Detroit Pistons thread: Anyone seen those tanks?

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  1. Brocktoon

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    if he can block shots and hit open 3's, Blake can rebound and provide muscle in the paint
     
  2. MG2

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    So much for that thought exercise

     
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  3. Brocktoon

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  4. DetroitIrish3

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    Why though?
     
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  5. DeToxRox

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    Beilein is going to coach Kevin Porter Jr. That will be fun.
     
  6. Constant

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    I kept watching past 15 for this??
     
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  7. smeegsgreen

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  8. Constant

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    Do we know when these picks are?
     
  9. MG2

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    2nd round picks are important as trade pieces. A lot of times, it gets you free stuff around the deadline that can be pretty useful. For the 30th pick, it's probably a good gamble in the long run.
     
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  10. smeegsgreen

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    Bunch of bullshit
     
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  11. DeToxRox

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    I forgot we had one second the next four years.
     
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    Twitter is pointing out that in 2022 HS kids can be drafted and the Cavs have three seconds in 2022. Should be a much deeper class if those are the picks we targeted.
     
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  13. smeegsgreen

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    This makes the trade more sensible then. Thanks SVG
     
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  14. Heesu

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    I, for one, welcome korleone young 2.0 to the pistons 2022-23 team.
     
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  17. MG2

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    I'm assuming they stash him this year so he can get a little bigger before coming over.
     
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  18. DeToxRox

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    I’m all for not having to stay up another half hour.
     
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  20. Constant

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    Did we deal the 45th in that trade?

    Edit: apparently so
     
  21. smeegsgreen

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    There goes the 2nd rounders
     
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  22. MG2

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    So we traded the 30th pick for 4 second rounders, and then traded 3 second rounders for the 37th pick? That's some weird asset management, if Stein's tweet is accurate.
     
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  24. MG2

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    This makes no sense to me. Why wouldn't this be official until July 6? There's no contractual reason it can't be announced before then.

     
  25. MG2

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    This makes no fucking sense to me. The Warriors bought a pick yesterday in the same range for $1.3M and nothing else. We had to give up 2 future 2s to move up 8 spots?

     
  26. MG2

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    So, just trying to piece this thing together...

    We started out with picks 15 and 45.

    Last night, we traded Leuer's expiring to Milwaukee for Snell's 2/$23M + #30.

    We picked La Resistance at #15.

    We traded #30 to Cleveland for 4 future second round picks

    We traded #45 along with 2 of the 2nd round picks acquired from Cleveland to move up to #37 to draft Sirvydis.

    So, if my math is correct, we traded Leuer's expiring and #45 in what amounts to a three-team trade for Snell's 2/$23M, the ability to move up 8 spots to select Sirvydis, and 2 future 2nd round picks (allegedly in 2023 and 24).

    That seems like shitty value for taking on the extra year of Snell's deal, IMO.
     
  27. BleedinGreen

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    Snell’s deal sucks but he’s gonna start next year and is a decent expiring the year after.
     
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  28. Brocktoon

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    I feel like none of the moves over the last day make sense now that everything is settled. They add a 1st rounder supposedly to help fill multiple roster holes. But in the end still ended up with 2 picks, one of which is a draft and stash. I like the first pick but overall these kind of seem like the moves of a team trying to tank.

    Maybe they really like Snell and think he's a starting SF.
     
  29. MG2

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    He's going to start next season because they don't have better options. If they didn't trade for Snell's contract, they could have gone out and tried to sign a better option with one of their exceptions. Since Snell is under contract for 2 years, that doesn't really make sense anymore, and they're likely now looking for a vet to compete with Svi for the minimum or around there in a back up role. And, given the needs of cap crunched teams like the Lakers, Warriors and Rockets for those types of players, we're going to be picking from the shitty end of that group of players.
     
  30. MG2

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    Assuming they stash Sirvydis as has been reported (although the ESPN Euro guy says he's willing to come over now), the current roster (with rough position marks just for organizational purposes) looks like...

    PG - Jackson, Brown
    SG - Kennard, Galloway, Thomas
    SF - Snell, Svi, GRIII
    PF - Griffin, Sekou
    C - Drummond, Maker

    GRIII is going to have his option declined, but it hasn't happened officially yet so he's technically still on the roster.

    FAs - Ish, Calderon, Ellington, Zaza
     
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  31. smeegsgreen

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    Screams 9th seed IMO
     
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  32. MG2

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    Just in terms of filling out the roster, they need a legit back-up PG, at least one big capable of filling in if there's an injury, and a wing capable of playing 10-15 minutes if necessary. I believe we're roughly $9M under the tax currently (and I believe that assumes GR3's release).
     
  33. MG2

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  34. smeegsgreen

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    Didn’t somebody post they were going to grab him? good insight.
     
  35. MG2

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  36. MG2

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    So, the final tally appears to be....

    Leuer and #45 for Snell, Sirvydis, Bone and a 2023 2nd rounder from Cleveland
     
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  37. bro

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    Jordan Bone is the fucking man. Hope he pans out
     
  38. Brocktoon

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    its looks pretty bad when you realize they turned #30 & 45 into #37, 57 and a distant 2nd
     
  39. MG2

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    I'm having a hard time trying to figure out what I should think of this.

    On the one hand, after the Cleveland trade, it seems like a really odd use of resources. Definitely seems like they overpaid to jump from 45 to 37.

    On the other hand, if they had simply drafted Sirvydis at 30, Bone at 45, and randomly been gifted a 2023 2nd round pick somewhere along the way, we'd probably look at it differently. We'd probably be disappointed in the pick at 30 being a bit of a reach, but the trade is essentially the same. Maybe that's me trying to rationalize it, but the Bone trade at the end kind of made it a bit easier to do that than only coming away with 2 players.
     
  40. smeegsgreen

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    Fuck it let’s go
     
  41. MG2

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    Gores had a good night

     
  42. smeegsgreen

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    Luxury tax king is proud
     
  43. Vinegar Strokes

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    Fuck Gores and whoever the GM is.

    Does Gores get to pocket the $5mil
     
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  44. Lipp

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    I read they gave 2MM back to the Sixers for Bone tho. These owners out here throwing around millions like they’re singles at the strip club.
     
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    So it seems like they didn't really trade the '24 second round pick for Bone:

    The odds Cleveland is one of the 5 best teams in '24 are very low.
     
  46. Lipp

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    And Cleveland likely didn’t really trade away the pick to Detroit. It was all a farce and was really about $$.
     
  47. DeToxRox

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    I think he could find a spot as a 3 and D guy one day
     
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  48. MG2

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  49. smeegsgreen

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    What’s Valenti’s take on the draft?
     
  50. FourClover01

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    My guess it had a negative undertone.