Detroit Tigers Thread: Avila Can Suck It

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  1. Vinegar Strokes

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    Take quality over quantity any day of the week.
     
  2. MG2

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    Definitely reasonable. The injury risk alone is where a position player is more ideal. I like watching ace pitchers as well, though, and I kind of feel as though we'd be less likely to fuck one of those guys up than a hitter at this point.

    I'm hoping we part ways with Gardenhire after this season and bring in someone with a current approach to hitting, with the hopes that would trickle down to the minors.
     
  3. MG2

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    Morosi is an idiot and we're not packaging all three guys together. Avila has all these teams running around to everyone in the media talking about how he's asking for way too much for each guy, and suddenly they're going to find common ground by combining all of them together?
     
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    Who are some candidates? I think Gardenhire is done at this point. We will probably suck even more next year, so maybe they hang on to him for one more year. He announces he will retire at end of season, and that’s the end of it.
     
  5. MG2

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    I have no clue and don't want to start looking into it until later because I don't want to get my hopes up.
     
  6. Vinegar Strokes

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    This doesn’t make any sense. Didn’t every team have opportunity to claim him.?

     
  7. smeegsgreen

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    Gardy getting fired would be a miracle but I get the sense him and Avila get buffet dinners together after games.
     
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  8. MG2

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    DFA means you have a certain period of time to trade him or send him through waivers. I'm going to assume he hasn't been sent through waivers yet.
     
  9. Vinegar Strokes

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    Johnny Kane went fishing with Gardy on Monday. Can’t wait to see the story.
     
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    Lol. Lugo is a AAAA player. We are moving our best defender, to make room for Dawel fucking Lugo

     
  11. smeegsgreen

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    This asshole needs to be fired. What a fucking joke. Candy is 3rd in DRS.
     
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  12. Joe Louis

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    I dont really mind it if we let Dixon DH and put Miggy on the 60 day IL ...
     
  13. Vinegar Strokes

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    Cabrera is 3 for 40 since the ASB. Has a .701 OPS on the season.
     
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  14. smeegsgreen

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    -.3 WAR too. He’s a piece of crap.

    After this season, 6 more years left of paying him $30M a year.

    Tigers have had some awful contracts in recent decade. Who has a worse contract than these idiots?
    Zimm
    Fielder
    Cabrera
     
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  15. Vinegar Strokes

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    V mart was pretty bad.
     
  16. Tug

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    Prince Fielder?
     
  17. Vinegar Strokes

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    Yeah, he listed that one. I think we are still paying that fat fuck
     
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    not quite as bad as those but the Verlander extension was pretty awful for the majority of it. He turned it around that last season but prior to that he was considered pretty untradeable. Making it worse was they chose that over re-signing Max.
     
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  19. Lip

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    This is a ridiculous take. He had one “bad” year.
     
  20. Brocktoon

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    ad is relative, he wasn't Zimmerman bad but was bad for highest paid pitcher in the league.

    His last 4 years with the Tigers went bad, injury plagued, good (but not equal to his peak years) and bad prior to his trade to the Astros.

    Go back and read through this thread, the bitching about his contract was significant
     
  21. spartanchuck

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    Fixed it
     
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  22. Vinegar Strokes

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    Surprisingly I did a search for Verlander, and my name, and I don’t think I bitched about him once.
     
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  23. MG2

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    Technically, Verlander's contract starting in 2015 (2013 and 14 were still under his previous deal). In terms of fWAR, he was worth...

    2015 (missed 2 months due to injury) - 3.1
    2016 - 5.3
    2017 - 4.1 overall, 3.1 in Detroit for 5 months
    2018 (because not sure why it would be excluded) - 6.7
    2019 (") - 3.1

    That contract was a really good one, and he was really good for the Tigers from mid-July through the end of August in 2017 with no reason to believe he was going to fall off a cliff if the trade didn't happen.
     
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  24. Constant

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    You probably just called him "Mr Upton" or "Washed-up Fuck" or something.
     
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  25. MG2

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    Mize went 6 and allowed 1 R, 4 H, 0 BB and struck out 6 in Erie. Hopefully that stretch is over and he's good again.
     
  26. smeegsgreen

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    Garrett hill went 7 IP 0 runs 2 hits 9 Ks in Lakeland too
     
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  27. Vinegar Strokes

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    He’s 23, and still in A ball lol
     
  28. Vinegar Strokes

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    Nick Quintana (2nd round pick) now has 13 errors in 30 games for West Michigan. Hitting .194
     
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  29. MG2

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    It's 100 plate appearances in one month as a pro after a long college season.
     
  30. smeegsgreen

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    Just sayin a good stat line - need the small victories
     
  31. Vinegar Strokes

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    What about the errors?
     
  32. Lip

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    Tired bro. Can’t you read?

    Maybe our 1B sucks too.
     
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  33. Vinegar Strokes

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    Great loss last night smeegsgreen . I was worried about that one


    Do you think we start Boyd tomorrow, or hold him out?
     
  34. MG2

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    Unless he has the yips, I'm not going to get worked up about defensive stats from one month for a guy everyone seems to agree has a history of being a good defender.
     
  35. Vinegar Strokes

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    Good point. He’s probably just tired.
     
  36. DeToxRox

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    Calis has Mize #2 in his mid-season top 100
     
  37. Vinegar Strokes

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    Yeah, what about Keith law though?
     
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    Good day today
     
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    Need Boyd to pitch a gem tomorrow. Assuming he pitches.
     
  40. Vinegar Strokes

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    We are 2-16 since Avila got his extension.
     
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  41. Vinegar Strokes

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    Alright guys, we are through 100 games. 30-70.

    How do we finish out the remaining 62? Keep in mind the Oakland game that is being resumed in the 7th, is a likely loss.

    I’d love to see us go 12-50, but I’m thinking we go 19-43, and finish with 49 wins.
     
  42. DeToxRox

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    We will have a decent rebound when we deal Nick. Team will play more freely but collapse all the same.
     
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    Answer the question bro.
     
  44. MG2

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  45. Vinegar Strokes

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    If we trade Boyd, this is most likely our rotation rest of season.

    Zimmermann
    Norris
    Alexander
    Edwin Jackson / Turnbull
    Verhagen / Soto / some other reject from AAA

    That’s a lot of losses.
     
  46. smeegsgreen

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    I don’t see more than 10 wins. This team is getting destroyed by a piss poor Seattle team. Gonna lose arguably our top 3 players in trades. It’ll take a lot of luck to get to 43 wins
     
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    Hope you’re right. We play the Royals, White Sox, Mariners, and Orioles all in the last two months.
     
  48. Vinegar Strokes

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    Quintana 0-4 , with 4 strikeouts, and another error tonight. Get this poor man some rest.
     
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