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Discussion in 'Video Game and Fantasy Football Board' started by TrustyPatches, Jan 11, 2018.
im actually gonna have to buy a fucking switch
you wont regret it
Kotaku saying an announcement for other consoles coming soon
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Well, so much for having a productive year.
I can't wait to park my ass at oolacile township with my claymore and beat the brakes off a whole new generation of mother fuckers
All systems let's go
oooohhhh, if it's xbox one x enhanced it may trump the Switch for me.
I’m so excited to troll forest gankers. Maybe my favorite part of all souls games.
I'm so excited to play blight town at > 7fps
Get to rock a great scythe with a solid moveset again.
Dark Souls great scythe is so sexy
So I’ve only played DS3 and BB
What should I expect from 1 compared to 3?
I think that it will teach you to appreciate some things from DS3 more.
The level design is incredible. Outside of two areas the entire map is interconnected. No fast travel till late game. Bosses are more punishing than you'll be used to. I think the only boss that can compare to what you'll see in DS would be the nameless king. PVP is everything in DS. The core game is my favorite game maybe of all time but the time I invested into PVP is probably only rivaled by what I've put into Borderlands and Destiny.
One of the things I'm most excited for is getting to see late adopters of the franchise like yourself go back and experience this game. Beating Orn and Smough, the four kings, sif, asylum demon and what I consider the best boss fight of all time; artorias of the abyss.
Mechanically speaking, it will be an adjustment unless they've completely rebuilt it with the DS3 engine.
Mechanically, DS3 is absolutely amazing. The game tho, imo doesn't compare
I’m torn because I want it on the go (switch), but 4K/60 on the X or PC will make it a tough choice.
these are my feelings as well.
I will say that with my past experiences with Dark Souls and the performance in a couple areas, I would take all the frame rate improvement I can get. Also you can't pause Dark Souls so idk if that's an ideal situation for gaming on the go
Orn and Smough can die in a fucking fire I can't wait to Praise the fucking sun after stepping on them again
ive only played BB, but what is the PvP aspect? all i did in BB was use helpers for bosses.
Souls games have an invasion feature where another player can come into your game and grief you.
That's the short of it
The long of it is that we as a community adhere to a level cap meta (DS was 120-130), create builds and meet at certain areas of the map to invade and be invaded where we will engage in duels. That's sort of the dark wraith honor dueling and it essentially turns souls into a tactical fighting game.
There's also the forest hunters which in a way is Dark Souls PVP at its finest. The Darkroot Forest has a covenant called the forest hunters and essentially what that equals to is you wear a ring and if someone comes into that forest without being in the covenant, you are summoned to invade them to protect the forest. It's also known as Gankroot Forest and many other things because people tend to set up shop in the forest with a friend and wait to tag team invaders. It really makes you be creative with your build because the things that work great in a duel don't necessarily help as much in the forest against 2-3 players at a time.
Back to the original explanation, prepare for grief. Dark Souls 3 and Bloodborne players have no idea what it's like to be griefed like DS. You will find MANY people who find joy in going through the entire game at level 11, obtaining the best gear and armor their stats allow, farming for shards, chunks and slabs to max out all that gear, just so they can sit in undead burg and make life miserable for people who just started the game. It's absolutely beautiful reading through hate mail in that situation.
Huh? The bosses in DS3 are much more difficult... The AI is outright stupid in DS1 by comparison.
After playing DS2 and then going back to O&S I had a much easier time. Got a lot better at handling multiple enemy boss fights.
The combat is much slower and clunky in comparison. Also poise actually works. You can put on heavy armor and a shield and just tank everything. There are more overpowered items and varied builds than in the games you played. Also it is much less linear.
youve got two fights in DS3 that are on the level of o&s, 4 kings, artorias, magnus and kalameet. TNK and Midir. I would say both of those are harder than any of the ones in DS but the rest of the DS3 bosses are extremely easy to master.
I mean... the fact that you can just put on havel's and chug 20 estus for most of those makes it much easier. You can't do that in DS3. Also you leave out Friede which due to sheer length of the fight is harder than anything in DS1 imo. Gael is a harder, updated version of Artorias. I think you are looking back on it with some nostalgia. Those fights may have seemed harder because you had never played these games but go back and play them again after the newer games. It's no comparison.
Also, the only time 4 kings is hard is if your damage is shit.
Yeah I left out Friede, Friede was tough. Gael wasn't that bad. I've played one in the past year and it stil holds up with the fights I mentioned. You also get 15 estus that are stronger to use in the tough fights in DS3. Also, going full Havel to fight bosses in DS is definitely a thing but it's not something I'm gonna do ever. I need dem rolls, son
I'm just saying it's not even an option in 3. Heavy armor is op in 1. Yeah you're not super skilled for using it but then again if you are that skilled the bosses shouldn't be that hard. In 3 you get 15 estus if you find the shards. In 1 you get 10 and then 20 just for beating an easy boss later in the game. You do have the fire keeper souls but if you collect them the estus is about as powerful as 3 to me. I don't know man I still think you are just viewing DS1 through rose tinted glasses. It's a great game but it was made years ago. The developers have even made comments about making the bosses harder in the later games because players had improved with experience. The AI is so much more advanced.
And you definitely can't say anything about bloodborne. It's got some of the hardest bosses in the whole series, multiple of them just in the DLC.
I'm aware that Im being nostalgic here. I fully expect that some people are gonna have issues with the mechanics after playing something as refined as Bloodborne and DS3. I just think at its core it's the best game in the Souls series and something I'm interested to see people experience for the first time. I also think that the bosses do hold up. i think that what you're not taking into consideration is that with the improved mechanics, the bosses in DS3 also become a bit easier to deal with. Mid roll in DS3 is equivalent to fast roll in DS damn near and it's much easier to attain while wearing better defensive armor. I'm a fan of poise for what it brings to the PVP side of things but I do admit that it does add a bit of an easy mode to boss encounters.
I'll meet in the middle here. Take poise out of the equation in DS1 and the majority of the boss encounters are more difficult than the ones in DS3. Final answer
Yeah Bloodborne is an entirely different ballgame. There's shit in the chalice dungeons that are just insane and every boss in the dlc is epic. It's my favorite PVE experience outta from
See I'd still disagree because the AI is so bad. It would make things a lot harder but I just don't see it. The time so many of the bosses give you to step back and heal or get to their back is a lot easier than 3. Shields were better in 1 too. Backstabs and parries are a lot easier in 1.
Everyone seems to have different experiences with bosses and view the difficulty of them at least slightly different. That's about all I can think of because I've never seen anyone claim what you are claiming about boss difficulty across the souls games.
We're not talking about mobs here, are we? You can barely parry any boss in DS, I'm p sure just gwyn, and you can't backstab any. If we're talking mobs then you win all day. DS3 mobs are infinitely more difficult than DS mobs. Big if we're talking bosses, there's a legit discussion
Well Gwyn is the last boss of the game. The fact that you can just parry him to death is a big deal.
Blue Smelter Demon in DS2 OP
You can parry p much every boss in DS3
A few of them.
Well half of vanilla and roughly half of the dlcs including all the final encounters. Kind of a big deal that you can just parry all those final bosses to death
The Gundyrs, Pontiff and who else?
Crystal Sage, Prince Lothric, Abyss watchers, deacons, Irythyll Knights..idk man it's just so cheap that it depresses me. Wish there was actual poise instead of all these parryable bosses.
toughest boss in dark souls 3 are those two dogs guarding the fap ring. Can't believe I forgot about those guys
Crystal Sage spawns multiple enemies and casts magic. You can't rely on parrying. I don't parry much in DS3 so I didn't even know about Lorian but apparently he can't be riposted so. Deacons is a bunch of mobs so again can't rely on parrying, abyss watchers I believe is just the first phase. You're being a bit disingenuous here.
Yeah man, it's been a joke for a few posts now. I really figured at some point you'd jump on in but you seem to be a pretty serious fella.
Regardless of whatever you or I think of the bosses from game to game I'm excited to go back to lordran. Maybe you and I can meet up in the township and settle this dispute with fisticuffs
I'm a PVE guy myself. Not much for PVP.
Tasse my blaed! Tasse it you devul!
Only played B.B., like I said; it whooped my ass. Such a great feeling finally defeating a boss.