Detroit Pistons thread: The Motor Cade has arrived

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  1. DetroitNole

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    In a league where so many teams don't even try to win, I don't think this team as is is a bottom 5 team. Any even decent signings I think they should be pushing for play in
     
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  2. Vinegar Strokes

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    ESPN has us finishing with 2nd worst record

     
  3. DetroitIrish3

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    And they’d have us drafting a PG?!
     
  4. DetroitNole

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    The 2023 draft order is based on ESPN projections prior to draft night
     
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  5. MG2

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    I've spent the day talking myself into some of the following list of players in various different deals...

    Harrison Barnes (1 year left on deal in SAC)
    Lauri Markkanen (2+ years left on deal in CLE)
    Gordon Hayward (2 years left on deal in CHA)
    PJ Washington (1+ year left on deal in CHA)
    Kentavious Caldwell-Pope (1 year left on deal in WSH)
    Otto Porter (FA)
    Jae Crowder (1 year left on deal in PHX)
    Royce O'Neale (1+ year left on deal in Utah)

    All of those guys are stop gaps waiting for the right fit, but some of them we could probably get for nothing (KCP, maybe Crowder and O'Neale). I wonder about Cleveland and Markkanen with that, too, as that fit has always been odd. Hayward is kind of a different conversation.

    I'd still probably make my first call on July 1 to Charlotte and tell them I'm going to offer Bridges the max and see what the response is. I don't really see a reason not to. But those are some of the back-up plans I can think of. I'd also be calling around the league about what I might get for Stewart. Would a team like SA give us one of their young wings for him? Or Washington?
     
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  6. Randy Bobandy

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    I love this. My needle is already at midnight. Adding big contracts right now would only move it in the wrong direction.
     
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  7. MG2

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    Going to be awkward when they have to change Duren's number after Drummond's jersey retirement ceremony in 2028.
     
  8. Vinegar Strokes

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    unless we are signing guys to one year deals, those contracts are likely going to be for multiple years, and may prevent us from offering the max in say 2023 to a guy we want.
     
  9. Randy Bobandy

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    If theyre smaller/shorter deals they should be easy to move.
     
  10. ~ taylor ~

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    Without a major FA this is a lottery team next year and probably in the top 7 for odds. Not enough shooters in the backcourt of Bey is the 4, no starting 4 on the roster if Bey is a 3. Ivey isn't an immediate winning 2 and there is a hole at 4/3 that needs to be filled. Be a fun team that loses a lot of games.
     
  11. Randy Bobandy

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    I've grown to love Luka but watching him dodge balls has me dying

     
  12. Randy Bobandy

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    Old man Clifford gonna drive him into our arms.
     
  13. MG2

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    Edwards proposed these three possible trades for salary to get assets. How many of these (if any?) would you do? I'm out on the Miami deal. I'd do the Knicks deal depending on the first rounder we got. Charlotte is tough because that's good value, but Washington is a RFA next year and I wonder if that's the asset I'd want back for Hayward.

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  14. MG2

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    For some reason I'm also in on the idea of KCP from Washington. Don't think we'd get an asset back for him, but he's owed $14M+ this year and it doesn't sound like Washington is all that excited to pay it. If they're giving him away, I'd take the deal for the vet wing who can play now and punt cap space to next year, if that's how it played out.
     
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  15. Tug

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    I’d only do the NY trade
     
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  16. Thrillhouse77

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    I think I would do all three. Miami is the biggest risk but he is theoretically perfect for our team
     
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  17. DetroitNole

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    I'm not sure I'd do any
     
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  18. DetroitNole

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    I'd do the Knick trade. The Heat sitting Duncan in the playoffs have me uninterested in 3 years of him.

    I don't know anything about PJ Washington
     
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  20. Tug

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    Fournier was 4th in the league in 3pm and is a better all around player than Robinson. His third year is club option. I’d take him for our first back + a 2nd. Make him available to a contender that needs shooting at the deadline
     
  21. ~ taylor ~

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    I was confusing Evan Fornier and Adonal Foyle.

    What an indictment of how bad the Piston have been.
     
  22. MG2

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    Washington kind of seems like the idealized version of what we hope Beef Stew can be going forward. He's a 4 who can play some 5 who defends, rebounds, passes and shoots well. He'd be a really good fit here. We would just have to pay him in a year.

    Hayward actually fits pretty well, too. He's just expensive as hell and is hurt all the time.
     
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  23. hoss2183

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    What’s the holdup on formally announcing the Grant trade?
     
  24. Tug

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    The league calendar I believe
     
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  25. MG2

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  26. ~ taylor ~

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    I prefer Pickett to Buddy Boeheim.

    I prefer the rotted corpse of Buddy Guy to Buddy Boeheim.
     
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  27. ~ taylor ~

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    Just looked and Buddy Guy is perfectly alive.
     
  28. Brocktoon

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    Swap out Kemba for Fouriner and downgrade the pick to a 2nd rounder. Wonder if the Hawks would be looking to dump Gallinari's contract to free up money to pursue Ayton, he seems like a good vet to add and only on a 1 year deal.
     
  29. hoss2183

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    Buddy Guy has been 80 for 20 years it seems
     
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  30. hoss2183

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    Makes sense. I guess my question really is why do they need to wait? Is it possible something/somebody else is involved?
     
  31. MG2

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    Technically, the league year starts on July 1. The offseason opens for real on July 5 or 6, usually (that's when FAs who agree to deals can actually sign them). For whatever reason, the way the $$ works just means any active player contract that gets dealt before then almost always has to wait for the new league year to start. There was some chatter this might be different because Grant was traded into Portland's trade exception, but apparently it's not.
     
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  32. DetroitNole

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    Moves can't be official until new season starts which is July 1 I think. So literally no move is official yet
     
  33. hoss2183

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    The Melton trade to Philly is official which involved picks on draft night. Not trying to be a dick. I just get the weird feeling there is something else going on.
     
  34. Vinegar Strokes

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    bro MG2 is a know it all, and is never wrong. Stop questioning him.
     
  35. DetroitNole

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    I mean they've already traded the pick they got for Grant.
     
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  36. Vinegar Strokes

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    Luka gonna be a huge loss. Guy was a gamer.
     
  37. DetroitNole

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    Couldn't question his work ethic, but with a coach who is defensive in nature, he was never going to stick here. Also don't see how he was going to get many minutes next year
     
  38. Vinegar Strokes

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    which is why the Duncan Robinson trade proposal by Edwards III is awful.
     
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  39. Brocktoon

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    didn't see this one coming

     
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  40. MG2

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    2 future second rounders is not what I was hoping for to take on that kind of salary, even if it's only for a year. Would have been nice to at least get our future 1 back now that NY owns it.
     
  41. ~ taylor ~

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    5th team for Noel. 6th after we waive and stretch
     
  42. MG2

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    Also wonder if Noel could be moving elsewhere, given how many centers we currently have on the roster. Don't think he's necessarily a negative asset.
     
  43. ~ taylor ~

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    Assume they'll both be closer to 31 than 40.
     
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  44. Brocktoon

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    Knicks have 4 firsts next year, can't believe he wasn't able to get one of those in return
     
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  45. DetroitNole

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    As with Weaver recently wouldn't shock me if there is a follow up trade to this one
     
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