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  1. DetroitNole

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    Yes

    Raymond-Larkin-Marner
    Cat-Kasper-Kane
    Copp-Danielson-Lombardi
    Soderblom Compher-Ras/Mazur

    Doesn't look so awful. Probably only way we add a player of his quality, which we desperately need, is a free agency over pay
     
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  2. Vinegar Strokes

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    Can we afford him? I think if we sign him, you move Larkin
     
  3. The Banks

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    I don’t believe we have a hard cap. Would be incredibly self defeating. Larkin’s cap hit projects to 9.95M for the 2025-2026 cap.
     
  4. DetroitNole

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    Yes, only luck wings caught was timing of their extensions for their top players. They look good long term cap wise
     
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  5. DeToxRox

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    Marner at almost any cost is a no brainer. Need to sign Gavrikov as well at this point.
     
  6. Manny

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    Imagine the April in the D fun we could be having if these losers weren't so shitty?

    Someone should ask Steve what does it feel like to be the worst of the big 4 franchises in the city?
     
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  7. DeToxRox

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    I am very annoyed Yzerman hasn’t scheduled his year end PC yet. He usually does one within two weeks of the season ending, so it probably won’t be until this time next week. I just want to hear how he answers Larkin’s criticism from last week.
     
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  8. Lip

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    you’re quite the drama queen on this one
     
  9. DeToxRox

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    On everything but this one is especially good because no one ever calls Yzerman to task for anything. His captain doing it is great.
     
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    PK was horrendous so hopefully they are dropping whomever was responsible for that

     
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  11. DeToxRox

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    I’m guessing Westlund, the goalie coach, and Varady, the third assistant, are gone.
     
  12. DeToxRox

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  13. The Banks

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    22-0 now. They are up 2-0 in their semifinal series with games 3 and 4 on Tuesday/Wednesday.
     
  14. Vinegar Strokes

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    he’ll never play in NHL. Who cares
     
  15. DeToxRox

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    Yzerman PC at 2 today. I just want to see how he handles the Larkin comments and if Steve gets annoyed again like he has the last few PCs. I don’t expect anything of note but I’m glad he’s going to at least be asked the question (though in fairness it’ll probably be up to Bultman or Shapiro to ask)
     
  16. DeToxRox

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    Yzerman starting this presser defending the inactivity at the TDL. Wasn’t even asked a question yet.
     
  17. DeToxRox

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    Yzerman is testy today, it’s actually kind of nice to see.
     
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  19. Manny

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    Very strange.
     
  20. DetroitNole

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    I know some people were worried about us paying someone significantly more than Larkin

     
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  21. DayDomination

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    Sign Marner to stupid money or make a trade for a top line winger
    Sign Garikov
    Buyout Holl and Tarastinko
    Move Rasmussen or Compher
     
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  22. DetroitNole

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    Cossa getting pulled in the first playoff game the same day Yzerman said he didn't think he was ready for next year in the NHL sure isn't going to do much to change his mind
     
  23. DetroitNole

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    Isaac Howars worth going and getting?
     
  24. DeToxRox

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    Depends on the cost. I don’t think he’s worth the 11th pick in this draft but I’d give up our 2 for him. The complexity is the market for him is likely very small because if he doesn’t get traded to a team he approves he won’t sign. If Howard only has one team in mind the value becomes far less.
     
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  25. Manny

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    So we're picking 13, fucking NHL. Can't wait for another 200 foot Forward with no juice destined for middle 6.
     
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    High ceiling/low floor winger, imo. Just make sure Hakan gets the pick
     
  27. Vinegar Strokes

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    Cossa sucks ass. Can’t even start for the Griffins in playoffs.

    Danielson is also a bum. Team is pathetic.
     
  28. Manny

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    MBN with a goal and assist, first two points.

    GR still down 2-4.
     
  29. Vinegar Strokes

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    what about Danielson?
     
  30. Manny

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    Headed to GRR, flying back home to live in his parents basement.
     
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  31. Manny

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    MBN, Danielson, Lombardi all with goals. Danielson even got in a fight. They were up 4-1 in the 3rd, gave up 3 in a row and now in OT. Elimination game.
     
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  32. Vinegar Strokes

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    Cossa blows. What an awful draft pick
     
  33. Manny

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    Lost in double OT 5-4. Swept 3-0. Smh.
     
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  34. DeToxRox

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    Kasper is the only NHL’er playing for Austria at the World’s and he’s just absolutely crushing it against very good players. It’s early in his career but I’ll be honest, I’m starting to think he might end up as a legitimate 65-70 point 1C.
     
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  35. DeToxRox

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    So I went down the rabbit hole of what I could see Yzerman doing this offseason. This is probably the most extreme version of what he might realistically consider. It’s not something I endorse but I think it could track with his thinking. As a note, I used Evolving Hockey’s contract projections for all transactions.

    First, the current roster housekeeping:


    Johansson: 1.75 x 2

    Soderblom: 1.1 x 2

    Kane: 1 x 3 (I can’t added bonuses on PuckPedia but i imagine more bonuses that carry over to next season)

    Tarasenko gets bought out

    DET trades: Gustafson
    SEA trades: 2025 6th

    DET trades: Holl, 2025 3rd
    CHI trades: Future Considerations

    Now the ugly part.

    Ekblad: 7.7 x 7

    Bennett: 7.6 x 7

    Lindgren: 4.6 x 4

    Frederic: 2.8 x 3

    Merrill: 1.25 x 1

    The roster:

    Bennett - Larkin - DeBrincat
    Frederic - Kasper - Raymond
    Danielson - Copp - Kane
    Soderblom - Compher - Rasmussen
    Watson

    Lindgren - Seider
    Edvinsson - Ekblad
    Johansson - Chiarot
    Merrill

    Talbot
    Mrazek

    Lindgren and Ekblad are guys we have been rumored to like for a while, so it makes sense we pursue them in an effort to reshape our D (I don’t agree this helps that much).

    Bennett and Frederic add the hard to play against elements Yzerman mentioned he wants.

    I would think this kind of offseason puts us in the playoffs but never gets us beyond being a WC barring a few young guys ascending to superstardom.

    I want to believe we pursue Marner but I don’t think Marner will come to Detroit. This feels more likely than the Marner scenario.
     
  36. The Banks

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    All three of the top FA deals are immediately fireable. Ekblad is broke and a middle pairing guy at best now. Lindgren’s wheel’s have completely fallen off and is now a bottom pairing guy.

    Don’t pay guys for what they’ve done, pay them for what they’re going to do.

    Soderblom should fire his agent if he can only get 1.1
     
  37. DeToxRox

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    Agree with all of this but Yzerman has cap space and a seeming desire to improve. It feels like he’s going to make some desperate moves.

    I plan on doing one of these for what I’d like to see but it’s hard to be realistic and not hate myself.
     
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  38. DeToxRox

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    Comtois is a better version of Watson. I’d take him over Motte. Not much else to say.
     
  39. Vinegar Strokes

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    Has Yzerman hit on a FA outside of Kane? I wouldn’t trust him to sign any guy for more than 3 years.