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  1. The Banks

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    ***Checks AHL standings***

    Griffins second in the western conference in points.

    Stupid AHL format.
     
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  2. Vinegar Strokes

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    They have played 10 more games than the whole pacific division
     
  3. The Banks

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  4. DeToxRox

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    Well the Griffs made it. Hopefully they figure it out.
     
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  5. The Banks

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    More games for Zadina

    :like:
     
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  6. DetroitNole

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    Filip Larsson got an ELC.
     
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  7. DeToxRox

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    This is most pleasing
     
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  8. The Banks

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    Had nothing to prove at the collegiate level.
     
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  9. MG2

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    Does that mean he's going to GR next year? And if yes, we're probably looking at 2 years (possibly more) until he's in Detroit?
     
  10. The Banks

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    Depends on the goalie situation in GR, but yes most likely. If he's the clear backup in GR he might get sent to the ECHL for a stint to get more games.
     
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  11. DetroitNole

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    I would guess Rybar gets re-signed and he and Larsson are your goalies in GR next year, Sateri is gone. Fulcher will be in Toledo / be the 3rd string in GR.
     
  12. DetroitNole

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    Looking at their stats, it appears Rybar got a lot less support than Sateri did this year in GR.

    Rybar had a 2.49 GAA and .908 save percentage, which is better than Sateri's 2.84 GAA and .899 Save percentage. However Rybar was 16-16-5 while Sateri was 22-11-5
     
  13. DetroitNole

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    I wonder what the wings will do with Veleno. If I'm not mistaken he cant go to the AHL next year until January when he turns 20. He has nothing left to do in the qmjhl. Not sure he is far enough along to make the Wings though.
     
  14. DeToxRox

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    He can play in GR next season, as he was granted exceptional status as a 15 year old. You just need to play four years in the CHL to be AHL eligible; not a specific age.
     
  15. DetroitNole

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    I am having trouble finding the exact rule, hope you are right. However this article says its age 20

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    The NHL and CHL have an agreement in place that stipulates if a player drafted from one of the three leagues that make up the CHL doesn’t join his NHL club at the beginning of a season, that he must return to the major junior team he was selected from. The AHL is not an option for CHL players until they turn 20.

    When a player’s CHL season ends, they are allowed to join an AHL club on an amateur tryout contract for the remainder of that AHL season. But when the next season begins, the player’s options fall back to the NHL or CHL if he’s under 20.
     
  16. DetroitNole

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  17. DeToxRox

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    I hope Rasmussen can play C in GR next season. I think he needs to be given the opportunity.

    Svech was given a year back of waiver exemption for not playing this year, so he I’ll for sure start in GR. It’s good for him considering he missed a full season.

    I could see something like:

    Hirose - Veleno - Puempel
    Smith - Rasmussen - Svech
     
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  18. DeToxRox

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  19. DetroitNole

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    Do you have the wings signing 3 free agent forwards, or do you have guys like Abby, Helm, Ffk and de la rose playing on the 3rd line? We have about 6 top 9 forwards going into next year (Bert, Larkin, Mantha, AA, Zadina, Frans). I have to think Ras or Hirose going to be on that 3rd line.
     
  20. DeToxRox

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    I could see our first rounder make the team (if it’s a guy like Dach or Cozens). I then think some overpriced vets will get top 9 spots, because that’s what we do.
     
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  21. DetroitNole

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    I could see our forwards next year working out like

    Bertuzzi-Larkin-Mantha
    (FA)-AA-Zadina
    Hirose-Frans-Frk
    Abdelkader-Glendenning-Helm
    de la Rose, Ehn


    Puempel-Rasmussen-Terry
    Elson-Veleno-Svechnikov
    Smith-Turgeon-Kuffner
    Elson-Holmstrom-Pearson
    Pope, Gallant

    Can't see making room for 3 Free Agents, unless we can dump some of the dead weight. All of those forwards would be under contract (Except Frk, Homstrom and Turgeon as RFA, and Gallant who hasn't got a ELC yet). Hirose and Ras could switch spots or both could beat out Frk. FA signing could be a center and we move AA back to wing too. I expect, like with Zadina, our rookie starts in College, CHL or Russia or will be a defense man.
     
  22. DeToxRox

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    AA, Mantha and Bert will play for Canada at the World Championships. That’s really cool.
     
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  25. Manny

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    I always hate looking at our cap table and seeing Abby and Helm's hits. It hurts my soul.
     
  26. DetroitNole

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    Abby has to be a top 5 worst contract in hockey if not the worst. We are paying him 2nd line money to be one of the worst forwards in the NHL
     
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  27. DeToxRox

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  28. DetroitNole

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    I'm coming around on Cozens and Dach. I think there will be someone I like available at 6. I think Podkolzin, Dach, Cozens, Zegras, Byram and Turcotte would all be picks I'd be ok with. Still think Zegras or Byram are my top 2 choices. Think Zegras playmaking on a line with Zadina and AA would be a great 2nd line. And hope Ras and Veleno develop into real solid 3rd line guys. Byram is obvious because the need for high end defense prospects.
     
  29. The Banks

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    Veleno’s floor is 3C, I think his upside is a really good 2C. With Larkin as 1C, which I think we’d all agree with at this point. So the question is, do we think Ras can be a 3C?

    We obviously need help on D.

    Wing looks to be pretty set for the top 6 with Mantha, Zadina, AA, Bertuzzi. If we got Podko, who does that make a 3rd line winger out of those 5?

    So all things equal I think we go with Byram if available, then one of the centers if not.

    A question for if picking a center is if we got with the highest ceiling but highest risk or lowest ceiling or lowest risk, or somewhere in the middle. There’s prospects that fit each of those projections at center.
     
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  30. DeToxRox

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    I still prefer Zegras because he has creativity we don’t have anywhere on the roster. Put him on the second like one day with Zadina and AA. You have Larkin, Veleno and Glendening to provide defense. Let those guys just go for it.
     
  31. DetroitNole

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    If we draft one of the centers, think we move Ras to the wing and Veleno could be a top level 3rd line center. If we take Podko, I think they try and keep AA at center until Veleno can take over on the 2nd line or we sign a short term older vet to fill in. I expect Ras, Veleno and our draft pick this year if a forward wont start in lineup next year so we may need a stop gap forward to bridge to those guys.

    I agree defense is more important and Byram is my #1 choice, but I'm thinking he is gone when we pick.
     
  32. The Banks

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    What's everyone's expectation of Zadina assuming he gets top 6 winger minutes next year?
     
  33. DeToxRox

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    Something like 20/20
     
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  34. DetroitNole

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    15-20 goals 35-45 points. There will be some growing pains but I think that's a safe guess for him.
     
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  38. Vinegar Strokes

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    Lmao they’re still keeping Kenny arround.
     
  39. Manny

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    Let's fucking go
     
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  40. DeToxRox

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  41. DeToxRox

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  42. DeToxRox

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    I bet Illitch and Vinik had an agreement in place well in advance that allowed the team to talk to Yzerman during the season. I assume the agreement entailed nothing being announced until the Lightning season ended.
     
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  43. DeToxRox

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  45. DetroitNole

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    Wings exploiting this Yzerman news, just got a call from ticket office to put a season ticket deposit down. Voicemail started "in case you didnt hear, Steve Yzerman will be announced at a press conference today "
     
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  46. DetroitNole

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    Love the "Ken Holland has been promoted" line. Apparently he signed an extension as well to stay with the team.
     
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  47. Manny

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    Lmao they said in the press conference that Kenny has been 'promoted'
     
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  48. Vinegar Strokes

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    Hahaha
     
  49. Vinegar Strokes

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    As long as Holland has no say in organizational moves, I’m good with it. He was a garbage GM post salary cap era.
     
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  50. DeToxRox

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    Steve for sure implied that the rebuild isn’t close to being over.