Detroit Red Wings: Yzerplan B needed to undo this off-season

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  1. Lip

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    you understand we can draft players with those picks, right?
     
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  2. The Banks

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    I prefer organizational value over losing an asset for nothing.
     
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  3. The Banks

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    He’s just a negative nancy. Thinks Larkin isn’t a top 30 center in the league. Probably a Ken Holland fan.
     
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  4. RalfBully

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    Three more years before the rebuild starts.
     
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  5. Constant

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    Sure, and they'll all be BUSTS!
     
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  6. Vinegar Strokes

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    Wasn’t being sarcastic. I want us to trade all these picks for a quality NHL player and move Larkin to #2 C
     
  7. Vinegar Strokes

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    hate Ken Holland. And Larkin isn’t a #1 C on a Stanley cup contending team. I stand by that, and we will never win one with him as top line center.
     
  8. The Banks

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    There have been plenty of centers worse than Larkin on Stanley cup contending teams recently.

    Of course the odds of us winning a cup in the next 5-6 years is very low. We are in the middle of a rebuild.
     
  9. Vinegar Strokes

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    We have been rebuilding for 4 years already. You should get a job on the Pistons best. You’d fit right in.
     
  10. DetroitNole

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  11. DetroitNole

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    Think it's hard to compare Pistons and Wings rebuild and think they are similar. NBA starts 5 players and uses only 10 or so, NHL has 19 players every night. Pistons have gotten lottery luck, Wings have not. Wings have shown glimpses of being competitive, their young players have shown more promise and they have a lot of future assets now in terms of picks, prospects and cap space. It's not perfect, but I like most of what Yzerman has done and team is showing trends of moving forward
     
  12. DeToxRox

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    Erne called up and playing tonight over Vrana. Lalonde says it’s not asset protection, but because they want Erne on the PK. I believe him, but it doesn’t make it any less stupid.
     
  13. DetroitNole

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    He's prioritized ST consistently, gave same reason on Sundqvist over Zadina a week ago
     
  14. DeToxRox

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    I would be very interested in such an endeavor tbh
     
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  15. DeToxRox

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    I don’t anticipate this being Zadina, but also, I am not ready to outright discount the idea.
     
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  16. goblue31602

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    It would be unwise to discount the idea considering we're talking about Vancouver.
     
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  17. DetroitNole

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    Comments seem to think she's talking about Kotkaniemi
     
  18. DeToxRox

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    Vancouver bailing Carolina out of that deal seems about right.
     
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  19. DetroitNole

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    I forgot how many years he signed for, yikes, guessing that may be some wishful thinking in the comments
     
  20. Manny

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    Ras done for the year.
     
  21. ~ taylor ~

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    Tank is on.
     
  22. DeToxRox

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    We are very bad.
     
  23. DetroitNole

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    Team was pushing for playoffs a week ago, got beat up physically and then emotionally losing two staples of the team recently signifying the end of their playoff fight. I would be shocked if they didn't have a rough stretch continue at this point.
     
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  24. Woodrow

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    That Walman goal tonight was a thing of beauty. It's really too bad we spotted them three in the first 10 minutes before we finally woke up.
     
  25. DeToxRox

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    Just take a guess as to who Chiarot was paired with tonight.
     
  26. DeToxRox

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    So we still have a roster spot to fill, and the Griffins are in town this weekend. With the Wings headed to New York for a matinee tomorrow, I’m not entirely sure we call anyone up today, but if we do, I’m expecting it’ll be a D.
     
  27. DeToxRox

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    What I figured - a cap dump
     
  28. DeToxRox

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    So any deals we makes going forward today would likely mean bringing back a salary to make things work, as we can no longer retain salary. The exception would be if we trade Zadina, since he’s on a very cheap ELC.
     
  29. Manny

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    At least we've reached a conclusion, but what a fucking shame.
     
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  30. Lip

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    I guess paying Vrana 2.5 mil not to play is better than paying Lantha 5.7 mil this year and next? Maybe?
     
  31. DetroitNole

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    Also got a 1st and 2nd in that deal. Without vrana that would appear a good return still... but it sucks he didn't pan out
     
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  32. DetroitNole

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    Would be nice to give some young guys a shot second half of year but given the way this team operates I'm sure it just means more erne and Haag/Lindstrom 3rd pair
     
  33. DeToxRox

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  34. DeToxRox

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  35. Manny

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    Vrana/Mantha trade still netted us a 1st(Cossa), a 2nd this year, and led to getting Walman/Sundqvist/2nd rounder.

    We traded Panik (also acquired in the Vrana trade) and a 2nd for Leddy, which we later flipped into the above package.
     
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  36. DeToxRox

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  38. DetroitNole

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    Waiting to see what trade looks like to know for sure
     
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  40. DeToxRox

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    I assume it’s a small price to appease the locker room.
     
  41. DeToxRox

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  42. Vinegar Strokes

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  43. DeToxRox

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  44. DeToxRox

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  45. DetroitNole

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    Oesterle off IR

    Rest of season?
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    Walman-Seider
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    Oesterle
     
  46. Manny

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    Call Simon up for his 9 games.
     
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  47. Vinegar Strokes

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    Call up Cossa so I can declare him a bust
     
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  50. Manny

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