Detroit Lions: Alexa, play “Last Resort” by Papa Roach

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  1. smeegsgreen

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    McShay bashed him
     
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  2. DeToxRox

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    Good day today
     
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  3. DetroitNole

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    Guy we took in the 5th is the 2nd highest rated guy on ESPN pre draft ranking that we took.
     
  4. ~ taylor ~

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    It Quinn takes Amani Oruwariye in the 2nd and Jahlani Tavai in the 5th, it probably seems like a better draft.
     
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  5. ~ taylor ~

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    NFL.com had him graded way higher, too.
     
  6. smeegsgreen

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    4/5 picks are defense. What’s Quinn smoking if he thinks we’ll score with that offense?
     
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  7. Vinegar Strokes

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    Hockenson will solve all the offensive problems
     
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  8. MG2

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    Kind of similar to last year when the Walker pick was really weird in round 3, and then we ended up getting Crosby in the 5th after some had him as high as the second round.
     
  9. MG2

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    Stafford needs to play a lot better this year, but the offense went into the tank when they basically lost Kerryon, Tate and Jones at the same time. At that point, the talent was abysmal at the skill positions and no offense was going to work unless Stafford became Brady. I don't like the depth at RB or WR at the moment, but I think the offense is decent if they stay relatively healthy.
     
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  10. ~ taylor ~

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    If Hockenson is as good as they think, and he adjusts quickly, I think the WR depth benefits. But I have no idea who is backing up Marvin and Kenny on the outside, and RB is scary, especially when considering Kerryon's injury history.
     
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  11. MG2

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    I've thought RB is a big need all offseason. I don't think CJ Anderson and Zenner are enough.

    I think Hockenson (if he can do it right away, as you said) helps Kerryon and Riddick in the passing game as much or more than the WRs, too. Riddick was smothered underneath last year because we had no threat at TE and LBs could just sit on him.
     
  12. Vinegar Strokes

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    Let’s sign Tyreke Hill after he is cut by the Chiefs
     
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  13. MG2

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    It's funny when you get to this part of the draft to hear analysts talk about prospects and say completely different things. Louis Riddick compared Oruwariye to Greedy and said his coverage skills are top 2 rounds but doesn't want any part of being physical or playing the run. Daniel Jeremiah says he has some issues with athleticism in coverage, but is physical and will play the run.
     
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  14. Vinegar Strokes

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    So what you’re saying is nobody knows shit. At least there is film on this guy. Must not have cameras in Hawaii
     
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  15. ~ taylor ~

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    I agree on Riddick, although I think part of the problem there was usage. He was rarely in the game where he wasn't getting the ball. Maybe with good TEs his usage will improve as well as how much attention he gets.
     
  16. MG2

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    Another weird thing about our draft is we got a better pick (#186) to move back 6 spots in round 4 than we gave up (#204) to move up 7 spots in round 3.
     
  17. Vinegar Strokes

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    Crazy
     
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  18. MG2

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    Just took WR Travis Fulgham with our first pick in round 6
     
  19. DetroitNole

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    Lions picks in order of pre draft ESPN rankings

    Rd 1, Rd 6, Rd 5, Rd 2, Rd 3, Rd 4
     
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  21. ~ taylor ~

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    And RB Ty Johnson 2 picks later. Bob Quinn in here?
     
  22. DeToxRox

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    I think Johnson is Theo’s replacement
     
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  23. Vinegar Strokes

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    Where is Theo going?
     
  24. DeToxRox

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    I know nothing of Fulgham other than he’s a deep threat
     
  25. DeToxRox

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    He’s been rumored to be a roster casualty all offseason.
     
  26. ~ taylor ~

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    I like the Johnson pick. I doubt Fulgham ever plays, but that's why it's the 6th round. He's a warm body on the outside.
     
  27. ~ taylor ~

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    So who plays RG?
     
  28. clemsontyger04

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    Congrats on Bryant. Lots of value with him because of that pec injury. Does a good job setting the edge but is smart and rarely was caught out of position
     
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  29. MG2

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    If there's a Theo replacement, it's Kerryon being a 3 down back this year, IMO. Johnson replacing Riddick on the roster would probably be as a 3rd or 4th RB who plays on all the special teams (and possibly returns kicks) and they think that's a more valuable use of that roster spot. I know very little about him, but I don't think he'd jump in as the 3rd down back this year.
     
  30. MG2

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    They signed a Oday Aboushi as a possible stop gap for a year. Also have Kenny Wiggins from last year Tyrell Crosby possibly moving there from tackle. They have options. Crosby is probably the only hope of any of them being more than below average.
     
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  31. DeToxRox

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    Fulgham had 8 for 188 in ODU’s win over VT for whatever that’s worth
     
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  32. ~ taylor ~

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    I would like it if Aboushi steps up. Not drafting a tackle makes me think they don't want to move Crosby. There are veteran guards still available in FA, too, so I'm not worried aboutit. RGs are a dime a dozen.
     
  33. DeToxRox

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    Kids clearly a stud

     
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  34. MG2

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    I'm down on Ty Johnson because he's from Maryland and Mel Kiper didn't do a pick breakdown of him. I'm assuming that means he's not good because Mel always homers it up for Maryland players.
     
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  35. Vinegar Strokes

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    Tyree Jackson got some bad advice.
     
  36. Constant

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    Lol Nauta
     
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  37. DeToxRox

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    I wouldn’t be shocked if we took him to double as a FB
     
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  38. MG2

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    I'd like to give Jesse James back now. Nauta is pretty good based on what I watched at UGA
     
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  39. DeToxRox

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    So here are the guys I would consider roster locks headed into the season:

    QB (1): Stafford
    RB (1): K. Johnson
    WR (2): Golladay, Jones
    TE (2): Hockenson, James
    OT (3): Decker, Wagner, Crosby
    OG (1): Ragnow
    C (1): Glasgow

    DE (4): Flowers, Hand, Okarawa, Bryant
    DT (2): Harrison, Robinson
    LB (3): Davis, Kennard, Tavai
    DB (4): Slay, Coleman, Agnew, Oruwkariye
    S (3): Diggs, Walker, Harris

    ST (2): Prater, Muhlbach

    So that’s 29 of 53 spots locked up.

    Guys I would think are near locks are:

    RB: T. Johnson
    WR: Amendola
    OG: Aboushi, Wiggins
    LB: C. Jones
    S: T. Wilson

    Anyone else I could easily see not making the team
     
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  40. Vinegar Strokes

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    Sam Martin. Fuck that guy
     
  41. MG2

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    I don't think T. Johnson is a near lock, and I don't see any way Amendola gets cut if he's healthy going into the season.
     
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  42. DeToxRox

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    Both are fair.

    We also gave a 145k guarantee to UDFA OT from SDSU. Apparently he’s a great athlete but the film is lacking.
     
  43. DeToxRox

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  44. MG2

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    That's a nice "get"
     
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  45. Vinegar Strokes

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    He went undrafted.
     
  46. Heesu

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    Why would anyone choose the lions?
     
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  47. ~ taylor ~

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    The competition for a roster spot is terrible.
     
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  48. Vinegar Strokes

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    They like losing.
     
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