    http://lifehacker.com/how-to-choose-the-best-over-the-air-antenna-for-free-hd-1569752514
     
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  24. laxjoe

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    also, comedy central app just landed on roku 2 or 3 days ago. so thats cool. looks like you can watch full episodes the day after the air?
     
  25. dump

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    As more and more people are cutting the cord, cable networks are trying to stay relevanteither by creating standalone services (HBO Now, CBS All Access, Lifetime, Showtime) or by joining skinny online services like Dish Network’s Sling TV. But for a network like ESPN, it has to find ways to balance the lost revenue from cord cutters and increasing costs due to sports rights fees plus production.

    It’s been reported that ESPN President John Skipper has been ordered by his Disney bosses to slash costs in a big way over the next two years:

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    ESPN pres John Skipper given a mandate to cut $100M from network's budget next yr & to cut $250M in 2017 via @THR

    The Wall Street Journal reports that ESPN has lost a significant amount of homes since July 2011:

    Since July 2011, ESPN’s reach into American homes has dropped 7.2%, from more than 100 million households—roughly the size of the total U.S. pay-TV market—to 92.9 million households, according to Nielsen data.

    Viewership of SportsCenter, its marquee and high-margin sports-news show, has sagged since September, due in part to the fact that younger consumers are increasingly finding sports news at their fingertips on smartphone apps.

    Sports has been said to be the one attraction that keeps viewers with cable and satellite, but as cord cutters find other options to watch live action, ESPN finds itself at a crossroads. It knows it has to reach younger viewers who feel that paying for television does not fit with lifestyle and their wallets. But going with a standalone service like HBO or CBS will cause some complications.

    As ESPN charges over $6 per subscriber (ranging from $6.02 to $6.61) to the cable and satellite providers, starting a standalone online service could cause the network to charge twice as much as HBO and force its affiliates to push the channel to sports tiers:

    If ESPN offers its channel as a direct-to-consumer streaming service, some pay-TV operators have the contractual right to boot ESPN out of their most widely-sold channel packages and sell it a la carte, according to people familiar with the matter.

    ESPN would have to charge about $30 a month per customer in an over-the-top offering to make the same money using that model, analysts say. But those distributors would have the right to undercut ESPN in their retail pricing, the people said.

    To be sure, there are no signs ESPN wants to offer a stand-alone Web version of itself to consumers anytime soon.

    With the corporate mandate to cut costs, on-air talent whose contracts are soon expiring could find themselves undergoing tough negotiations in order to remain with ESPN. Already we have seen Bill Simmons and Keith Olbermann being shown or about to be shown the door. Others whose contracts are coming up according to the Wall Street Journal are Mike Tirico, Michelle Beadle, Adam Schefter and as we have previously chronicled, Colin Cowherd.

    In addition, the much-ballyhooed Mike & Mike move to New York City was cancelled and cost was cited as a major factor in the decision.

    With Fox Sports 1 and NBCSN making ratings gains on ESPN, the corporate suits at Disney realize that their monopoly on cable sports is over. But with Fox Sports 1 also making cutsin its news operation, the sports rights bubble may not be bursting, but it may be plateauing.

    While ESPN continues to make a profit for Disney, it’s not the cash cow that it once was. The last two decades saw amazing growth for ESPN and thanks to increased spending to gain rights to Monday Night Football, NBA, SEC, the Bowl Championship Series/College Football Playoff, NCAA Championships, Wimbledon, the U.S. Open tennis tournament and other events over the last decade plus, the Worldwide Leader saw its reach expand to 100 million homes.

    But now with the reach reduced by the aforementioned 7.2% in the last four years, ESPN knows that reduced revenues have to be met with some belt-tightening. The rights for the obtained events aren’t going down and are staying pat into well into the 2020’s. If the amount of cord cutters continues to increase over the next few years, we may find that ESPN may have to enact some desperate measures, but Disney hasn’t come to that point and perhaps the number of cord cutters will level off. However, for now ESPN and other networks which are experiencing the same drastic fall off hope that they can ride out the storm until then.​
     
  26. Jorts

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    Can't seem to use any other logins with Roku to get ESPN, HBO Go, ect... Get activation code through my phone/cpu, but cannot locate where to enter a different login & password.
     
  27. Daniel Ocean

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    If it is like the fire tv.

    1 get code from the machine you want to activate.
    2. Go hbo.com/activate
    3. Put in code there.

    That should activate the box.
     
  28. two

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    Got a loaded fire stick.. It's great other than needing to reset it all the time to get the wifi to work. Idk if it's my internet or the stick, but it gets quite annoying. Sling tv on it is so/so but that I definitely think is my internet speeds. Capped at 12mb so not much I can do.
     
  29. Jorts

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    I can set up every other channel, but cannot gain access to Watch ESPN or NBC Sports Live through the Roku. I can login through my iPhone/iPad, but the Roku isn't taking me to a login screen... it's just giving me a "contact your TV provider to gain access to the service" error. I can use my Chromecast for Watch ESPN, but not for NBC Live (which I need for EPL games)

    Perhaps the issue is because I'm trying to use someone else's login/password that also has Uverse?

    Any recommendations?
     
  30. laxjoe

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    so i just logged out and logged back in the nbc app. opened the app on roku, * options --> sign-in. gave me the passcode and i went to nbcsports.com/login on my laptop. pick roku, cable provider and enter the passcode(&), get a "success" and redirect to cable log-in, and then i'm good to go.

    (&)if i'm reading it correctly, you're getting all the way to this part, and then it's telling you you don't have access? i've used multiple log-ins for both espn and nbc sports, so i don't think that's the problem. if you're doing all the above and it's not working, i don't know what to tell you.

    edit: what do you mean by the bolded part?
     
  31. fsck~

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    So any way to get redzone without cable?
     
  32. Jorts

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    Bold part: i have uverse & the login/password is from someone else's account that is also Uverse.

    I've logged in & out, reset factory setting on Roku, removed apps on phone/roku & reinstalled.

    I'm getting "success" to the app through Roku as well, but it is limited to Video on Demand. There are no live TV options I can access. I'm getting a message that I need to contact my TV provider to gain access.

    I am not able to enter a login/password from TobiasFunke-Analrapist... only the activation code that Roku provides. I assume my actual AT&T setting are just being automatically sent, limiting my access.
     
  33. Tobias

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    maybe get an amazon fire instead? worked fine for me using that login
     
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  34. Jorts

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    The code works perfectly fine on my iPhone/iPad

    I get this through the Roku

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  35. Tobias

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    i don't have a roku so i can't help.

    it worked just fine on my amazon fire
     
  36. Jorts

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    Maybe I'll just return the Roku for that... you have the Fire Stick or Fire TV?
     
  37. Tobias

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    fire tv

    not a huge difference between the 2 though

    if you have prime, keep an eye out for deals on Wednesday bc i bet they have some on their fire products

    mine isn't working too hot right now so i am gonna get a new one this week
     
  38. Jorts

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    Figured it out.

    Turned the wifi off on my phone, so I was using Cellular, not Uverse internet to activate it

    Roku2 has been great, but for this issue... plus it's cheaper than the Fire TV
     
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  39. zachary

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    So my parents are wanting to cut cable as well but have lots of TVs and kids still, they mostly watch Netflix but what is the best route they should go? I'm using Sling and Digital Antenna but that's just for one TV so it wouldn't be the same..any advice?
     
  40. Magneto

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    How tech savvy are they?
     
  41. zachary

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  42. Daniel Ocean

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    Get an HD antenna. This will get them free over the air channels. Get some sort of media streaming device for each tv they need /want one (roku, fire tv) with that you'll get streaming service (hulu, prime video, netflix). If they are willing to down load set up a plex account and they'll be able to stream whatever they down load to each tv. HBO and showtime have stand alone services. Showtime you can add to your hulu for 8 or so a month. Depends on how much they want to spend all those subs will run about 500 a year.
     
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  43. zachary

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    Will the antenna work for every TV?
     
  44. Daniel Ocean

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    If they are like old ones they should but you might need "Rabbit ears" on each tv
     
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  45. Tobias

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    yeah thought about that cellular usage

    same thing happened when i tried to use an hbogo login on my iPad at my parents. they don't have it so i couldn't login bc it automatically read their plan. just had to do it at work over that wifi

    may need to replace my fire tv. i don't have Netflix and just use Amazon prime video so kinda gotta stick to amazon options i think
     
  46. Jorts

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    Roku has Amazon Video :twocents:
     
  47. Tobias

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    i will have to see what amazon prime black wednesday has in store then
     
  48. Ray McKigney

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    I got a 35 mile antenna. I mean, you have to stick the thing on a window. And it has to remain connected to the television, so I'm kind of hamstrung with having to tape that thing to a window that is within cable distance of the TV, correct?
     
  49. laxjoe

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    are you logged into YOUR att account when doing this? log out of att on your laptop/computer, delete cookies so you'll have to log in again, and then try? that's the only thing i can think of. if that doesn't work :idk:
     
  50. Ray McKigney

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    I was kind of meh when it came to Amazon prime streaming, but they have a pretty decent amount of good stuff available