Dan Carlin and Revolutions Podcasts

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  1. Truman

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    The second episode came out this weekend. All on Spartacus. Was a great listen.
     
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  2. War Grundle

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    Will need to check that out.
     
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  3. Can I Spliff it

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    Napoleon was the white Toussaint Louverture
    Fair warning re: Haitian rev- the shifting alliances between the rich whites, poor whites, free coloreds, slaves, French administrators...

    ...British, Spanish, royalists and republicans is going to be as complex as anything we've covered

    They were all using each other and everyone thought everyone else was their chump. They were all simultaneously right and wrong

    the lag time between France and St-D gets pretty funny. New orders leave France and then the govt that ordered them is toppled

    this happens like 7 different times​
     
  4. Truman

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    Duncan got a book deal. He's writing on the generation prior to end of the republic. THat's pretty cool for him.
     
  5. Vito Corleone

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    Haitian revolution is really fascinating and confusing. I'm sure he'll do as good of a job as any.

    It probably delayed abolition a couple decades in the US because the southern states continued to reference it as an example of what would happen if slaves were freed. The somerset case finally killed that notion
     
  6. Truman

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    New show will hopefully be released tonight (probably late,late Pacific time). Thanks for all your patience.It was a really long wait.Sorry.
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  8. Rusty Shackleford

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    I just checked tonight thinking we were due for one. I am so excited. Luckily I have been able to pick up several podcasts that update weekly and make the wait for each of these a little easier.
     
  9. Lawnole23

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    It up yet? Don't see it on the Podcast app.
     
  10. MORBO!

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    Is he still on WW1?
     
  11. Wicket

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    tomorrow, software issues
     
  12. Lawnole23

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    that one is over I believe
     
  13. Wicket

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    nope, new subject, dont know which one yet
     
  14. Eamudo229

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    Carlin said something to the effect that it's going to be a subject of the ancient world from what I can recall.
     
  15. Truman

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    It has dropped. Persian Empire.
     
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    Posting for later. Loved HH and can't wait for more.
     
  18. Taffy

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    Big fan of HH but I'm an hour in to the latest episode and it's very slow so far
     
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  19. RWisoursavior

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    Loving this new episode so far, about an hour in.

    Tough to keep all the Mesopotamian civilizations straight. Wish there was some type of visual aid for reference. Just a rundown of what he talked about when.
     
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  20. Why?Pokes

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    He spends a quarter, maybe less, of the episode talking about the ostensible subject of Cyrus the Great and the Persian Empire. In reality, the story is more about the transition in geopolitical power and narrative values regarding Mesopotamian/Anatolian civilization between the era of the Jewish Bible and that of Herodotus, using those texts as his major sources. You'll hear more about the Assyrians, Medes, Greeks, and Carlinisms/macro-theory than you will the Persians. As a comparison, it's closer to Thor's Angels than Prophets of Doom. By that I mean the former is very big picture, and the latter event specific.

    Overall not my favorite, not bad either. He could probably condense the first 45 min into 5 and not miss anything, but it picks up after that.
     
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  21. Why?Pokes

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    Assyria/Akkadia, Babylonia, and Egypt are the big Biblical-era powers. During the collapse of the bronze age, a lot of extant Mediterranean powers (Hittites, Minoans, Mycenae) are wiped out and the region fades into obscurity. At the same time, Mesopotamia keeps humming along and is gradually brought to heel by the Assyrian Empire. Babylon remains powerful enough to periodically trouble Assyrian rule and vie for regional control. Eventually, Iranian tribes rise up and overthrow both the Assyrians and Babylonians. The Medes, followed by the Persians, come to dominate the entire region in short time, and are in turn themselves conquered by the "obscure" Greeks, now on the rise, in a few generations.

    Carlin doesn't talk about Egypt, the Hittites, Minoans, or Myceanae Greek in this episode. There are a million minor tribes and kingdoms, but Carlin sticks to the Jews and Anatolian (Turkish peninsula) Greeks, and contrasts how the Jews viewed the Persian Empire as a liberator (per their experience with the old Mesopotamian despots), with how the Greeks viewed them as a conqueror (ironically, the Anatolian Greeks were themselves descended from colonies of prior Greek incursions into the region).

    Those are two horribly incomplete and inaccurate paragraphs about the subject but it gives you a rough timeline and overview of the events/themes discussed.
     
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  22. Topper Bottoms

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    I listened to it on a drive monday. Thought it was a meandering mess.
     
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  23. Lawnole23

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    I enjoyed it just because I know very little about this region/era. It was a mess because he kept jumping all over the place. He was trying to explain why people were doing what they were doing and why the Persians weren't some evil empire like 300 presented. It would have been easier to say that was what he wanted to discuss. Start with the Assyrians/Babylonians explain what they were doing then take it from there.
     
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  24. miles

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    Prophets of doom good? Need a new one today cause I'm in the car.
     
  25. Bishop

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    Yes the Prophets of Doom is a good single one.
     
  26. miles

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    Listened to half of it on a two hour car ride. Really good so far
     
  27. Hoss Bonaventure

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    What are Thor's Angels and Prophets of Doom? I've only seen the Wrath of the Khans and Blueprint ones on my podcast list
     
  28. Truman

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    Prophets of Doom is about Martin Luther and the Reformation
    Thor's Angels is about Post Roman Empire Europe and the Dark Ages
     
  29. RoyalShocker

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    Wtf is Carlin doing? Where is his next podcast grrrr
     
  30. Truman

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    Well, he just put one out, so hopefully just a month or so.
     
  31. miles

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    Think Prophets of Doom was my favorite I've heard

    so batshit crazy all around
     
  32. Topper Bottoms

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    Prophets of Doom is great for a saturday relisten
     
  33. Wicket

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    agreed, really liked those few single shows in there. Logical Insanity was really good, the Karel de Grote (Charlemagne) one was really good as well
     
  34. Truman

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    Ive gone back and re-listened to his earlier stuff. Back when they were just 45 minute musings on comparing Hitler to Alexander the Great, or how the Battle of Hastings changed the world.

    Good stuff.
     
  35. Iron Mickey

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    really enjoyed the latest episode. can't imagine how much work goes into organizing something like that.

    get a kick out of people bitching about it. ever try to write a presentation? how about one that covers massive issues? for four hours? lmbo

    "ermagerd my free podcast isn't impeccably structured"

    kill yourself
     
  36. miles

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    Had no idea he did a Charlemagne type.

    Nice. That's actually a rare piece of history I know a decent amount about. Will listen to that one next.
     
  37. MORBO!

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    It's been like an entire fucking week and part 2 isn't out yet? Fucking A, Carlin.
     
  38. Lawnole23

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    Is there anyway to listen to the older ones prior to say the Mongol ones without paying per episode?
     
  39. Vito Corleone

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    There are some websites you can stream from. I'm on my phone, but if you just search player.fm, or podtail and hardcore history you should get what you need with a little searching

    I listened to the rome and eastern front ones on it
     
  40. RWisoursavior

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    How does he make money? I can't even recall any sponsors on the podcasts. I am curious at their business model.

    I'd love to see what he looks like while recording it. The script must be enormous, I wonder how may people are next to him feeding him sources and quotes/does he just have a massive charade of papers in front of him? Are there cuts? I'd imagine there are quite a few although I never notice them, his flow is impeccable.
     
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  41. Truman

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    You think he just sits and does 4 hours straight? Of course there are cuts and many sessions.

    The longest part of then process has to be post production. You can tell they take thier time because the product is flawless. You can't tell were they cuts are
     
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  42. RWisoursavior

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    That's my point, more rhetorical question. I'd imagine they record them in a very short span though.
     
  43. Truman

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    He was a guest on another pod.

    He said he use to just walk in the studio, talk for 30-45 minutes and publish an episode. Now he said he's lucky to get out even a short segment of a current episode in that time.
     
  44. pez

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    Ads are at the end. Square space had a long ad (or him just talking about it awhile) on this one at the end.
     
  45. miles

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    He also gets a few iTunes downloads as well I'm sure
     
  46. RWisoursavior

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    I wonder how much they get for those ads though. They're at the end and the podcast comes out, what, once every 3 months or so. That's peanuts compared to any weekly or daily podcast.
     
  47. WillySaliba

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    I think about this as well because he reminds me of my favorite author. David Halberstam, highly recommend anything he's published.

    And it's not only the prep and organization, it's his ability to not be dry as fuck and to relate it all. That comes with a ton of knowledge, but just the scale of the project is mind boggling to me. I would listen to an episode just dedicated to creating an episode.
     
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  48. colonel_forbin

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    I bought all the episodes a few months ago out of the goodness of my heart.

    Where is this Charlemagne one?
     
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  49. Why?Pokes

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    Prophets of Doom is still up on his free feeds: iTunes podcast, Hardcore History website, Stitcher, etc... Thor's Angels is old enough that it's been moved to his pay library, although if you look hard enough you might find a free stream.

    Thor's Angels is about the rise of the Northern barbarian tribes at the fall of the Roman Empire, with an eye towards the dichotomy between their political aggression and Christian faith.

    Prophets of Doom is about a strange Reformation-era Anabaptist sect that took over the city of Munster under the assumption that the world was about to end. It examines the movement's leadership--these two wild, David Koresh-like figures--and the manner in which they came to exert influence over the populace and wield power.
     
  50. Why?Pokes

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    They are referring to Thor's Angels, he's one of the subjects in the episode. I wouldn't say it's "about" him per-se, but he's the most intersting personality.
     
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