Detroit Pistons thread: With the exchange rate that’s a win streak

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  1. DetroitNole

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    Think there is anyway we could convince Blake to decline his player option now to agree to cut him so he can go sign with a winner this year?

    Wishful thinking, I know
     
  2. buckwild

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    I think a buy out is a likely end for him with the Pistons.
     
  3. MG2

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    This season would be going kind of perfectly right now if Hayes doesn't get hurt and could be out there doing Delon Wright things where he's good one day and mediocre the next. I think without Rose and Blake he'd be doing better right now than he was before he got hurt.

    I can't imagine we trade a piece to move Blake. That doesn't help us, and the S&T we did with Houston ties up our 1st round pick well into the future. I think we're stuck with him the next 1.5 years, unfortunately. I don't think they buy him out because you're throwing away any chance of using that big expiring deal if something came around the corner.
     
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  4. Vinegar Strokes

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    Or if we drafted Haliburton over Hayes
     
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  5. DeToxRox

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    Curious fit
     
  6. ~ taylor ~

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    What's up with a winning streak? Need to trade Wright and Ellington immediately.
     
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  7. Vinegar Strokes

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    We are gonna fuck around enough to end up with 6 pick. We could be top 5 team in East if we ended up in top 2 of draft
     
  8. buckwild

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  9. DeToxRox

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    I never for one second imagined Blake would embrace playing in Detroit, but the guy has been a total pro since he arrived. Really hope he winds up on a contender.
     
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  10. DetroitNole

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    If Blake wants to move on its simple, tell him to decline his player option and we will release him now
     
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  11. DeToxRox

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    The game tomorrow vs the Spurs has been postponed due to contact tracing within the Spurs.
     
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  12. MG2

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    Especially since pretty much everyone in the media has been trying to get him to talk shit about it since the deal. Sucks that he got hurt and this is what he is now, but we've seen a lot of players who chose to be here and had clout who have acted far, far worse here when shit went bad (fuck you, Rip Hamilton).
     
  13. buckwild

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  15. DetroitNole

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    Since the Pistons took Grant Hill in 1994, build me a 10 man rotation of Pistons 1st rd picks, keeping in mind that includes 12 top 15 and 8 top 10 picks

    PG : Stuckey, Knight
    SG : KCP, Kennard
    SF : Prince, Bey?
    PF : Monroe, Maxiell
    C : Drummond, Ratliff

    Does that team win 20 games in a NBA season?

    So that's awesome for Bey, but I mean look at how we've drafted...
     
  16. MG2

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    Starting 5 of 2nd rounders might be better...

    Dinwiddie
    Brown
    Middleton
    Amir Johnson
    Okur
     
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  17. DeToxRox

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  19. MG2

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    I understand why he says that, but honestly I don't care as long as we're not stretching it out over the next 3-5 years. We can eat all of next year's money as long as we're taking it all next year, as far as I'm concerned.
     
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  20. DeToxRox

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    I kind of agree here. Plus, why not buy yourself goodwill as an organization around the league?
     
  21. DeToxRox

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  22. Vinegar Strokes

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    This should help the tank

     
  23. MG2

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    Dennis Smith went from playing in the G League bubble to getting 30+ minutes as a starting PG here in a couple weeks. Good for him.
     
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  24. Brocktoon

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    That timeline still gives him a couple weeks to show he's back healthy before the trade deadline
     
  25. MG2

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    This is a pretty big stretch for Saben Lee, I would think. He's nowhere near ready for this, but I think he needs to at least show some flashes during this stretch because he's going to get some minutes.
     
  26. DeToxRox

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    Saben Lee had 21 tonight
     
  27. Randy Bobandy

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    It was a good ride.
     
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  28. RalfBully

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    Wtf is the latest with Blake? Just going to pay his ass to not play the rest of the year because he sucks? Don’t want to eat his contract and he won’t work something out with us?
     
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  29. ~ taylor ~

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    I think he'll sit until we work out something with him where we pay him as much of his remaining contract as he can get, then release him. No reason for him to be playing right now anyway - he's bad and not getting better - so he's probably asking for a lot.
     
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  30. RalfBully

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    So the hope is that the fans/media turns on him while he sits out and collects money? I'm all for paying his ass to sit if there are no better options. I dont want to release his ass and watch him become good somewhere else unless the Pistons get some legit cash break.
     
  31. DeToxRox

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    It seems like negotiations for a buyout were going on before he was shut down. My guess is we don’t do anything until the deadline, just to see if a miracle happens and someone wants to deal for him.
     
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  32. buckwild

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    That man's body is donezo...I don't think you have to worry about that last part. You have as many dunks in an NBA game this season as he does.
     
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  33. Vinegar Strokes

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    Lee is better than Hayes
     
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  34. DeToxRox

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    Fun game tonight. All the rookies have looked great.
     
  35. buckwild

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    I was surprised to see this was Grants first missed game of the year. Good for him.
     
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  36. Vinegar Strokes

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    Rookies played well, and we lost. Win win

    Hopefully we trade Ellington and Wright.

    And Blake griffin is a bitch. I hope we refuse to cut his ass, unless he takes a massive buyout.
     
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  37. ~ taylor ~

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    I'm pretty sure he'll take a massive buyout.
     
  38. Vinegar Strokes

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    yeah I worded that wrong. I would hope we get like a 15% discount. He wants to win, so he’s gotta take a little too
     
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  39. DeToxRox

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    So how do we view our offseason now? So far it seems like we have way more hits than misses, but Hayes is probably the most important move we made and that one is TBD. It’s hard to argue with what we did, though the value for certain guys (like Plumlee) is still a bit too rich for me. He’s not an anchor though.
     
  40. Tug

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    I love it. I think Plumlee had been a great value. This team is fun to watch and we’re a better franchise when dealing with reclamation projects rather than high priced stars
     
  41. MG2

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    Draft
    Hayes - Played 7 games and was not in position to succeed. His awful performance is noted, but I'm not panicking at all (yet)
    Stewart - Steep price to get him. He's definitely a solid rotation big. Not sure how much more.
    Bey - Been pretty much what everyone expected and should be a long term asset
    Lee - Shocked at his recent performance, but Casey seems to love him and that's important because that was sneaky expensive to get him

    Free Agents
    Grant - Been really good, although coming back to earth a bit. Looks like a strong signing
    Plumlee - Probably played as well as we could hope, and seems like a good fit with the young roster. Wish it was 2 years instead of 3
    Jackson - Very good upside play, and should be more productive without Blake
    Okafor - I don't get it, but he's hurt so whatever. Wish we would have just kept Tony Bradley
    Ellington - Really good, important signing that has opened the floor a bit for the kids and Grant to succeed

    Trades
    Wright - Much better in a PG role, and takes some of the sting out of the price of that Houston deal
    Musa - cut before camp and that trade looks incredibly dumb in hindsight
    McGruder - whatever

    Sirvydis (not sure where he belongs) - I don't know what he's here

    Overall, it's hard to complain about the players they brought in. That Bruce Brown deal looks really dumb, though, and I'll never really understand the Christian Wood stuff. We ultimately traded a protected future 1 + Wood for Wright and Stewart, and because of it had to eat multiple contracts to fit in the likes of Grant and Plumlee. That will never make sense to me, and I think Stewart ultimately has to become at least a mid-tier starting center to getting that deal above "inexcusable" territory.
     
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  42. DetroitIrish3

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  43. DeToxRox

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    I wish I hadn’t watched any of Oklahoma State today because it made me sad knowing we won’t win the lottery to land Cunningham.
     
  44. Vinegar Strokes

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    We are a top 4 team in the East if we get him.
     
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  45. DeToxRox

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    I realized today that I hadn’t heard anything about Luke Kennard this season, so I did a quick Twitter search and this was the first hit:



    guess we did right to get out when we did
     
  46. DeToxRox

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    At least he’s honest

     
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  47. DetroitIrish3

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    Oh yeah, there was never a reason to keep him around. Solid role player but wouldn’t make sense to toss money at him during a rebuild at all.
     
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  48. DeToxRox

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    Smith Jr has 8-8-7 and Plumlee has 10-10-7 early in the 4th
     
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