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  1. DetroitNole

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    Damn Leddy is only 30? Feel like he's been around for longer than that
     
  2. DetroitNole

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    Veteran LHD who is solid to pair with Seider his rookie year, I get the idea behind it. I really don't think it's awful.
     
  3. hoss2183

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    I don’t get that one. The first time I read it I thought we were getting the 2nd round pick
     
  4. DetroitNole

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    Leddy is a better player than Panik

    Real solid LHD, on last year of contract. Can play with Seider to help develop him and move him at the deadline and probably get a 2nd back
     
  5. Vinegar Strokes

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    Not a fan of giving up a 2nd rounder. Our defenseman suck, so Leddy is definitely an upgrade.

    guess this means we don’t protect Choblowski in the expansion draft?
     
  6. DeToxRox

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    I am curious if another move is coming now to add another D we can protect. I get the sense Yzerman is fine exposing all these guys but Hronek and Leddy.
     
  7. Manny

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    Debatable, his advanced stats are terrible.
     
  8. DeToxRox

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    My hunch is Yzerman gets a 2 back before the expansion lists are due tomorrow. If he does, that helps make this deal more palatable. It’s still a bad deal though.
     
  9. DeToxRox

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    I won’t be shocked if we protect Stetcher and let Cholowski go to Seattle. In fact, I’m going to say that happens. Just call it a hunch.

    I think Merrill is returning on a two year deal, this setting up our top seven. I also think Glendening return s now that Panik is gone. Bernier probably comes back in net as well.

    For now I’ll say we hold onto Bert, but I won’t be shocked if he’s dealt either.

    With all that said, here is how I see the roster shaking out opening night:

    Bert - Larkin - Fabbri
    Vrana - Veleno - Zadina
    Namestakov - Rasmussen - Erne
    Smith - Glendening - UFA (Ryan?)

    Nielsen/Pearson

    Leddy/Seider
    Merrill/Hronek
    DeKeyser/Stetcher
    Lindstrom

    Bernier
    Greiss
     
  10. Vinegar Strokes

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    Why would Seattle want Cholowski?
     
  11. DeToxRox

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    Inexpensive player who might have some upside.
     
  12. Vinegar Strokes

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    hed be a good addition for whatever AHL team they are
     
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  13. DeToxRox

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  14. Vinegar Strokes

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    Anything leaking yet about who we left unprotected ?
     
  15. Lip

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    Your dick
     
  16. DeToxRox

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  17. DeToxRox

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    I assume we protected Smith if Namestikov is unprotected
     
  18. Vinegar Strokes

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    and Choblowski?
     
  19. DeToxRox

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    He or Lindstrom
     
  20. ~ taylor ~

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    Why protect Smith? He seems like a generic bottom of the roster forward.
     
  21. Vinegar Strokes

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    So probably Cholowski we lose. No big deal

     
  22. DeToxRox

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    Honestly I think they are keeping him because the team was pushed around a bit last year, and they need someone to defend Mo when he inevitably causes a shit storm. He’s a perfectly adequate 4th liner.
     
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  23. DeToxRox

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    I think it’s Stetcher.
     
  24. DetroitNole

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    There a lot of good goalies available, but if I was Seattle I'd at least consider Bernier from our list. He is on a reasonable contract and has played real well for us
     
  25. MG2

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    Bernier isn't protected because he's a UFA
     
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  26. DetroitNole

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    Duh, for some reason I thought he had a year left. Disregard
     
  27. DeToxRox

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    Bobby Margarita’s final list

    1. Power
    2. Beniers
    3. Edvinsson
    4. Eklund
    4. McTavish
    6. Guenther
    7. Clarke
    8. Hughes
    9. Johnson
    10. Lucius
    11. Sillinger
    12. Wallstedt
    13. Coronato
    14. Lysell
    15. Cossa
    16. Othmann
    17. Svechkov
    18. Rosen
    19. Bolduc
    20. Bourgault


    His is based on a scout consensus so his list is a great indicator of what to expect
     
  28. Manny

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    If that's what happens I'd take which ever they liked better between Clarke and Hughes.
     
  29. DeToxRox

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    Edvinsson is so intriguing but you basically need him to unlock Seider’s level of offense in his d+1 season. Striking oil twice with two young D making that kind of leap just seems so unlikely, but man he’s intriguing. I doubt he makes it to six though, so it’s irrelevant.
     
  30. hoss2183

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    Who we going to take #6?
     
  31. DeToxRox

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    I am going to guess Eklund, Edvinsson or McTavish.
     
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  32. spartanchuck

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    Want Elkund. Don’t want Kent Johnson
     
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  33. DeToxRox

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    I get it with Johnson, but I believe his offensive upside is the most dynamic. I just don’t know if his pace translates to the pros. I am fine if we gamble on that happening though.
     
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  34. hoss2183

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    Johnson doesn’t seem to fit the profile the Wings have targeted with top picks in years past.

    I’ll say one of Eklund or McTavish gets to 6 and that’s the pick.
     
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  35. DeToxRox

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    I am starting to think the top of the draft ends up forward heavy, which will present an interesting situation for us at 6. I’m going to guess we are the following:

    1. Power
    2. Beniers
    3. Eklund
    4. Edvinsson
    5. McTavish

    We would be sitting there with Hughes, Clarke, Johnson and Guenther available, but when you look at Yzerman’s history as a GM, I don’t think a guy like Hughes is someone he would pick. He doesn’t have any history of taking a guy with Hughes profile, which is to say someone with serious defensive concerns.

    With Clarke, we have a similar type player (offensive minded RHD with skating concerns) in Tuimisto. And then a guy like Guenther has shades of Brett Connelly to his game. Connelly was Yzerman’s first pick in Tampa and he was a huge bust.

    It makes me wonder if the first five picks go as I predicted above, would we reach on Svechkov on 6? I think Svechkov is more likely at 6 than a goalie fwiw. That’s just conjecture on my part though.
     
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  36. The Banks

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    Can totally see Wallstedt as well like he “reached” on Seider
     
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  38. DetroitNole

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    Kind of impressive that 29 of 30 teams expansion selections leaked hours ago and ours still has not
     
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  39. DeToxRox

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    It’s hilarious
     
  40. Manny

    Manny I love lamp.

    Allegedly Cholo
     
  41. buckwild

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  42. DetroitNole

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    Meh, probably worth a gamble for them based on our list. Stecher had some trade value, but im glad he is staying.

    We actually could have a competent defense next year if we sign another LHD in free agency.
     
  43. The Banks

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    How many mins do we think Seider plays next year?
     
  44. DetroitNole

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    A lot, wouldn't shock me if he's 1st line by end of year. Think he gets paired with Leddy, which I think is major reason we made that trade.

    Think we sign another LHD to pair 2nd line with Hronek. And Dekeyser-Stecher 3rd line until Dekeyser gets hurt
     
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  45. DeToxRox

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    Cale Makar played about 21 minutes a night as a rookie. He’s a good comparable since he too debuted in his D+3 season, and has a similar draft pedigree. The biggest difference is likely that the time Makar played on the PP will be what Mo spends on the PK.

    I think come years end he will be third on the team behind Leddy and Hronek.
     
  46. ~ taylor ~

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    I don't think either of Linstrom or Cholowski will ever amount to much, so whatever.
     
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  47. Vinegar Strokes

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    Great day for the Red Wings. Awful draft pick by Holland.
     
  48. DetroitNole

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    Haven't done nearly the investing into this draft I have past couple years. Probably a good thing so I won't be disappointed when we don't pick someone I fell in love with.
     
  49. DeToxRox

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    One piece of business done. Deal is fine.
     
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